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is the govt about to fall?

Ghandee

Lots of rumours and discussions on radio shows this morning that the current govt may be about to fall.

Apparently labour party members have been told to prepare themselves for a possible imminent general election.

Apparently Sinn Fein plan to put down a motion of no confidence in James Reilly after his handling of €130m health cut backs.

Labour/FG coalition was never a match made in heaven, but its unwinding a lot quicker than I thought possible.

Opinions anyone?

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IM0

Ghandee wrote: »

Lots of rumours and discussions on radio shows this morning that the current govt may be about to fall.

Apparently labour party members have been told to prepare themselves for a possible imminent general election.

Apparently Sinn Fein plan to put down a motion of no confidence in James Reilly after his handling of €130m health cut backs.

Labour/FG coalition was never a match made in heaven, but its unwinding a lot quicker than I thought possible.

Opinions anyone?

yeah take it to politics -->

super_furry

Can't see it at all. If anything does come of it, it'll be Reilly sacrificed.

seamus

There doesn't seem to have been any issue big enough to warrant a collapse of the coalition.

They haven't even been in the Dail for a number of weeks. Sounds like stirring to me tbh.

Guy:Incognito

Ghandee wrote: »

Apparently labour party members have been told to prepare themselves for a possible imminent general election.

The same way punts were being printed last year to prepare for our imminent exit from the Euro?

Happyman42

It's either a general election or a Labour party split.

On second thoughts, the second would mean a general election anyway.....so, we're doomed!

SEPT 23 1989

Labour dont have the balls for reform thats why it will fall

JohnMarston

I predict another year of poor to mediocre, uninspiring leadership devoid of any enthusiasm or desire to innovate

Ghandee

Currently being discussed on 2fm with colm Hayes.
Labour party chairman was on to the show via phone, seems very very unhappy with a few FG decisions of late.

Dont shoot the messenger!

super_furry

Probably just looking for leverage coming into the new Dail term. There's no way Labour would force an election now. Just look at the opinion polls, they'd be the big losers if they did.

fishy fishy

its all a pretense. they are trying to "show" that they are "working hard" - in actual face they couldn't give a toss. But they need to be "seen" disagreeing with each other. :roll eyes:

there should be a "no confidence" vote on every single on of them.

Micky Dolenz

This government will not fall anytime soon.

ejmaztec

If the government does fall, a few FG/LAB TDs will lose their seats, and we'll end up with a multi-party coalition that will spend most of its time in a state of war with itself.

Biggins

ejmaztec wrote: »

If the government does fall, a few FG/LAB TDs will lose their seats, and we'll end up with a multi-party coalition that will spend most of its time in a state of war with itself.

Yep - and they know it - and whats more, they know a good lot of the public knows it!
...So they will use all that knowledge alone to stay in power rather than see it handed over to someone else.

We are stuck with the two-face, constantly u-turning, double-standard, lying bastards!

meathstevie

And if there was an election what would change ? This country would need to grow a set of balls and deal with real money draining problems and stop moaning about people working for the state, the vast majority of them on very average to modest conditions.

When I look down my street of 12 houses there's only 3 in which people are working, officially that is. The rest is on the dole and at least 5 out of the 11 people involved are doing plenty of casual of the books work on a very regular basis. It's not only the fact that the state pays them their unemployment benefits but also all the attached benefits which runs into a few hundred Euro a week a head and how many of these chancers are there running about nationwide ? Some proper social welfare inspections could save this country millions a week.

euddue

i'm voting for the swedish social democratic party.

TeddyTedson

Can you imagine Jerry Adams as our prime minister...

euddue

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Can you imagine Jerry Adams as our prime minister...

I never knew they let foreigners be taoiseach

Biggins

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Can you imagine Jerry Adams as our prime minister...

I suspect Merkel would schite bricks at the thought!

Anyone

euddue wrote: »

I never knew they let foreigners be taoiseach

de Valera was born in America.

KerranJast

Labour would be stupid to pull out atm. As someone else said, their poll numbers are crap. Sinn Fein would eat them alive and all that would happen is Fine Gael and Fianna Fail would do a deal "In the National Interest".

The Troika still run the show and any newly formed Govt will have to deal with their restrictions.

This whole health cutbacks "crisis" is a joke anyway. The HSE have overspent massively (they gave almost 300m in pay increments this year ffs) and now are trying to use the Publics affection for frontline staff to cover the vast amount of waste in that black hole of a Dept.

TeddyTedson

Its about time we caused absolute chaos and planted the Sinners in power

TeddyTedson

Its about time we caused absolute chaos and planted the Sinners in power

positron

Another election for what? What other choice do we have out there?

If the Government fails, the best option would be to hand over the keys to ze Germans, because even with their self interests and all that, they would be more efficient and good for the country than the local politicians we have seen in last 10-20 years.

Boombastic

I'd vote for a man of the people, who goes against the grain someone like Mick Wallace...er, no wait....or some one who stuck to their principals like Ming...actually no er..they are all just as corrupt as each other. I hope it does fall and the country descends in to anarchy.

mikom

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Can you imagine Jerry Adams as our prime minister...

Tom Adams brother is he?

neil_hosey

Boombastic wrote: »

I'd vote for a man of the people, who goes against the grain someone like Mick Wallace...er, no wait....or some one who stuck to their principals like Ming...actually no er..they are all just as corrupt as each other. I hope it does fall and the country descends in to anarchy.

i claim meath

Mr Benevolent

Biggins wrote: »

We are stuck with the two-face, constantly u-turning, double-standard, lying bastards!

How is this different to any other democratic country? This is situation normal.

Colmustard

I think they are, Labour is becoming Labour again, but I think it is to late for them they will be devastated in the polls. I will be voting FG I think they are doing the best job to spite the difficult circumstances.

ejmaztec

mikom wrote: »

Tom Adams brother is he?

I wonder whatever happened to Grizzly?

mikom

ejmaztec wrote: »

I wonder whatever happened to Grizzly?

Got the health portfolio.....