Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

A Dub in Glasgo · 13-09-2012 06:09PM

Away for a few days and we still have the schzio Rangers owner with his pleading 'We are Rangers... we are not Rangers.... we are Rangers... we are not..'

There's only 2 Charlie Greens, 2 Charlie Greens..

lubo_moravcik · 13-09-2012 07:21PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Away for a few days and we still have the schzio Rangers owner with his pleading 'We are Rangers... we are not Rangers.... we are Rangers... we are not..'

There's only 2 Charlie Greens, 2 Charlie Greens..

There's only 2 Andy Gorams

bobbysands81 · 13-09-2012 11:21PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Yes and as we were put in div 3 we were regarded as one of the lowest place clubs.

Really why do yo care so much if we are dead or not the same club to you why the interest, Oh and as a matter of interest Regan gave an interview where he said that absolutely we were the same club
Also as we were barred from Europe due to lack of accounts we of course would not be seeded, how many times Bobby the share was transferred it was not a "new" share which it would have been if you have a problem take it up with the SPL,SFA and SFL who all recognise us as the same football club

It doesn't matter where you started the season, what matters according to SFL rules is where you finished in the preceding season and according to the SPL Rangers finished in the runner up position http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s97_1_3&workingDate=2012-5-13

bobbysands81 · 13-09-2012 11:23PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

How many more times do I have to post that link from the SFL website, where it CLEARLY states that it's still the same club ?

At the moment I'm not arguing that point but what have you got to say about "Rangers" not being seeded for the Scottish Communities League Cup then?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 13-09-2012 11:24PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Yes and as we were put in div 3 we were regarded as one of the lowest place clubs.

Really why do yo care so much if we are dead or not the same club to you why the interest, Oh and as a matter of interest Regan gave an interview where he said that absolutely we were the same club
Also as we were barred from Europe due to lack of accounts we of course would not be seeded, how many times Bobby the share was transferred it was not a "new" share which it would have been if you have a problem take it up with the SPL,SFA and SFL who all recognise us as the same football club

It doesn't matter where you started the season, what matters according to SFL rules is where you finished in the preceding season and according to the SPL Rangers finished in the runner up position http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s97_1_3&workingDate=2012-5-13

It doesn't matter toe or any other Gers fan I know it seems to only matter to people like yourself Bobby as I said earlier take it up with the authorities that do recognise us as the same club to the extent they want to take trophies off us well the SPL do

bobbysands81 · 13-09-2012 11:38PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

It doesn't matter toe or any other Gers fan I know it seems to only matter to people like yourself Bobby as I said earlier take it up with the authorities that do recognise us as the same club to the extent they want to take trophies off us well the SPL do

You think the SPL want to take trophies off you? How can trophies be taken off a club that has won none?

Dempsey · 13-09-2012 11:51PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

It doesn't matter toe or any other Gers fan I know it seems to only matter to people like yourself Bobby as I said earlier take it up with the authorities that do recognise us as the same club to the extent they want to take trophies off us well the SPL do

According to Charles Green, ye didnt win any of them, ye bought them for money as part of buying assets from Rangers. According to the law of the land, Sevco cannot take legal action against the SPL over whatever decision their independent commission no more than Celtic or Aberdeen could. Only Rangers or RFC 2012 PLC can do that because they were the holding company when those titles were won as they hold the corporate history (something that cannot be transferred, ever) and they are limping their way to liquidation.

Jelle1880 · 14-09-2012 01:10PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

At the moment I'm not arguing that point but what have you got to say about "Rangers" not being seeded for the Scottish Communities League Cup then?

Read BBE's post.
And if you really want to keep asking the same question over and over again, I'm sure the phone number for the SFA is easy to find.

You lot are ****ing hilarious by the way.
Despite what you may claim about being a new club and all that nonsense it seems like all you do is talk about us.

Hell, you talk more about us now than before this whole mess started.
I'm sure now I'll get the usual responses about how you're not obsessed and it's only normal to talk about us so much give the situation, but take a guess:

It's not.
You don't see ManU fans constantly in a City thread, or Spurs fans spamming the Arsenal thread.

