Rats Fed Lifetime of GM Corn Grow Horrifying Tumors, new study.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-09-2012 11:13AM #1

I wasn't too long ago when we had protests in this country concerning the Government permitting the cultivation GM spuds which is no different o poisoning the population with fluoride water. New studies by french scientists reveal large tumors have developed on rats that have been fed on GM corn.

God help our kids if Governments are continually allowed to fcuk about with nature.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/09/20/shocking-findings-in-new-gmo-study-rats-fed-lifetime-of-gm-corn-grow-horrifying-tumors/

eth0 · 20-09-2012 11:18AM

Fecking General Motors, first they can't make cars, now they can't even grow corn

Dravokivich · 20-09-2012 11:21AM

Compared to rats being fed Corn?

Promac · 20-09-2012 11:21AM

"god help our kids"...

Right.

Ziphius · 20-09-2012 11:24AM

Posted this in another thread
http://www.science20.com/science_20/blog/gm_maize_causes_tumors_rats_here_how_experts_responded-94259

It shows some of the criticism of this study comng from the scientific community.

Some include that this rat line has a tendencey to develop tumors anyway, no adequate control, and poor use of statistics.

Moreover the rats in the study were being fed Roundup pesticide in adition to the GM maize.

working fool · 20-09-2012 11:26AM

Any of them develop super powers ?

20-09-2012 11:26AM

Just don't feed GM corn to rats, problem solved.

FatherLen · 20-09-2012 11:26AM

yeah i hate corn too.

Boombastic · 20-09-2012 11:27AM

will they stop it? My guess is no but if a rat seems a bit sleepy after some cannibas-keep it banned. :pac:

20-09-2012 11:27AM

Ziphius wrote: »

Moreover the rats in the study were being fed Roundup pesticide in adition to the GM maize.

Sure what harm is a bit of Roundup on your cornflakes in the morning - it keeps you regular.

Ravenid · 20-09-2012 11:27AM

Being the devils advocate here the tests done were not anywhere close to accepted scientific standards.

The test pool was too small (Only 20 rats were tested).
The group who did the testing have refused to pass on their full testing results unless anyone who reads it signs a Non-Disclosure Agreement.
And worst of all the rats being used are known to develop the same Tumors naturally. World wide they are never used in any scientific test for this exact reason.

Run this test again with a normal test pool, with both the process and results open to everyone and using the standard testing procedures and I'd take it seriously.

MagicMarker · 20-09-2012 11:29AM

If it's posted by RTDHs then you know you can ignore it.

Ziphius · 20-09-2012 11:30AM

Ravenid wrote: »

Being the devils advocate here the tests done were not anywhere close to accepted scientific standards.

The test pool was too small (Only 20 rats were tested).
The group who did the testing have refused to pass on their full testing results unless anyone who reads it signs a Non-Disclosure Agreement.
And worst of all the rats being used are known to develop the same Tumors naturally. World wide they are never used in any scientific test for this exact reason.

Run this test again with a normal test pool, with both the process and results open to everyone and using the standard testing procedures and I'd take it seriously.

Indeed, additionally GM food has been in the food chain (human and animal) for decades without any deleterious effects.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-09-2012 11:30AM

Ziphius wrote: »

Posted this in another thread
http://www.science20.com/science_20/blog/gm_maize_causes_tumors_rats_here_how_experts_responded-94259

It shows some of the criticism of this study comng from the scientific community.

Some include that this rate line has a tendencey to develop tumors anyway, no adequate control, and poor use of statistics.

Moreover the rats in the study were being fed Roundup pesticide in adition to the GM maize.

The same scientific community that is telling us that drinking fluorinated water is good for our health. :rolleyes:

Boombastic · 20-09-2012 11:31AM

Ziphius wrote: »

Indeed, additionally GM food has been in the food chain (human and animal) for decades without any deleterious effects.

There have been a rise in the prevalence of many diseases over the decades, who's to say it's not the crap in the food? Cancer?

BlimpyBoy · 20-09-2012 11:35AM

The article has two links to Daily Mail articles on GM crops causing "horrific tumors".

That's all I needed to know.

Ziphius · 20-09-2012 11:36AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The same scientific community that is telling us that drinking fluorinated water is good for our health. :rolleyes:

Er... no, these would be plant and crop scientists. Did you read the link?
I imagine it is human physiologists or dental scientists who know the most about water fluoridation.

