Changing allegiances

markesmith · 20-09-2012 07:53PM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Athlone Town tbh.

Give over. An Offaly man support Athlone town? What planet are you on?

The Internet · 20-09-2012 08:02PM

markesmith wrote: »

Give over. An Offaly man support Athlone town? What planet are you on?

Same could be said for an Irish person supporting Liverpool

Donnielighto · 20-09-2012 08:05PM

Tbh I used ti follow Galway united and go to some games but the whole loi lost pretty much all if its credibility over the years through poor financial controls centrally, messing around with new clubs and the like. Also used to play for a local team and go to senior matches, never felt anything though outside of my own team within the club. If a club is full of **** I don't care if they are next door I wont support them.

For those sayin you have to attend to have a real passion that's horsecock. I support Dublin more than mayo though I've been to many more mayo games. I support united more than clubs ive represented because I like what the club espouses.

I think that the top level of passion requires a personal involvement in a team, as in training, playing with or coaching the team. Other than that you are just a fan in an arbitrary location. Attending may have a better atmosphere but there are plenty of people that go to matches simply because they get tickets handy, doesn't make them more of a fan than the lad watching at home.

Passion also so builds over time through following and caring about a club. Though time can also lead to it waning depending on the person.

E&oe I'm on the phone

Donnielighto · 20-09-2012 08:06PM

The Internet wrote: »

markesmith wrote: »

Give over. An Offaly man support Athlone town? What planet are you on?

Same could be said for an Irish person supporting Liverpool

Ever heard of local rivalries?

SantryRed · 20-09-2012 08:07PM

Can't believe anyone can think that supporting through your tv or going a couple times a season is the same as having a season ticket and going to away games too. Not even close.

SantryRed · 20-09-2012 08:07PM

Donnielighto wrote: »

Ever heard of local rivalries?

Ever heard of the 1916 rising?

Bodhisopha · 20-09-2012 08:17PM

Donnielighto wrote: »

Ever heard of local rivalries?

What significant local rivalries exist between the towns of Offaly and Athlone that would render the notion of an Offaly man supporting his nearest football team ridiculous?

markesmith · 20-09-2012 08:21PM

The Internet wrote: »

Same could be said for an Irish person supporting Liverpool

Ah stop will you? Don't know what mood I'm in today, but it's not one for suffering this type of stuff.

I've supported Spurs since I was eight. Growing up in Athlone, I went 'De Town' games. When I moved to Offaly, most of the people I knew had no time for Athlone Town. Part parochialism, part GAA rivalry.

Anyway, I've been a Spurs fan for over 25 years now. Your pigeonholing of all Irish fans of the EPL is just not right, and the elitism shown on this forum by some posters is mental - there are far more important things in life than whether you support an English team.

I live in Galway now, and I'll go watch SD Galway of a Friday evening. But when I'm dead, the eulogy will probably mention something about my love of the Lilywhites. I'm not at all embarrassed of my love of Spurs, and if you hold opinions like the one above, then your opinion is of no matter to me.

markesmith · 20-09-2012 08:26PM

I mean, it's like getting stick for liking De Niro's work over Cillian Murphy.

"How can you like De Niro, sitting there watching Raging Bull on TV? Get yourself down the theatre and watch Cillian Murphy."

Bodhisopha · 20-09-2012 08:38PM

markesmith wrote: »

I mean, it's like getting stick for liking De Niro's work over Cillian Murphy.

"How can you like De Niro, sitting there watching Raging Bull on TV? Get yourself down the theatre and watch Cillian Murphy."

No, it's not like that at all. It would be very strange to hear any man declare his unconditional love for De Niro.

CSF · 20-09-2012 08:40PM

markesmith wrote: »

I mean, it's like getting stick for liking De Niro's work over Cillian Murphy.

"How can you like De Niro, sitting there watching Raging Bull on TV? Get yourself down the theatre and watch Cillian Murphy."

Its absolutely nothing like that, what are you talking about?

