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Local newspaper like Southside seems very Marixist

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  • #32
    imme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    You'd like the northside version even less OP, the Shinners are in it every week supporting the same kind of person that you mentioned as a regular fixture of the Southside People.


  • #33
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Lol @ the OP who obviously has no clue whatsoever what marxist means

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #34
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Chinasea wrote: »
    3 children at 23 and single is a bit of a mystery to me also.

    I didn't think they had this sort of person on the Southside. Are the 3 children from different fathers?


  • #35
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    I didn't think they had this sort of person on the Southside. Are the 3 children from different fathers?

    Yeah.. that one was a pile of wanky generalisations. There were two kids and no mention of different fathers. But lets not get that get in the way of the flamed torches..


  • #36
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    waulie_palnuts wrote: »
    Shinners and Dole Scroungers take over local rag shocker...

    great first post, can't wait for your second :rolleyes:


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  • #37
    waulie_palnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭waulie_palnuts


    the groutch wrote: »
    great first post, can't wait for your second :rolleyes:

    Groutchy Groutch Grouctherson.


  • #38
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    waulie_palnuts wrote: »
    Groutchy Groutch Grouctherson.


    Yes, Groucho upstaged Karl at every opportunity.


  • #39
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Popular/ AH definitions of Marxism
    • The Lone Parent's Allowance
    • Occupy Dame Street
    • The concept of a 'social floor'
    • Single mothers
    • High taxes
    • The Labour Party
    • Stalin
    • Vincent Browne
    • Synonym for inefficiency
    • Abortion enthusiasm
    • Possibly Mental illness/ lunatics

    What Marxism actually means
    A collection of various social, political and economic doctrines esp. which may be derived from placing greater emphasis on (a) the value of labour over the value of capital along with (b) society's interests over those of individuals or oligarchs.


  • #40
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Lol @ the OP who obviously has no clue whatsoever what marxist means

    To be honest neither do I :(


  • #41
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    It never ceases to amaze me that Boards manages to direct far more ire at ordinary people who abuse the system than at the elite which abuses the system.
    Honestly, there are more threads on Boards bashing welfare claimants than there are threads bashing Sean FitzPatrick and David Drumm. :confused:

    If I had to choose one group or the other to lock up and throw away the key I know damn well which group would be in for it...


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  • #42
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    It never ceases to amaze me that Boards manages to direct far more ire at ordinary people who abuse the system...

    It's not even the ones that are abusing it most of the time. This thread being a prime example.


  • #43
    MaxSteele
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Shryke wrote: »
    Come back, I'll share...



    You're into some expensive stuff. My dinner is potato wedges, I wouldn't afford a handjob.
    Do you pay a lot of tax then, and does her existence anger you more than say the bondholder bailout or the ground up corruption and abuse that's rife in every facet in modern society? Did this poor sow knock you back?

    Wedges are fantastic !

    They both anger me equally.

    Why would she knock me back when she can get another kid out of it ? :D


  • #44
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Wedges are fantastic !

    They both anger me equally.

    Why would she knock me back when she can get another kid out of it ? :D
    What's the going rate per child, €29.80 until the child reaches 14 years of age, is it? And about €35 in child benefit that everybody gets regardless of income? So in or around €65 per week?

    And you really believe that an individual squeezes out sprogs for whatever change they would have out of feeding, clothing, entertaining and raising their growing children on €65 per week?

    All these mothers living the high life from whatever is left over, are they? Helicopter rides, Cap Ferrat, and Moet & Chandon, is it?

    All that work, all that crying, all that babysick, all that effort. Do you see that there might be a credibility problem with this notion?


  • #45
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    imme wrote: »
    You'd like the northside version even less OP, the Shinners are in it every week supporting the same kind of person that you mentioned as a regular fixture of the Southside People.

    Shinners defending wimmin with children? The dirty bastards....they should be proscribed.


  • #46
    Chinasea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    I fail to see the need week after week to highlight the plight of what is, imo, the irresponsible behavior of adults who get them selves into these situations where they demand housing, entitlements, most of whom have NEVER and will never contribute to the society that they demand from.

