Changing allegiances

Optimalprimerib

A friend of mine picks a different team every year. Bearing in mind, it is usually to follow the performance of an Irish player or manager so it is never a big name that you would have to worry about.

He is an Ireland fan I suppose, for his sins and worships given and keane which gave him a very varied diet of football teams.

holidaysong

I was in Tallaght last night to see my team Dundalk FC lose 7-0 to Shamrock Rovers. Did I think of changing clubs once during that 90 minutes? Did I f.....

Peppa Pig

holidaysong wrote: »

I was in Tallaght last night to see my team Dundalk FC lose 7-0 to Shamrock Rovers. Did I think of changing clubs once during that 90 minutes? Did I f.....

I also fail to see how you could change clubs because they are going through a bad patch.
What a lot of people do, though, is chuck it in until the good times come back - not real supporters, in my view.

Sanity_Saviour

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

I don't really understand the LOI gremlins tbh.

The beauty of football is that you can be a fan of literally whoever you want without any real reason, I support Chelsea because they are my team.

Bray Wanderers are about 5 minutes away but I have no intention of going to their games, because I support Chelsea not Bray.

Without any real reason?? Are you serious? This is a very depressing attitude. These are not the words of a football club's fan. I find that very disrespectful to supporters who have very good reasons for supporting their teams, be it locale, history or other... but without any real reason!?

Sorry, I have to sit down for a minute and try to get my head around this post...

Renn

Well most reasons are because someone's dad supported them, no? So that falls nicely into the 'without any real reason' category.

CSF

Renn wrote: »

Well most reasons are because someone's dad supported them, no? So that falls nicely into the 'without any real reason' category.

No I would wager the club being local is the most common reason. Perhaps not in Ireland, but worldwide by a mile.

Sanity_Saviour

CSF wrote: »

No I would wager the club being local is the most common reason. Perhaps not in Ireland, but worldwide by a mile.

That's outrageously wrong. In teams with strong leagues(Italy, Germany, England, Spain etc.) yes,the rest of the world no. You're trying to tell me more people support Shanghai than Man United in China?

Renn

Renn wrote: »

Well most reasons are because someone's dad supported them, no? So that falls nicely into the 'without any real reason' category.

So it's passed onto you and you grow up with it? Sounds like more of a reason (even though it can be a thin one at times, granted) to me more than just arbitrarily picking who you want because ''that's football''. I would suggest that that's anti-football, tbh. Football should be about communities and clubs pitting their best against each other. It should be about bragging rights over your neighbours just as much as winning. I find that's lost on a hell of a lot of people in this country when it comes to Fussball.

The_Kew_Tour

Omackeral wrote: »

So it's passed onto you and you grow up with it? Sounds like more of a reason (even though it can be a thin one at times, granted) to me more than just arbitrarily picking who you want because ''that's football''. I would suggest that that's anti-football, tbh. Football should be about communities and clubs pitting their best against each other. It should be about bragging rights over your neighbours just as much as winning. I find that's lost on a hell of a lot of people in this country when it comes to Fussball.

But most people dont support their local team. I am including LOI fans here.

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

But most people dont support their local team. I am including LOI fans here.

That's why it I said should.

The_Kew_Tour

Omackeral wrote: »

That's why it I said should.

Well thats fair enough then.

But there are plenty of negatives to that theory too and it dont need no scientist to figure it out.

u140acro3xs7dm

I supported Liverpool in the 80's, then arsenal for a year, started supporting utd in 92 for few years, followed Blackburn for a year then back to utd. Changed to Arsenal then when they won the double. After that i went back to Utd then Chelsea when they got money. Went back to Utd when they got better. Started following City in the last minute of last season. Right now i am a Chelsea fan although that could change next week.

Sanity_Saviour

Omackeral wrote: »

That's why it I said should.

There is no should. People can support whoever they want.

iregk

Peppa Pig wrote: »

I also fail to see how you could change clubs because they are going through a bad patch.
What a lot of people do, though, is chuck it in until the good times come back - not real supporters, in my view.