Paz-CCFC · 20-09-2012 08:43PM

A friend of mine supports/used to support Arsenal, but his interest in them has waned somewhat over the years. He started pretending to support Man City last year, as a wind up. He puts up on his Facebook from time to time of how he loves them, "we're gonna win the league" "MCFC champions" and all that.

He really managed to get to some people. People telling him "you can't do that", "it's not right" etc. Some of his work mates who support Man Utd refuse to speak to him over it.

A pretty successful wind up, it has to be said!

markesmith · 20-09-2012 08:43PM

CSF wrote: »

Its absolutely nothing like that, what are you talking about?

Well, why can't we do both? Why can't I go and watch Salthill Devon or Mervue United, and then go abroad and watch Spurs, and look for their results, and watch their games on TV?

I really don't see the issue here. It's this type of elitism that stops a lot of casual fans from engaging in the LOI. That and the often-appalling standard of football.

markesmith · 20-09-2012 08:44PM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

No, it's not like that at all. It would be very strange to hear any man declare his unconditional love for De Niro.

You haven't met some of my mates so :pac:

_blank_ · 20-09-2012 08:44PM

markesmith wrote: »

Well, why can't we do both? Why can't I go and watch Salthill Devon or Mervue United, and then go abroad and watch Spurs, and look for their results, and watch their games on TV?

I really don't see the issue here. It's this type of elitism that stops a lot of casual fans from engaging in the LOI. That and the often-appalling standard of football.

I reckon only a tiny, tiny % of LoI fans don't also watch other football.

Donnielighto · 20-09-2012 08:47PM

SantryRed wrote: »

Donnielighto wrote: »

Ever heard of local rivalries?

Ever heard of the 1916 rising?

Ya, lacked popular support, members lied to, lead by a paedo, I've heard of it. Were you there personally, do you dislike all English sporting teams due to the action of four generations ago (in the main)

The Internet · 20-09-2012 08:48PM

markesmith wrote: »

Ah stop will you? Don't know what mood I'm in today, but it's not one for suffering this type of stuff.

I've supported Spurs since I was eight. Growing up in Athlone, I went 'De Town' games. When I moved to Offaly, most of the people I knew had no time for Athlone Town. Part parochialism, part GAA rivalry.

Anyway, I've been a Spurs fan for over 25 years now. Your pigeonholing of all Irish fans of the EPL is just not right, and the elitism shown on this forum by some posters is mental - there are far more important things in life than whether you support an English team.

I live in Galway now, and I'll go watch SD Galway of a Friday evening. But when I'm dead, the eulogy will probably mention something about my love of the Lilywhites. I'm not at all embarrassed of my love of Spurs, and if you hold opinions like the one above, then your opinion is of no matter to me.

I'd like to point out to you that I did not say anything bad about people supporting English clubs all I did was use an extension of your logic and say that if people can't support a team in a different county I'm not sure how a different country is alright

Donnielighto · 20-09-2012 08:51PM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

markesmith wrote: »

I mean, it's like getting stick for liking De Niro's work over Cillian Murphy.

"How can you like De Niro, sitting there watching Raging Bull on TV? Get yourself down the theatre and watch Cillian Murphy."

No, it's not like that at all. It would be very strange to hear any man declare his unconditional love for De Niro.

It's odd to hear it for a sports team too.

CSF · 20-09-2012 08:53PM

markesmith wrote: »

Well, why can't we do both? Why can't I go and watch Salthill Devon or Mervue United, and then go abroad and watch Spurs, and look for their results, and watch their games on TV?

I really don't see the issue here. It's this type of elitism that stops a lot of casual fans from engaging in the LOI. That and the often-appalling standard of football.

Who said you can't do both? Doing both is great.

Bodhisopha · 20-09-2012 09:12PM

Donnielighto wrote: »

It's odd to hear it for a sports team too.

No argument from me there.

Bodhisopha · 20-09-2012 09:14PM

markesmith wrote: »

You haven't met some of my mates so :pac:

They need to stop feasting on past glories. De Niro has been rubbish for years now. I bet they're Liverpool fans.