Lee Wallace has signed a 5 year contract extension by the way.

lubo_moravcik · 14-09-2012 01:51PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Read BBE's post.
And if you really want to keep asking the same question over and over again, I'm sure the phone number for the SFA is easy to find.

You lot are ****ing hilarious by the way.
Despite what you may claim about being a new club and all that nonsense it seems like all you do is talk about us.

Hell, you talk more about us now than before this whole mess started.
I'm sure now I'll get the usual responses about how you're not obsessed and it's only normal to talk about us so much give the situation, but take a guess:

It's not.
You don't see ManU fans constantly in a City thread, or Spurs fans spamming the Arsenal thread.

Lee Wallace has signed a 5 year contract extension by the way.

We just like to keep reminding you that your club is dead, and it's now a zombie version that you follow follow.

Aside from that, here's the view of some on a West Ham Forum
http://kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138488&start=1340
I personally particularly like Wembley

dub wrote:
As for that lad Green, I still think he is up to something and would not be at all shocked to see the new club go tits up too.

Of course he is - he's all part of the master plan concocted by Murray over the last 3+ years after his share subscription offer flopped and there was no more cash available from the banks. The original plan was to liquidate Rangers and start afresh in the SPL with no debts. Murray sold Rangers to Whyte for £1 and paid off the £18m debt to Lloyds (who were demanding the debt to be repaid and who had a charge over Ibrox and the Murray Park training ground). Murray or his associates didn't want to pay the £18m and not get it back if Rangers liquidated, so they invested in Ticketus who bought 4 years of season tickets in return for giving Whyte's Rangers £20+m. Whyte also sold off the future catering revenues to Close Brothers in return for a few £m that provided some of the working capital they needed for last season. The plan was to see through last season, quickly liquidate the club and their friends in the SFA/SPL would just transfer the SPL licence to the new club who would start with no debts. The plan went wrong when they didn't make it past the very first preliminary match in the Champions League (nor the resulting Europa League preliminary) and with no European revenues they resorted to not paying income tax and VAT to provide them the cashflow they needed. As a result HMRC forced them into administration and they've been on the back foot ever since.

Duff & Phelps were appointed by Craig Whyte - they had previously advised Rangers on the sale to Whyte, so they are possibly complicit in the scam to sell everything to Green for £5m. Green is creating a siege mentality and the notion that everyone is out to get Rangers. He needs to get the Rangers support on his side and to create the 'hard done by' feeling amongst them all. As a result of this he's managed to get them to buy season tickets and turn up for matches - but where's that money going - Ticketus are still involved and want their money back, Close Brothers want their money back and Craig Whyte wants paying for all his troubles.

Although there was a court hearing and the resulting judgement that said under Scottish law the Ticketus agreement could be deemed invalid, this is no longer the case as the agreement was willingly transferred from old Rangers to Sevco 5088 Ltd, an English company who had bought all the old Rangers assets. So now the agreement is between 2 English companies where it is valid. Sevco 5088 Ltd then transferred some of the assets (but not the Ticketus agreement) to Sevco Scotland Ltd (a Scottish company) who are the new Rangers. There has to be a Scottish company as license holders to play in Scotland - but they now owe Sevco 5088 Ltd for the Ticketus money. That's why Rangers were briefly known as Sevco 5088 Ltd rather than the sale being directly to Sevco Scotland Ltd.

So how are they going to pay these people off and still try to run a club whose expenditure still outstrips their income. A share offer! Who's going to buy the shares - the supporters? What are they going to buy shares in - the Club or the Company (unfortunately the Company, so if that goes bust they've lost their money again). How's Green going to persuade them to invest - increase the siege mentality. He knows the titles will be stripped - but stir enough sh!t about them and declare that you'll never take away our titles and the supporters think he's even more of a hero. If the share offer fails, he'll walk away and they'll liquidate the company - he'll say he tried his best but the SFA/SPL had it in for him - it was their fault not his. They'll eventually sell Ibrox to someone so Ticketus and Close Brothers get their money back - it's worth more if it can be sold to a football club that will play there, which could be another new incarnation of Rangers or someone buys Cowdenbeath Rangers and relocates them to Ibrox, changes the strip and drops the 'Cowdenbeath'.

