Breaking Bad 5x08 - Gliding Over All [SPOILERS WITHIN]

Kylo Ren · 04-09-2012 04:40AM

Kirby · 04-09-2012 04:42AM

homerun_homer wrote: »

Excellent episode. My stomach was in knots watching it wondering how it was gonna end and on what type of cliffhanger. It's been a long time coming, excellent stuff.

Anyone else spot the Bin Laden assassination reference. The show is set before this happened so they shouldn't have been able to reference it.

:eek:

mistake

expectationlost · 04-09-2012 05:16AM

Kirby wrote: »

:eek:

mistake

they said it as hard as killing bin laden, not reference that they already succeeded

LionelNashe · 04-09-2012 07:12AM

expectationlost wrote: »

Kirby wrote: »

:eek:

mistake

they said it as hard as killing bin laden, not reference that they already succeeded

No , he used past tense. I took it to mean that this episode is set after Bin Ladens death

Grimebox · 04-09-2012 07:28AM

I can't believe you guys are discussing whether or not that book is from Gale! That flashback put everything on a platter for you. I wish they left out that flashback to be honest. My only complaint about this show is that sometimes it feels a little too spoon fed.

crazygeryy · 04-09-2012 07:42AM

Our man in Havana wrote: »

thecornflake wrote: »

I really hope that storage locker shows up in the series storage wars.

any bright spark want to take a guess how much is there?

expectationlost · 04-09-2012 08:00AM

LionelNashe wrote: »

No , he used past tense. I took it to mean that this episode is set after Bin Ladens death

listened again, he uses a tense it wasn't past, conditional or something

expectationlost · 04-09-2012 08:02AM

i think thats why hank was talking about brewing, something simiar to meth he would know walt as chemist would be good at, he known this for along time it finally fermented.

Mousewar · 04-09-2012 08:06AM

Grimebox wrote: »

I can't believe you guys are discussing whether or not that book is from Gale! That flashback put everything on a platter for you. I wish they left out that flashback to be honest. My only complaint about this show is that sometimes it feels a little too spoon fed.

Actually I think that the book not being from Gale is.quite likely now. Ultimately it doesn't matter as its function was to bring Hank to an awareness. But it would be typical BB for it merely to be a coincidence. And it answers the question as to why Walt would keep such a present in his jacks.

Penn · 04-09-2012 08:31AM

Kirby wrote: »

:eek:

mistake

I think I remember either the producers or someone else saying that even though the show started in 2008, it wasn't set in 2008 because they knew the show would take place in a shorter time-frame than it would air, so they set it as being around 2010 or 2011, and never mentioned what year it was to keep it ambiguous. So with the mention of Bin Laden it's now either 2011 or 2012, and in show time just over a year had passed at that point so the show either started in 2010 or 2011.

Anachrony · 04-09-2012 08:31AM

crazygeryy wrote: »

any bright spark want to take a guess how much is there?

It looks about 2'x5'x5' = 50 cubic feet. By my calculations, you can stack about 25k bills in a cubic foot, so around 1.25 million bills. If it was all $100 bills, which it's not, that would be $125 million. We know it's supposedly a mix of denominations. It would seem pointless to hoard bills less than $20, so lets conservatively estimate they're an even mix of $20, $50, and $100 by value. That would be an average of $37.5 per bill, which would work out to nearly $50 million.

Son0vagun · 04-09-2012 08:34AM

bunnymunro wrote: »

Am i the only one disappointed we havent really got the back story to gus fring yet...dont get me wrong this series was frickin awesome but there was still a lot of unanswered questions about fring..who was he 4really and why couldnt the cartel kill him in that flashback where they kiled his buddy by the pool..will have to watch back but am i missing something! at the time i was expecting walts demise to come at the hands of whoever fring is connected too...strangely there was no mention of this this season..

Expect a spin off series!

Cina · 04-09-2012 08:45AM

homerun_homer · 04-09-2012 08:57AM

expectationlost wrote: »

they said it as hard as killing bin laden, not reference that they already succeeded

He said "Wacking Bin Laden wasn't this complicated"

Penn wrote: »

I think I remember either the producers or someone else saying that even though the show started in 2008, it wasn't set in 2008 because they knew the show would take place in a shorter time-frame than it would air, so they set it as being around 2010 or 2011, and never mentioned what year it was to keep it ambiguous. So with the mention of Bin Laden it's now either 2011 or 2012, and in show time just over a year had passed at that point so the show either started in 2010 or 2011.

I would guess that this could be a factor. It's not at all something I'm picking at as if it ruins the show/episode, just a funny one to spot if the show is defined by the year it began to air.