The_Kew_Tour · 20-09-2012 09:16PM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

They need to stop feasting on past glories. De Niro has been rubbish for years now. I bet they're Liverpool fans.

Hibs fan

Gavin "shels" · 21-09-2012 12:02AM

Joekers wrote: »

Maybe more could have been done to entice the local kids into going to the game, they could have been given out free tickets for local school kids or the odd evening open training session where the kids can join in etc

It's grand for clubs like Shamrock Rovers, Pats and a few others who have players who are employed as "professional" players so there's free time, time to promote in schools and whatnot. In order to promote you need volunteers tbh, the handful of people behind Kilkenny probably didn't have a free second of time.

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

He puts up on his Facebook from time to time of how he loves them, "we're gonna win the league" "MCFC champions" and all that.

I know it was a wind up, but I F*CKING hate tools that do a running commentary of matches, "Go on Carrick", "Nani you muppet", along with many many others clogged my Newsfeed last night, like seriously!?

Corholio · 21-09-2012 12:33AM

cambo2008 wrote: »

Well it is shìte in fairness.
But sure what ya gonna do?We would all be jumping on a bandwagon if we all chose to support an LOI team.
Can't win either way with the self-righteous LOI brigade.

Why would anyone consider having a decent argument with you when you come out with ****e like that? There is such thing as a good argument, however when your that dismissive and obviously have no clue what your talking about regarding cow sheds, semi pro football etc etc then it's pointless.

Love how you mention a bandwagon in regards to LOI, probably the one thing LOI doesn't have is a 'bandwagon'. If there was, we'd have more in the gate and less pressure on clubs.

Will I Amnt · 21-09-2012 06:40AM

Corholio wrote: »

Why would anyone consider having a decent argument with you when you come out with ****e like that? There is such thing as a good argument, however when your that dismissive and obviously have no clue what your talking about regarding cow sheds, semi pro football etc etc then it's pointless.

Love how you mention a bandwagon in regards to LOI, probably the one thing LOI doesn't have is a 'bandwagon'. If there was, we'd have more in the gate and less pressure on clubs.

Some of my posts in this thread were childish and stupid.
If people are going to be assholes about something so am I in defending it.

bohsman · 21-09-2012 08:57AM

markesmith wrote: »

Well, why can't we do both? Why can't I go and watch Salthill Devon or Mervue United, and then go abroad and watch Spurs, and look for their results, and watch their games on TV?

I really don't see the issue here. It's this type of elitism that stops a lot of casual fans from engaging in the LOI. That and the often-appalling standard of football.

That's all that any LOI fan wants. Would be delighted to see everyone in Dalymount for a game on Friday and back in the club bars on Saturday and Sunday to watch the EPL and La Liga. Not sure what is so elitist about that.

brianregan09 · 21-09-2012 11:46AM

Was an aston villa fan up till i was about 12-13 , But stopped watching football for a few years , Was at me dads then one day and he had arsenal on the box , Wenger was in the job a couple of months i think , and i couldn't get over the style of there football ,made me fall in love with football all over again stil have a soft spot for villa but im a gooner now

LiamoSail · 21-09-2012 12:00PM

What ever about supporting domestic or foreign clubs, anyone comparing supporting a football club to liking certain music or films simply does not understand the concept of what it is to be a supporter, be that a season ticket holder at tolka park or an e-season ticket holder on www.liverpoolfc.net

niallo27 · 21-09-2012 03:58PM

This LOI vs EPL ****e that's comes up every few weeks is very annoying and it's ruining this forum.

srfc19 · 21-09-2012 07:21PM

Actually I now see the attraction of watching football on TV.
Sitting in front of the fire, with a can watching the Rovers match now, from where I live (kind of ironically) 200 metres from Old Trafford.

Would hate to be in Bray right now, I'd be cold and not have a beer in my hand.
Being able to watch games on TV every week and not actually have to go to live games is great.

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