And Whyte - well his dad still holds the floating charge over the Murray Park training ground which is worth a few bob.

premierstone · 14-09-2012 01:57PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You don't see ManU fans constantly in a City thread, or Spurs fans spamming the Arsenal thread.

You don't get Man Utd fans on the City thread and Spurs fans on the Arsenal thread, because neither City or Arsenal brought their entire league into disrepute, if that ever happens you may have a like for like situation to make a comparison with.

And btw one mans spam is another mans FACT.;)

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 14-09-2012 02:36PM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

We just like to keep reminding you that your club is dead, and it's now a zombie version that you follow follow.

Aside from that, here's the view of some on a West Ham Forum
http://kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138488&start=1340
I personally particularly like Wembley

Really why should we give a **** what some nobody writes on an EPL clubs forum are you so sad you go looking for these things

Get yourselves over it we are going round in circles here you lot will never agree with what we see even though you can go onto the websites mentioned. And we have no interest in reading what your opinion of what our club is

Jelle1880 · 14-09-2012 03:02PM

premierstone wrote: »

You don't get Man Utd fans on the City thread and Spurs fans on the Arsenal thread, because neither City or Arsenal brought their entire league into disrepute, if that ever happens you may have a like for like situation to make a comparison with.

And btw one mans spam is another mans FACT.;)

Ah, the good old 'FACT' after a post, in some stupid attempt to make it more credible

Contradiction, are you lot familiar with it ?

'They are insignificant'
'We like reminding you'

Make up your minds.

premierstone · 14-09-2012 03:20PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Ah, the good old 'FACT' after a post, in some stupid attempt to make it more credible

Contradiction, are you lot familiar with it ?

'They are insignificant'
'We like reminding you'

Make up your minds.

Ah the ignore the real content of the post and side step the real issue trick, wp my 3rd tier comrade wp.

Jelle1880 · 14-09-2012 03:29PM

Hardly any content in that post, I'm sure neither Spurs or Utd fans would go to such lengths as your fans keep doing.

They may dislike each other, but it doesn't even come close to the hatred Celtic fans have for us.
You know, despite being a new club according to them.

lubo_moravcik · 14-09-2012 04:01PM

It's of absolutely no odds to me whether you give a **** or not what people think of your club/team/company/cheating/predicament. Don't you have any opinion on what was said in the post, of I was a fan of your mob I'd be a wee bit weary.

Am really just waiting for the house of cards to fall down

Dempsey · 14-09-2012 04:02PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You lot are ****ing hilarious by the way.
Despite what you may claim about being a new club and all that nonsense it seems like all you do is talk about us.

Hell, you talk more about us now than before this whole mess started.
I'm sure now I'll get the usual responses about how you're not obsessed and it's only normal to talk about us so much give the situation, but take a guess

Is this the Rangers thread or the Sevco thread? Is there certain things we arent allowed to talk about? Is there certain people only allowed to post in this thread?

Seems that a few are trying to dictate what is allowed to be discussed and if they dont like what other people are talking about they get trolled with the "you're obsessed - we dont want to discuss the biggest scandal in Scottish Football history" shíte. Its growing more tiresome and pathetic by the day tbh.

Madam · 14-09-2012 04:03PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Hardly any content in that post, I'm sure neither Spurs or Utd fans would go to such lengths as your fans keep doing.

They may dislike each other, but it doesn't even come close to the hatred 'SOME' Celtic fans have for us.
You know, despite being a new club according to them.