Incidentally, fluoridation of drinking water is perfectly safe and can benefit tooth mineralization.

Capt'n Midnight · 20-09-2012 11:36AM

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/09/20/shocking-findings-in-new-gmo-study-rats-fed-lifetime-of-gm-corn-grow-horrifying-tumors/

Eating genetically modified corn (GM corn) and consuming trace levels of Monsanto’s Roundup chemical fertilizer caused rats to develop horrifying tumors, widespread organ damage, and premature death.

OMG roundup herbicide is toxic :eek:

Link to original paper - if you want to do the paper trail
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512005637

If you want a CT theory
At present about half Monsato's income is from it's roundup line but the Chinese have been eating into that market because the patent for roundup has expired. If it were banned Monsato would be able to charge more for it's patented herbicides.

It's like CFC's being banned when the patents expired all over again.

Ziphius · 20-09-2012 11:38AM

Boombastic wrote: »

There have been a rise in the prevalence of many diseases over the decades, who's to say it's not the crap in the food? Cancer?

People are living longer and eating more. Obesity is a huge risk factor in most modern 'diseases of affluence' such as cancer and heart disease.

Boombastic · 20-09-2012 11:41AM

Ziphius wrote: »

People are living longer and eating more. Obesity is a huge risk factor in most modern 'iseases of affluence' such as cancer and heart disease.

Living longer from better, less damp living conditions and eradication of TB

Eating more - Obesity = overdosing on food = cancer and heart disease

I don't like my food being messed with by scientists.

Ziphius · 20-09-2012 11:44AM

Boombastic wrote: »

I don't like my food being messed with by scientists.

Probably not a whole lot left for you to eat in that case.

Genghiz Cohen · 20-09-2012 11:48AM

The title could just as easily read "Rat drank water grew horrifying tumors" for all the weight that study carries.

Shenshen · 20-09-2012 11:48AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I wasn't too long ago when we had protests in this country concerning the Government permitting the cultivation GM spuds which is no different o poisoning the population with fluoride water. New studies by french scientists reveal large tumors have developed on rats that have been fed on GM corn.

God help our kids if Governments are continually allowed to fcuk about with nature.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/09/20/shocking-findings-in-new-gmo-study-rats-fed-lifetime-of-gm-corn-grow-horrifying-tumors/

Lab rats?
You do know that there are no rats in captivity that will not develop cancer by the time they are about2 years old? They've been bred this way for generations by cancer researchers.
Even pet rats these days have this genetic makeup.

So forgive me for doubting this particular study.

BASHIR · 20-09-2012 11:53AM

Roundup something designed to kill plant life, well of course their gonna get bloody tumors.

admiralofthefleet · 20-09-2012 12:16PM

wait til run to da hills see's this thread

Run_to_da_hills · 20-09-2012 12:25PM

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

wait til run to da hills see's this thread

More here.

70% of females die early :eek:

http://naturalnews.com/037249_GMO_study_cancer_tumors_organ_damage.html

NewVision · 20-09-2012 12:26PM

Shenshen wrote: »

Lab rats?
You do know that there are no rats in captivity that will not develop cancer by the time they are about2 years old? They've been bred this way for generations by cancer researchers.
Even pet rats these days have this genetic makeup.

So forgive me for doubting this particular study.

The rats fed with that GM maize developed 5 times more cancer cases than a comparison group which got fed with ordinary maize. Such comparison groups are standard in every study.

Monsanto Roundup weedkiller and GM maize implicated in ‘shocking’ new cancer study

Now we know why the industry was testing only a maximum of 90 days!

France orders probe after rat study links GM corn, cancer

It's overdue to act!

YFlyer · 20-09-2012 12:27PM

BASHIR wrote: »

Roundup something designed to kill plant life, well of course their gonna get bloody tumors.

It's meant to kill rats?

20-09-2012 12:27PM

100% of rats die

:eek:

Elessar · 20-09-2012 12:28PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The same scientific community that is telling us that drinking fluorinated water is good for our health. :rolleyes:

Is that you, Jim Corr?

Ziphius · 20-09-2012 12:30PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

More here.

70% of females die early :eek:

http://naturalnews.com/037249_GMO_study_cancer_tumors_organ_damage.html

This is based on the same study.

25% of rats in the control group (i.e. not fed GM maize or pesticide) developed tumors.

Rats Fed Lifetime of GM Corn Grow Horrifying Tumors, new study.

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