2 Children beheaded by Taliban

Riddle101 · 01-09-2012 02:58AM

Scumbags, sick twisted scumbags.

czx · 01-09-2012 03:08AM

Biggins wrote: »

What rubbish!

They are not fighting an aggressor - they are killing their own women and innocent kids.
BIG difference!

There can be no justification for that - and anyone that tries in my mind, is an ill-informed idiot who can't differentiate!

They are fighting the Western way of life.

Riddle101 · 01-09-2012 03:19AM

czx wrote: »

They are fighting the Western way of life.

Who cares. It doesn't make it any more justifiable.

partyatmygaff · 01-09-2012 03:32AM

czx wrote: »

They are fighting the Western way of life.

How is it their problem? If they want to live in caves, act like barbarians and use an odd number of stones in lieu of toilet paper like the man whose life they want to imitate, they're more than welcome to. If others want to live like modern, civilised human beings or alternatively adopt a western lifestyle (Not necessarily the same thing...) they should be able to do so without a troupe of animals persecuting them at every moment.

Such horrible excuses for human beings don't deserve any sympathy.

asherbassad · 01-09-2012 05:51AM

Jake1 wrote: »

according to Reuters two children were beheaded in Afghanistan.

A 12 year old boy, and a 6 year old girl.

There really are no words for these evil C***s who would do that to anyone never mind children.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/afghanistan-beheading-child-idINDEE87U0AC20120831

No words, huh?

How about these evil cnuts:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186595/U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-Iraqi-killed-family-spared-death-sentence.html

Let me guess....the poor GI's were "stressed" so they got wasted and gang raped a child, then slaughtered her screaming family and torched the bodies.

Words can't describe who would do this....especially to children?

Change the record.

Chuck Stone · 01-09-2012 06:09AM

asherbassad wrote: »

How about these evil cnuts:

Eh.. yes, evil cunts - were you expecting someone to stand up for them or something?

Change the record.

Stop condemning acts of depraved brutality?

No.

01-09-2012 06:18AM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Eh.. yes, evil cunts - were you expecting someone to stand up for them or something?

Stop condemning acts of depraved brutality?

No.

If you don't support America then you can giiiit out.

Sindri · 01-09-2012 06:19AM

The Master of Disaster wrote: »

The Taliban has actually denied claims that they carried out these attacks. The first one bears hallmarks of their strategy but in the case of the little girl I'm not so sure. If they sentence a female to death it's normally by stoning (as they did when they were in power '96 - '01) or else they've been known to mutilate as part of a punishment. More likely it's some loose low- or mid-level commander acting without the official support of the higher leadership and trying to make a reputation for himself. From everything I've read it seems the Taliban is polarising into an older, more political leadership council and a new breed of junior commanders who are only partly driven by ideology and are just as interested in the criminal component of calling oneself 'Taliban'

Regardless of who or why it was carried out I think we can safely say that said person(s) have a special place in whatever Hell the believe in waiting for them.

That's interesting. What exactly makes you think that?

01-09-2012 06:40AM

Sindri wrote: »

That's interesting. What exactly makes you think that?

Probably all the heroin.

Wibbs · 01-09-2012 09:15AM

opinion guy wrote: »

Honestly its like the middle ages in that country

That's giving the middle ages a bad name by association.

Biggins wrote: »

What rubbish!

They are not fighting an aggressor - they are killing their own women and innocent kids.
BIG difference!

Yea but he has a point in one way. In the 80's the valiant mujahadeen were taking on the bold Russkis and the west was celebrating them. Shít even Rambo turned up to help them in Hollywoodland. They were the same people, doing the same things, just their more dubious guff was ignored for "the greater good".

Biggins · 01-09-2012 09:34AM

czx wrote: »

They are fighting the Western way of life.

Then let them fight it by teaching their way peacefully and with conviction.
Instilling terror never wins hearts and minds over, it just breeds quiet resentment and further internal (and external) aggression which eventually manifests in ways that sadly means more lives are lost further down the road.

Killing ones own innocent people to fight a way of life that is created hundreds of thousands of miles away is stupid and inexcusable - and tying to then justify those killings is beyond any semblance of proportionality and reason!

Wibbs wrote: »

...Yea but he has a point in one way. In the 80's the valiant mujahadeen were taking on the bold Russkis and the west was celebrating them. Shít even Rambo turned up to help them in Hollywoodland. They were the same people, doing the same things, just their more dubious guff was ignored for "the greater good".