04-09-2012 09:05AM

Anachrony wrote: »

It looks about 2'x5'x5' = 50 cubic feet. By my calculations, you can stack about 25k bills in a cubic foot, so around 1.25 million bills. If it was all $100 bills, which it's not, that would be $125 million. We know it's supposedly a mix of denominations. It would seem pointless to hoard bills less than $20, so lets conservatively estimate they're an even mix of $20, $50, and $100 by value. That would be an average of $37.5 per bill, which would work out to nearly $50 million.

It would be an average of $56.67 per bill, just over $70m by the rest of your calculations,:pac:

Zero-Cool · 04-09-2012 09:17AM

Well we all know Walt didn't want to give up cooking. His end goal wasn't an amount of money anymore, he wanted infamy. During that pool scene, I was thinking he had something planned. I'd say he left that book out on purpose. The flash back tells us Hank already joined the dots before, Walt should have destroyed that book but he leaves it on his toilet that he knows Hank will use at some point.

I'd say Walt wants Hank to know he's the drug lord everyone is looking for but that book isn't enough evidence to do anything about it.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh

Anachrony · 04-09-2012 09:22AM

Deleted User wrote: »

It would be an average of $56.67 per bill, just over $70m by the rest of your calculations,:pac:

I specified even "by value". In other words a ratio of 5:2:1 between $20, $50, and $100, as a conservative estimate. If you assume a 1:1:1 ratio, that would be another way to go, giving a less conservative estimate. I don't have a sense of what the ratio of bills was, but Skyler should. I don't think she is that good of an accountant.

squonk · 04-09-2012 10:14AM

Interesting episode. The montages were great. The lockup with the money is awesome! I'm looking forward to seeing what becomes of that. Maybe we'll see Gomez smiling one more time next season?

I'm not buying that the book is actually Gale's. It's another GB, maybe Gretchen as was said. There clearly is a history there and we don't know exactly what caused Walt to leave Grey Matter but the book might be part of that puzzle. I think the book is more a catalyst to have Hank put the pieces in place. It makes sense that the book isn't Gale's. Once again Hank is the guy with the crazy gut feeling who needs to pull proof together, much like with Fring. Nobody believed him then and it'll be the same now, only it'll look worse because he's fingering his brother in law and he presumably won't be able to tell his men or even Marie.

I too thought that Holly was going for a dip in that final scene. You have to love the subtlety of the show. The scene where Holly had been 'purpled' was a great touch. What was even better was Marie mentioning that she had to take vitamins for mothers-to-be for her hair. She wants her own little Holly. I love the way that it's never been explained or discussed why they're childless but perhaps it's Hank's decision? It's just another little sub plot that they threw in.

Much as I don't fancy waiting 9 months for the next season, its a small price to pay. This time next year all these characters will be bowing out of our lives for good. I find I'm so engrossed in the world and caught up in all of the characters lives that I care quite a lot about them. I'm happy there's another season to go. It's not so bad waiting 9 months for one last chance for some old friends to surprise me before it's all gone for ever.

BetterCallSaul · 04-09-2012 10:19AM

It couldn't have been spelled out any clearer for us. The book is from Gale and Hank now knows that Walk is Heisenberg. How do people not get this?

Dave! · 04-09-2012 10:28AM

squonk wrote: »

Interesting episode. The montages were great. The lockup with the money is awesome! I'm looking forward to seeing what becomes of that. Maybe we'll see Gomez smiling one more time next season?

I was thinking that Walt was going to be rubbing his hands together, and was going to invest it in the business in some way, and was not looking forward to another few episodes of Skylar moaning

But thankfully it doesn't appear to be going that way.

There'll probably be some legacy issue/s that Walt will have to deal with while Hank is on his ass, but I don't think it'll be because he (Walt) wants to keep going.

CMpunked · 04-09-2012 10:38AM

There is a chance the book wasnt from gale. (I for one believe it was from him,) but one of the reasons I think it could be from gretchen is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDnodgqcrP8

How Walt looks nearly reminiscent when Gale named Whitman. He looks to the left side and dont neurologists say when someone is trying to recall something they will look to the left and not to the right?
But then he asks Gale can he recite it. Walt is a clever guy, he knows right well that Gale could recite PI to whatever hundredth numeral so he's certainly going to expect him to recite the poem he just named.
It's like he wants to be reminded of whatever he once had with Gretchen.

Again, I'm not fully convinced that the book isnt from gale, but there definitely is credence to the idea that it may not be. And of course, this is Breaking Bad, so you'd never know.

But aside from all that no one can argue that Hank hasn't figured it all out now, Gilligan himself stated it. :pac:

Mousewar · 04-09-2012 10:38AM

BetterCallSaul wrote: »

It couldn't have been spelled out any clearer for us. The book is from Gale and Hank now knows that Walk is Heisenberg. How do people not get this?