I do understand what you're saying but very often there can be more to it. It's often not as simple as black and white. Take Rovers for example. I've been supporting them since I was taken to my first game in milltown. Everyone knows the story there but there was a period through a combination of things such as a lot of work travel, family things and a sheer hatred for those in charge that were ruining the club. I like many stayed away for a couple of years. Now that's not to say I fully stayed away. I have been one of the few hundred standing in Tolka park. When the change of ownership happened the exile/protest ended and I gratefully returned.

Sanity_Saviour

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

There is no should. People can support whoever they want.

Well depends what you mean by support. Difference between looking out for a team and supporting one. People can follow whoever they want in the world, sure. But actively support, nah I don't think so. How's a chap from Shanghai (to use your earlier argument) gonna support Man United as much as a Mancunian?

Sanity_Saviour

Omackeral wrote: »

Well depends what you mean by support. Difference between looking out for a team and supporting one. People can follow whoever they want in the world, sure. But actively support, nah I don't think so. How's a chap from Shanghai (to use your earlier argument) gonna support Man United as much as a Mancunian?

By going to City games?

Zebra3

Ahmad Mammoth Jigsaw wrote: »

I supported Liverpool in the 80's, then arsenal for a year, started supporting utd in 92 for few years, followed Blackburn for a year then back to utd. Changed to Arsenal then when they won the double. After that i went back to Utd then Chelsea when they got money. Went back to Utd when they got better. Started following City in the last minute of last season. Right now i am a Chelsea fan although that could change next week.

What did you have against Leeds?

u140acro3xs7dm

Zebra3 wrote: »

What did you have against Leeds?

Dirty Leeds!

osarusan

Been a Limerick fan since I was about 10. My brother was a Liverpool fan, so I was a Man United fan, jus to be the opposite. Our father, who had been a Cork Celtic fan until their bitter end, said "f**k that" and took us off to Rathbane, where Limerick played at the time.

The speed with which we forgot our previous teams was amazing.

When I moved to Japan, I lived in Matsumoto for a year, and started supporting Matsumoto Yamaga FC, who then played in about the 5th tier of Japanese football - it was a regional league. After a year, I moved to Yokohama and started going to Yokohama FC games, who were at that time in J2 - the second and bottom tier of the national league.

For a time, I supported both, as there were a couple of divisions between them and the notion of Matsumoto ever making the J-League seemed remote in the extreme, but Matsumoto are now J2 also, and I had to choose - so I chose Yokohama FC, as they'd come to mean more to me over a few seasons of watching them.

So I guess I'm guilty of changing allegiance.

CSF

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

CSF wrote: »

No I would wager the club being local is the most common reason. Perhaps not in Ireland, but worldwide by a mile.

That's outrageously wrong. In teams with strong leagues(Italy, Germany, England, Spain etc.) yes,the rest of the world no. You're trying to tell me more people support Shanghai than Man United in China?

Perhaps not china or Africa but in Europe most definitely. As much countries like Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Greece as the superstar leagues you mentioned.

dan1895

osarusan wrote: »

Been a Limerick fan since I was about 10. My brother was a Liverpool fan, so I was a Man United fan, jus to be the opposite. Our father, who had been a Cork Celtic fan until their bitter end, said "f**k that" and took us off to Rathbane, where Limerick played at the time.

The speed with which we forgot our previous teams was amazing.

When I moved to Japan, I lived in Matsumoto for a year, and started supporting Matsumoto Yamaga FC, who then played in about the 5th tier of Japanese football - it was a regional league. After a year, I moved to Yokohama and started going to Yokohama FC games, who were at that time in J2 - the second and bottom tier of the national league.

For a time, I supported both, as there were a couple of divisions between them and the notion of Matsumoto ever making the J-League seemed remote in the extreme, but Matsumoto are now J2 also, and I had to choose - so I chose Yokohama FC, as they'd come to mean more to me over a few seasons of watching them.

So I guess I'm guilty of changing allegiance.

At least this makes sense and you went to the games, not just randomly picking teams.

KittyeeTrix

My brothers when in Primary school (20+ yrs ago) supported Man Utd/Villa....

In their late teens they both switched to follow City like my Dad who has been a Man City fan since the 50's...

Fr Tod Umptious

A guy in school years ago went from being a mod to a rocker pratcially over night