Why did we all buy HD tvs?

partyatmygaff · 16-09-2012 07:26PM

Games look absolutely terrible on SDTV. It's even worse when you try and connect a laptop. The vast majority of movies and TV shows out now are available in HD in some form or another and the difference is big enough to warrant buying the TV.

squod · 16-09-2012 07:26PM

Watch a lot of car shows from the youtube on mine, all HD (or 720p). Some lad in iffey valley selling UPC with what looked like 360p @ 25fps on all his fancy Hi-Def LED TVs. Ejitry of the highest order.

16-09-2012 07:27PM

Biggins wrote: »

Its only myself but watching a Blu-ray in FULL HD, for me is such a pleasure at times.

The TV stations are not taking full advantage of full HD - I think (could be wrong) some are yet not able to.

They wont for years, it takes up too much bandwidth and would mean they would have to remove other channels to make space, on sky via sat anyway.

dave1982 · 16-09-2012 07:27PM

I blame Bertie Ahern, sure t'will be grand

Biggins · 16-09-2012 07:36PM

Jason Unsightly Karate wrote: »

They wont for years, it takes up too much bandwidth and would mean they would have to remove other channels to make space, on sky via sat anyway.

Cheers - I knew it was something in that line.
Couldn't remember the details.

If its just for supposed HD TV viewing, people are just better off with cheaper HD Ready TV's which show a maximum on screen of the 720 resolution.

My name is URL · 16-09-2012 07:45PM

Jason Unsightly Karate wrote: »

They wont for years, it takes up too much bandwidth and would mean they would have to remove other channels to make space, on sky via sat anyway.

They already can and do. RTE2 HD broadcasts in 1080i format

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_Two#RT.C3.89_Two_HD

Biggins · 16-09-2012 07:47PM

My name is URL wrote: »

They already can and do. RTE2 HD broadcasts in 1080i format

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_Two#RT.C3.89_Two_HD

Does RTE2 do it all the time?
(I ask 'cos I really don't know. I don't watch RTE)

Nodin · 16-09-2012 07:48PM

mikom wrote: »

Life is.

Not after a few scoops and durin the recovery....

My name is URL · 16-09-2012 07:50PM

Biggins wrote: »

Does RTE2 do it all the time?
(I ask 'cos I really don't know. I don't watch RTE)

Most sports and US TV series anyway. Some stuff is just upscaled to 1080 though

PogMoThoin · 16-09-2012 07:50PM

Biggins wrote: »

Does RTE2 do it all the time?
(I ask 'cos I really don't know. I don't watch RTE)

Outside broadcasts only, GAA, Champions league etc, nothing in HD from the studio as they're not ready yet

murpho999 · 16-09-2012 07:53PM

M cebee wrote: »

rte is in HD on saoirview

Only RTE 2 and not all programs.

16-09-2012 07:53PM

My name is URL wrote: »

They already can and do. RTE2 HD broadcasts in 1080i format

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_Two#RT.C3.89_Two_HD

Sky also broadcast in 1080i afaik, which for all intensive purposes is the same quality as 720p to the eye, full 1080p resolution broadcasts which biggins is referring to are many years away as the average viewer will never notice the difference.

RTE also seem to use a crazy low bitrate as the quality is rubbish compared to sky hd, ITV hd and BBC hd broadcasts. Bitrate is just as important than the resolution used.

PogMoThoin · 16-09-2012 07:55PM

Jason Unsightly Karate wrote: »

RTE also seem to use a crazy low bitrate as the quality is rubbish compared to sky hd, ITV hd and BBC hd broadcasts. Bitrate is just as important than the resolution used.

It's a much higher bitrate on satellite than on Saorview

Cantona's Collars · 16-09-2012 07:59PM

The real question here is,has anyone tried to mount an old style telly above their fireplace?

latenia · 16-09-2012 08:01PM

"Full HD" 1080p is just the latest step in electronics companies taking your cash by deliberately drip-feeding new tech to the market. First it was ordinary plasmas, then hd ready, then lcd, then back to plasma, then 1080p, then led, then 3d.
4k can already be bought for serious money-expect the mass-market versions to be released in the next 12 months. Apparently this will be indistinguishable from film so I may consider finally getting a projector then.

My name is URL · 16-09-2012 08:02PM

Jason Unsightly Karate wrote: »

Sky also broadcast in 1080i afaik, which for all intensive purposes is the same quality as 720p to the eye, full 1080p resolution broadcasts are many years away as the average viewer will never notice the difference.

RTE also seem to use a crazy low bitrate as the quality is rubbish compared to sky hd, ITV hd and BBC hd broadcasts. Bitrate is just as important than the resolution used.

I'm with you there.. the bit rate on Saorview could be a lot better. On the rare few instances where bit rates have been good, I could definitely notice an improvement compared to 720 broadcasts.