Fixed that wee bit for you:)

blahfckingblah · 14-09-2012 05:58PM

Madam wrote: »

Fixed that wee bit for you:)

dont do that he enjoys his "us against the world" stance

Madam · 14-09-2012 06:01PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

dont do that he enjoys his "us against the world" stance

Lol I do wonder what happened to the phrase 'everyone hates us and we don't care'? Seems to me they do care - or have they been humbled just a wee bit?;)

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 14-09-2012 06:12PM

Madam wrote: »

Lol I do wonder what happened to the phrase 'everyone hates us and we don't care'? Seems to me they do care - or have they been humbled just a wee bit?;)

Humbled by what by certain Tic fans coming on here and constantly repeating the same thing over and over.
No it just gets boring For a set of fans with supposedly no interest in a lowly third div club it certainly comes across as completely untrue

Madam · 14-09-2012 06:43PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Humbled by what by certain Tic fans coming on here and constantly repeating the same thing over and over.
No it just gets boring For a set of fans with supposedly no interest in a lowly third div club it certainly comes across as completely untrue

Oh, that oul chestnut:rolleyes: Any Celtic fan who tells you they have no interest in whats happening with Rangers - is a liar, we have this sort of morbid fascination with yis is all(and of course there are as you know those who are just loving everything that went down with Rangers);)

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 14-09-2012 06:47PM

Madam wrote: »

Oh, that oul chestnut:rolleyes: Any Celtic fan who tells you they have no interest in whats happening with Rangers - is a liar, we have this sort of morbid fascination with yis is all(and of course there are as you know those who are just loving everything that went down with Rangers);)

I would agree Madam but we keep getting told that buy hey ho I wouldn't mind if we could have some sort of conversation/debate without the same old tired lines getting trotted out we are never going to agree with each other on these points so it all seems...well pointless

blahfckingblah · 14-09-2012 07:09PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

I would agree Madam but we keep getting told that buy hey ho I wouldn't mind if we could have some sort of conversation/debate without the same old tired lines getting trotted out we are never going to agree with each other on these points so it all seems...well pointless

**** it close the thread... people keep ruining it by coming on here with their opinions and different points of view

lubo_moravcik · 14-09-2012 07:27PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 14-09-2012 07:38PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

I would agree Madam but we keep getting told that buy hey ho I wouldn't mind if we could have some sort of conversation/debate without the same old tired lines getting trotted out we are never going to agree with each other on these points so it all seems...well pointless

**** it close the thread... people keep ruining it by coming on here with their opinions and different points of view

You got a problem with your reading. Because that is not what I said I said I am fed up as are the others with going over the same ****e day after day we are never going to agree no matter what you think so it's pointless. Hope thats clear enough

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 14-09-2012 07:39PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You lot are ****ing hilarious by the way.
Despite what you may claim about being a new club and all that nonsense it seems like all you do is talk about us.

Hell, you talk more about us now than before this whole mess started.
I'm sure now I'll get the usual responses about how you're not obsessed and it's only normal to talk about us so much give the situation, but take a guess

Is this the Rangers thread or the Sevco thread? Is there certain things we arent allowed to talk about? Is there certain people only allowed to post in this thread?

Seems that a few are trying to dictate what is allowed to be discussed and if they dont like what other people are talking about they get trolled with the "you're obsessed - we dont want to discuss the biggest scandal in Scottish Football history" shíte. Its growing more tiresome and pathetic by the day tbh.

Stop repeating yourself then now that is trolling in my opinion you know we are never going to agree with you

blahfckingblah · 14-09-2012 08:56PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

You got a problem with your reading. Because that is not what I said I said I am fed up as are the others with going over the same ****e day after day we are never going to agree no matter what you think so it's pointless. Hope thats clear enough

yes and you have the option of replying to what you perceive as the same ****e or not. you could always ignore said posts and post about a topic that isn't the same tired old crap

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 14-09-2012 08:57PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

yes and you have the option of replying to what you perceive as the same ****e or not. you could always ignore said posts and post about a topic that isn't the same tired old crap

I think you will find I often do but carry on it obviously fills a space in your life

blahfckingblah · 14-09-2012 09:13PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

I think you will find I often do but carry on it obviously fills a space in your life

I commend you for your efforts good sir, oh it fills a void in my life that's irreplaceable.

Dempsey · 14-09-2012 09:18PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Stop repeating yourself then now that is trolling in my opinion you know we are never going to agree with you

Anything I brought up in this thread has been in the media that day or the day before. Maybe you should contact Rangers to tell Charles Green to shut his mouth because he's causing such an inconvenience for you on boards.ie! :rolleyes:

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