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is the govt about to fall?

  • 03-09-2012 11:42AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭


    Lots of rumours and discussions on radio shows this morning that the current govt may be about to fall.

    Apparently labour party members have been told to prepare themselves for a possible imminent general election.

    Apparently Sinn Fein plan to put down a motion of no confidence in James Reilly after his handling of €130m health cut backs.

    Labour/FG coalition was never a match made in heaven, but its unwinding a lot quicker than I thought possible.

    Opinions anyone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Lots of rumours and discussions on radio shows this morning that the current govt may be about to fall.

    Apparently labour party members have been told to prepare themselves for a possible imminent general election.

    Apparently Sinn Fein plan to put down a motion of no confidence in James Reilly after his handling of €130m health cut backs.

    Labour/FG coalition was never a match made in heaven, but its unwinding a lot quicker than I thought possible.

    Opinions anyone?

    yeah take it to politics -->


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Can't see it at all. If anything does come of it, it'll be Reilly sacrificed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    There doesn't seem to have been any issue big enough to warrant a collapse of the coalition.

    They haven't even been in the Dail for a number of weeks. Sounds like stirring to me tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Apparently labour party members have been told to prepare themselves for a possible imminent general election.

    The same way punts were being printed last year to prepare for our imminent exit from the Euro?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    It's either a general election or a Labour party split.

    On second thoughts, the second would mean a general election anyway.....so, we're doomed!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Labour dont have the balls for reform thats why it will fall


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    I predict another year of poor to mediocre, uninspiring leadership devoid of any enthusiasm or desire to innovate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Currently being discussed on 2fm with colm Hayes.
    Labour party chairman was on to the show via phone, seems very very unhappy with a few FG decisions of late.

    Dont shoot the messenger!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Probably just looking for leverage coming into the new Dail term. There's no way Labour would force an election now. Just look at the opinion polls, they'd be the big losers if they did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    its all a pretense. they are trying to "show" that they are "working hard" - in actual face they couldn't give a toss. But they need to be "seen" disagreeing with each other. :roll eyes:

    there should be a "no confidence" vote on every single on of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    This government will not fall anytime soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    If the government does fall, a few FG/LAB TDs will lose their seats, and we'll end up with a multi-party coalition that will spend most of its time in a state of war with itself.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    If the government does fall, a few FG/LAB TDs will lose their seats, and we'll end up with a multi-party coalition that will spend most of its time in a state of war with itself.

    Yep - and they know it - and whats more, they know a good lot of the public knows it!
    ...So they will use all that knowledge alone to stay in power rather than see it handed over to someone else.

    We are stuck with the two-face, constantly u-turning, double-standard, lying bastards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,778 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    And if there was an election what would change ? This country would need to grow a set of balls and deal with real money draining problems and stop moaning about people working for the state, the vast majority of them on very average to modest conditions.

    When I look down my street of 12 houses there's only 3 in which people are working, officially that is. The rest is on the dole and at least 5 out of the 11 people involved are doing plenty of casual of the books work on a very regular basis. It's not only the fact that the state pays them their unemployment benefits but also all the attached benefits which runs into a few hundred Euro a week a head and how many of these chancers are there running about nationwide ? Some proper social welfare inspections could save this country millions a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭euddue


    i'm voting for the swedish social democratic party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Can you imagine Jerry Adams as our prime minister...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭euddue


    Can you imagine Jerry Adams as our prime minister...

    I never knew they let foreigners be taoiseach


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Can you imagine Jerry Adams as our prime minister...

    I suspect Merkel would schite bricks at the thought!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    euddue wrote: »
    I never knew they let foreigners be taoiseach

    de Valera was born in America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    Labour would be stupid to pull out atm. As someone else said, their poll numbers are crap. Sinn Fein would eat them alive and all that would happen is Fine Gael and Fianna Fail would do a deal "In the National Interest".

    The Troika still run the show and any newly formed Govt will have to deal with their restrictions.

    This whole health cutbacks "crisis" is a joke anyway. The HSE have overspent massively (they gave almost 300m in pay increments this year ffs) and now are trying to use the Publics affection for frontline staff to cover the vast amount of waste in that black hole of a Dept.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Its about time we caused absolute chaos and planted the Sinners in power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Its about time we caused absolute chaos and planted the Sinners in power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭positron


    Another election for what? What other choice do we have out there?

    If the Government fails, the best option would be to hand over the keys to ze Germans, because even with their self interests and all that, they would be more efficient and good for the country than the local politicians we have seen in last 10-20 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    I'd vote for a man of the people, who goes against the grain someone like Mick Wallace...er, no wait....or some one who stuck to their principals like Ming...actually no er..they are all just as corrupt as each other. I hope it does fall and the country descends in to anarchy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Can you imagine Jerry Adams as our prime minister...

    Tom Adams brother is he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    Boombastic wrote: »
    I'd vote for a man of the people, who goes against the grain someone like Mick Wallace...er, no wait....or some one who stuck to their principals like Ming...actually no er..they are all just as corrupt as each other. I hope it does fall and the country descends in to anarchy.

    i claim meath


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Biggins wrote: »
    We are stuck with the two-face, constantly u-turning, double-standard, lying bastards!

    How is this different to any other democratic country? This is situation normal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    I think they are, Labour is becoming Labour again, but I think it is to late for them they will be devastated in the polls. I will be voting FG I think they are doing the best job to spite the difficult circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    mikom wrote: »
    Tom Adams brother is he?

    I wonder whatever happened to Grizzly?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I wonder whatever happened to Grizzly?

    Got the health portfolio.....


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