Because it wasn't spelled out. Only the connection that Hank made in his own mind was made clear to us but that doesn't mean his connection is correct. You might be right but it's a valid question.

Penn · 04-09-2012 10:43AM

Dave! wrote: »

I was thinking that Walt was going to be rubbing his hands together, and was going to invest it in the business in some way, and was not looking forward to another few episodes of Skylar moaning But thankfully it doesn't appear to be going that way.

There'll probably be some legacy issue/s that Walt will have to deal with while Hank is on his ass, but I don't think it'll be because he (Walt) wants to keep going.

I think part of why Walt got out was because he was bored. Him and Todd spent 3 months cooking with no problems, making huge amounts of money, everything was well organised and planned, there were no loose ends. When Skylar showed him the money, I think he partially realised that the excitement was gone. He had an enormous stack of money that he could never spend, and if he kept going the stack would only keep getting bigger, but the thrill of doing it all was gone. He started it all to get money for his family, but kept doing it out of ego and excitement.

We've seen before how the thrill and rush can get to him, like in Season 2 when he spent a whole day doing routine things like fixing the boiler, replacing floorboards etc. Then in the hardware shop, notices someone getting ingredients to make meth and confronts them. He needs the rush and was probably getting a bit bored by cooking with Todd over the three months.

BetterCallSaul · 04-09-2012 10:54AM

Mousewar wrote: »

Because it wasn't spelled out. Only the connection that Hank made in his own mind was made clear to us but that doesn't mean his connection is correct. You might be right but it's a valid question.

Come on man! How clearer did you expect them to put it? I can't believe people are questioning whether the G.B. initials are from Gale Boetticher.

It was literally spelt out for us; W.W. / G.B. We were reminded of the book in earlier episodes and even shown a flashback when Hank is reading it.

The purpose of the final scene was to change the angle for the last 8 episodes, Hank now knows. In my mind, that could not have been made any clearer.

Mousewar · 04-09-2012 10:59AM

And I presume it's not going to be that easy to just walk away from the business. He's in bed with Lydia and the Czech operation and that other crew that Mike introduced him to. They've already paid a 5m finder's fee to Mike. No way they're forgetting about that.
The prison purge was an obvious homage to The Godfather baptism scene. I'm expecting they'll take another theme from those films for next year -' Just when you think you're out they drag you back in'.

Mousewar · 04-09-2012 11:03AM

BetterCallSaul wrote: »

Come on man! How clearer did you expect them to put it? I can't believe people are questioning whether the G.B. initials are from Gale Boetticher.

It was literally spelt out for us; W.W. / G.B. We were reminded of the book in earlier episodes and even shown a flashback when Hank is reading it.

The purpose of the final scene was to change the angle for the last 8 episodes, Hank now knows. In my mind, that could not have been made any clearer.

He knows now alright - but as I said it would be a very nice BB reversal if he came to the right conclusion from the wrong evidence. It probably is Gale but it mightn't be. Gretchen, depending on her maiden name, could fit just as well. I'm usually not one for searching for complex things that just aren't there but this one fits nicely into the BB universe.

Cienciano · 04-09-2012 11:11AM

BetterCallSaul wrote: »

It couldn't have been spelled out any clearer for us. The book is from Gale and Hank now knows that Walk is Heisenberg. How do people not get this?

No, WW was in the book, Hank is now going to hunt down Willy Wonka (a name he said it earlier). Hank knows he's a sort of mad scientest that could make the blue meth. Perfect cover and distribution in a chocolate factory and the oompa lumpas will never talk, so the perfect staff in a meth lab. Hank realised all this, you could see the look on his face at the end when he was mentally joining all the dots together.
That's what I think the end scene meant anyway

BetterCallSaul · 04-09-2012 11:12AM

Mousewar wrote: »

He knows now alright - but as I said it would be a very nice BB reversal if he came to the right conclusion from the wrong evidence. It probably is Gale but it mightn't be. Gretchen, depending on her maiden name, could fit just as well. I'm usually not one for searching for complex things that just aren't there but this one fits nicely into the BB universe.

Gretchen Schwartz.

Mousewar · 04-09-2012 11:14AM

BetterCallSaul wrote: »

Gretchen Schwartz.

Yes, that's why I said her maiden name.

BetterCallSaul · 04-09-2012 11:15AM

Mousewar wrote: »

Yes, that's why I said her maiden name.

Didn't know she was married, was a quick Google. Right, I'm done debating this. Believe what you want.

Breaking Bad 5x08 - Gliding Over All [**SPOILERS WITHIN**]

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Breaking Bad 5x08 - Gliding Over All [SPOILERS WITHIN]