To the best of my knowledge, most HD TVs sold are only capable of achieving 1080i, so it probably wouldn't be worth broadcasting progressive formats at the moment. And as you say, it's difficult to even tell the difference between the two for most part. I notice it during football games however, on 1080i teles the 'ball trail' is far more apparent than on a 1080p TV.

UCDVet · 16-09-2012 08:05PM

I only pirate HD media....I figure you might as well get the best quality.

But it's a shame that there isn't a better alternative.

kneemos · 16-09-2012 08:09PM

zerks wrote: »

The real question here is,has anyone tried to mount an old style telly above their fireplace?

Tried to mount the wife over the coffee table if that counts.

Min · 16-09-2012 08:16PM

I bought a 3d LED tv because I have all the HD channels on Sky, not a millionaire but a good TV with the HD is my treat to myself.
There must be over 60 HD channels now.

The Idyll Race · 16-09-2012 08:18PM

delad wrote: »

Nothing is in HD!!! Given how long HD has been around I thought a few programs a week would be in HD but nope, nada. Unless you are a millionaire and can afford to have Sky HD.

For the rest of us, buying a HD tv was a complete fcuking waste of money.

Sick of it.

Screw $ky, get Saorview (RTE Two HD) and Freesat (BBC 1 HD and BBC HD, ITV1 HD, Channel 4 HD) and no messing. Simples.

dublinman1990 · 16-09-2012 08:21PM

Even TG4 and TV3 is going into HD very soon.

And still, the level of broadcast from both of them from a HDTV could be???????????

You can still think about that one for yourselves.

:D:D

partyatmygaff · 16-09-2012 08:35PM

latenia wrote: »

"Full HD" 1080p is just the latest step in electronics companies taking your cash by deliberately drip-feeding new tech to the market. First it was ordinary plasmas, then hd ready, then lcd, then back to plasma, then 1080p, then led, then 3d.
4k can already be bought for serious money-expect the mass-market versions to be released in the next 12 months. Apparently this will be indistinguishable from film so I may consider finally getting a projector then.

It's not so much a marketing plan to make as much money as possible as much as it is technological limitations. If someone had invented an affordable super-thin LED TV with excellent colours and excellent response to motion back when HD began to kick off, they would have dominated the market for years on end. It simply hasn't been possible up until now to provide Full HD TVs with excellent display that don't cost in excess of €5000.

Everyone wants to sell the most in their market segment. They start off by an innovation or new feature that no other product has. Once the market gets saturated with products containing that feature, certain manufacturers start reducing their price to increase their market share. Then the cycle repeats.

The Idyll Race · 16-09-2012 08:38PM

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Even TG4 and TV3 is going into HD very soon.

And still, the level of broadcast from both of them from a HDTV could be???????????

TV3 can't get even standard definition right, all overlit and washed out. No wonder everyone including Vincenzo and Martin the Wacky Weatherman wears so much slap they look like clowns.

Fúck knows what TV3 HD would look like, perhaps something like this:

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 16-09-2012 08:40PM

I got one because it was a reasonably cheap (€500) way of getting a nice big screen to watch shit on. I was quite taken with the motion interpolation too, which I know a lot of people hate, but I don't watch soap operas so it doesn't remind me of one.

3ndahalfof6 · 16-09-2012 08:43PM

I never bought one, my TV is 1976 and it is the dogs bollicks, I can turn the color way up and it is super vibrant, when I am watching nature shows the grass looks fantrippy green, the cows come in from the field just to lick the screen,

they swear it produces more milk.

squod · 16-09-2012 08:46PM

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

nature shows

''Nature shows''?

3ndahalfof6 · 16-09-2012 08:49PM

squod wrote: »

''Nature shows''?

What should I call them?

Chavways · 16-09-2012 08:49PM

Have you tried sniping in COD on an SDTV?

Reason number 1 right there

riclad · 16-09-2012 08:52PM

Most people have consoles,or laptops, its easy to connect in thru hdmi.OLD
sdtvs ,tend to have curved screens, and hdtvs take up less space,
the new digital, terrestials channels will look better on a hdtv.
i would,nt like to be watching dvds on an old crt, tube tv.
32 inch tvs are now quiet cheap, around 300 euros.
And now tvs will come with 3d modes,and apps, youtube, netflix ,etc built in , and you,ll be able to install new ones .
of course theres always ,early adopters that paid 2grand for a 32inch tv.
i always wait a few years for the price to fall,on the latest gadget.
A 32 INCH 720p tv would be fine for most people, unless you have a subscription for
sky movies.
i,d say most people dont know you can watch tv in hd without paying a sub to sky.
they have a hdtv connected to a skybox thru a scart cable, ,or they have a nonhd skybox.

pippip · 16-09-2012 08:54PM

Even when programs and sports are in 720 compared to the standard channel version there is no comparison.

P.S. I find sound to be a huge difference, which i never realised before getting it, watching sport its like the crowd are in the room.

Why did we all buy HD tvs?

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