The mujahadeen were fighting an internal invading (from beyond their borders) aggressor and the mujahadeen was attacking them - not their own women and kids.
The mujahadeen were not fighting to just impose a religion. They wanted their country back under an idea of self-determination beyond just religion.

Patrick2010 · 01-09-2012 10:35AM

Taliban are an evil bunch but worse things are going on regularly in Mexico. Just google zeta beheadings and see what pops up. This particular Mexican drugs gang make the Taliban look like choirboys by comparison.

Wibbs · 01-09-2012 10:51AM

Biggins wrote: »

The mujahadeen were fighting an internal invading (from beyond their borders) aggressor and the mujahadeen was attacking them - not their own women and kids.

What they're doing now only it's the Yanks this time, not the Commies. Where and from what wider background do you think the taliban came from? You do realise that the Taliban sprang out of Pakistani backed mujahadeen background that became popular with the locals on a "let's clean up Afghanistan" and "stop the(other mujahadeen) warlords". Ironically it was after a score of child killings and other murders by various Mujahadeen groups that garnered the most support.

The mujahadeen were not fighting to just impose a religion. They wanted their country back under an idea of self-determination beyond just religion.

I'd suggest reading up on what was going on at the time. You might be surprised. It wasn't all Sandy Gall bringing you "freedom fighters" for the News at Ten. Not by a long shot. There was a serious cultural/religious element to it. IT's part and parcel of what makes them bloody good fighters.

Sea Sharp · 01-09-2012 11:16AM

I'm in no way trying to play down these disgusting and despicable acts but for people who are concluding that this some how justifies the US military presence in Afghanistan; (Some) American soldiers have done equally disgusting things to Afghan people.
There's always a certain percentage of people capable of this kind of evil, irregardless of religion or nationality.

Biggins · 01-09-2012 11:30AM

Wibbs wrote: »

What they're doing now only it's the Yanks this time, not the Commies. Where and from what wider background do you think the taliban came from? You do realise that the Taliban sprang out of Pakistani backed mujahadeen background that became popular with the locals on a "let's clean up Afghanistan" and "stop the(other mujahadeen) warlords". Ironically it was after a score of child killings and other murders by various Mujahadeen groups that garnered the most support.

I do realise that the Taliban sprang from a mujahadeen background.
In essence, they were an internal faction with their own additional agenda, using and joining up into a further mujahadeen force to also gain (after eventual success they hoped) their own later imposing of a more strict religious way of life.

The mujahadeen had one main agenda, to get the Russians out whereas an internal faction within also had additional other ideas additionally.

Wibbs wrote: »

I'd suggest reading up on what was going on at the time. You might be surprised. It wasn't all Sandy Gall bringing you "freedom fighters" for the News at Ten. Not by a long shot. There was a serious cultural/religious element to it. IT's part and parcel of what makes them bloody good fighters.

No argument, its what gave them partial 'drive'.
Again, their main objective was to be rid of what they saw as invading "Russian oppressors" - the objective of the mujahadeen was not however to impose simply a pure Taliban lifestyle methodology.

To get back to this daft post in relation to killing their own women and kids:

Originally Posted by czx
It's just their way of sticking it to the man though. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

In regard to "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter", it can be applied with it comes to fighting an external aggressor imposing their presence and/or lifestyle down upon an oppressed people.
...However killing off ones own people for the sake of religious reason, etc - does not make one (in my mind) a freedom fighter - only a religious fanatic - a murdering nut case!

A person has to be able to differentiate.
Some clearly can't.

ArtSmart · 01-09-2012 12:48PM

asherbassad wrote: »

No words, huh?

How about these evil cnuts:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186595/U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-Iraqi-killed-family-spared-death-sentence.html

Let me guess....the poor GI's were "stressed" so they got wasted and gang raped a child, then slaughtered her screaming family and torched the bodies.

Words can't describe who would do this....especially to children?

Change the record.

Jake1 wrote: »

according to Reuters two children were beheaded in Afghanistan.

A 12 year old boy, and a 6 year old girl.

There really are no words for these evil C***s who would do that to anyone never mind children.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/afghanistan-beheading-child-idINDEE87U0AC20120831

ye see, it aint the Taliban, or the American Soldiers, or the countless others. Tis humanity itself.

and yes, while a society culture can effect attitudes, it tends to be the extremist of that society, or those in extreme circumstances who perpetrate such acts.

dreadful of course - but the prob here is the blanket denouncement of a group for the actions of a few. As wibbs mentioned 30 yrs ago, the Taliban were 'fighting the good fight' - despite the west knowing how they treated women etc.

Still, looking at the responses in this thread, it would seem the power of the media is greater than i would have thought.

and that's where wars are 'won' (justified) - in the 'courtroom' of public opinion.

nevermind history, context, sequence of events, atrocities committed by different groups from different sides, and again history, lets just all go hysterical because of a Reuters report.

edit: to clarify, i dont condone the Taliban's declared pronouncements in a variety of areas, but neither do i think each and every one are child killing nutters. maybe look through some media articles pertaining to the Irish over the last 100 years or so....and judge their accuracy.

The Master of Disaster · 01-09-2012 01:02PM

Sindri wrote: »

That's interesting. What exactly makes you think that?

Well the problem starts with trying to define who and what the Taliban is. When they were in power they were quite an obvious distinct movement. But now as a secret and persistently hunted organisation it is much harder to articulate what the Taliban is. Even military and civilian experts will tell you that it is a term which now incorporates various militant factions, out and out criminals, local militias, foreigners and various combinations of these. Some believe in education for women, some don't. Some are willing to negotiate with Karzai, some are not etc. When most of us think of the Taliban we think of the bearded Mullahs i.e. the Quetta Shura. But they're based in Pakistan and communications are fraught with risk anyway. Thus the degree to which their directives are followed varies depending on the loyalty and religious interpretation of their subordinates.

In particular though imagine if you're a new local Taliban commander in your 20's who has known only the war against the Infidel and may not even really remember the rule of 1996-01. You have a number of men and weapons at your ready disposal. How much will you be prepared to take orders from some old men living in a different country?

Perhaps polarising was the wrong term to use and instead 'muddled' might better describe the make up. Certainly though it is far, far harder to articulate what the Taliban is now than it was 10 or 15 years ago.

Chuck Stone · 10-10-2012 06:21PM

I see these evil bastards have tried to assassinate a 14 year old Afghan school girl and peace activist.

Pakistani surgeons have removed a bullet from the head of Malala Yousafzai, the 14-year-old schoolgirl and peace activist who was shot by a Taliban gunman on Tuesday.

Relatives of the girl, who rose to fame for her outspoken opposition to Taliban militancy in her home town of Swat, said she appeared to be doing well after a three-hour operation.

source

Is there anything these pieces of **** won't stop at in an attempt to turn Afghanistan into a medieval hell-hole?

Storm 10 · 10-10-2012 06:26PM

I really hope America and its NATO Allies really and I mean really do wipe these pieces of sh1t off the face of this Earth.

Chuck Stone · 10-10-2012 06:31PM

Storm 10 wrote: »

I really hope America and its NATO Allies really and I mean really do wipe these pieces of sh1t off the face of this Earth.

I wish NATO had gone in with real purpose when it had a lot of the world behind it after 9/11.

It was a half-arsed job from very early on.

jugger0 · 10-10-2012 06:31PM

Jaysus if aliens ever got wind of the kinda ****e we get up to down here we'd be in for some baiting

hatrickpatrick · 10-10-2012 06:32PM

The Idyll Race wrote: »

And we can be sure that there will be no shortage of idiots here in Ireland who will make excuses for them.

Do you think so? I highly doubt it myself, I can't see anyone defending this utterly vile behavior.

Sure, there are a lot of people (including myself) who absolutely loathe the West's meddling in the Middle East but that doesn't even for a nanosecond mean siding with a different shower of bastards. IMO, anyone who does is entirely missing the point. A gobsh!te is a gobsh!te, doesn't matter who's "side" he or she is on.

Local-womanizer · 10-10-2012 06:33PM

Storm 10 wrote: »

I really hope America and its NATO Allies really and I mean really do wipe these pieces of sh1t off the face of this Earth.

Unfortunately it's smarter to bring these scum to the table and negotiate with them.

Whether it works or not is a different matter.

Biodegradable Bellend · 10-10-2012 07:37PM

I heard they eat stillborn babies...raw. Can't remember which 'reliable international news agency' it was though. But it's true, I trust everything they tell me. Shure didn't I believe it when the Iraqi soldiers threw babies out of incubators when the same 'reputable international news agencies' told me. That one wasn't true though. It's about 10% truth, the rest is propaganda! Unless it's Fox News...then it's all lies.

meathstevie · 10-10-2012 08:31PM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I see these evil bastards have tried to assassinate a 14 year old Afghan school girl and peace activist.

Is there anything these pieces of **** won't stop at in an attempt to turn Afghanistan into a medieval hell-hole?

Except eating a rasher sandwhich ? Probably not much.

2 Children beheaded by Taliban

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