    The problem is the accepted trend. Moreover this given lack of personal responsibility, which in Ireland cushions you and automatically opts you out from ever having to contribute back in to your society, the very one that props up your questionable lifestyle choices.


  • #47
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    I am far from Left Wing but

    I would like to see any of the critics on this thread step into that girls shoes and bring up two kids on their own with that kind of money at that age

    Biggest mistake she made was being honest with the backward "system"


    No, her biggest mistake was having 2 kids she can't provide for without the help of the state.

    She messed up once. Fair enough it happens, but twice? really, twice?


  • #48
    SuperGrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭SuperGrover


    I'm not really keen on wedges at all. Too mushy. Crispy chips any day for me.


  • #49
    MaxSteele
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    later12 wrote: »
    What's the going rate per child, €29.80 until the child reaches 14 years of age, is it? And about €35 in child benefit that everybody gets regardless of income? So in or around €65 per week?

    And you really believe that an individual squeezes out sprogs for whatever change they would have out of feeding, clothing, entertaining and raising their growing children on €65 per week?

    All these mothers living the high life from whatever is left over, are they? Helicopter rides, Cap Ferrat, and Moet & Chandon, is it?

    All that work, all that crying, all that babysick, all that effort. Do you see that there might be a credibility problem with this notion?

    I'll bite the bullet and say I over exaggerated the whole intention of it. But it's blatantly obvious the type the OP is referring to who make the same "mistake" twice or three times haven't a bull's notion of responsibility.

    And we're not on about your average lone parent who works, get's an education and earns a crust for themselves. I'm talking about that minority who are straight onto the housing list with dole, rent allowance, the whole shabang. While daddy either draws the dole/works himself and claims residency elsewhere.

    I know at least three couples like this and they have it quite comfortable at the moment, believe me.


  • #50
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Chinasea wrote: »
    Does Karl Marx run the paper?

    I don't think you know that much about Karl Marx.


  • #51
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    later12 wrote: »
    Popular/ AH definitions of Marxism
    • The Lone Parent's Allowance
    • Occupy Dame Street
    • The concept of a 'social floor'
    • Single mothers
    • High taxes
    • The Labour Party
    • Stalin
    • Vincent Browne
    • Synonym for inefficiency
    • Abortion enthusiasm
    • Possibly Mental illness/ lunatics

    What Marxism actually means
    A collection of various social, political and economic doctrines esp. which may be derived from placing greater emphasis on (a) the value of labour over the value of capital along with (b) society's interests over those of individuals or oligarchs.


    Steady on there - that's a bit too much education

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #52
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    .........

    I know at least three couples like this and they have it quite comfortable at the moment, believe me.

    O look - a handy anecdote.


  • #53
    MaxSteele
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Nodin wrote: »
    O look - a handy anecdote.

    I swear on my grandfather's grave :confused:


  • #54
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    No, her biggest mistake was having 2 kids she can't provide for without the help of the state.

    She messed up once. Fair enough it happens, but twice? really, twice?

    How do you know she didn't have two kids that she could support until she lost her job? or was deserted?


  • #55
    Fran1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Fran1985


    Boombastic wrote: »
    [
    Karl Marx is dead, so it can't be him

    No he's not. My brother met him in the peoples park. They were havin something to eat. He gave him his manifesto. Karl was real nice about it and said he'll put it to the testo


  • #56
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Chinasea wrote: »
    3 children at 23 and single is a bit of a mystery to me also.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_reproduction


  • #57
    imme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Nodin wrote: »
    Shinners defending wimmin with children? The dirty bastards....they should be proscribed.

    It's always protest stuff that they're involved in Nodin, never constructive issues, never good news stories or community initiatives.


  • #58
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I believe marx wanted the workers of the world to unite. I can't remembering him mentioning non workers?

    I'm withholding judgement on that single mother case that was mentioned until I see exactly what she was assessed on and what the assessment criteria is. We heard it was because she'd admitted to getting 40 a week in maintenance, but we don't know what else she was getting or what the criteria was.

    So she may be a scrounger who's whinging. Or the government could be picking on someone who needs help.


  • #59
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    I swear on my grandfather's grave :confused:

    I swear on my grandfather's grave that I am a unicorn.

    Neiggghhh.

    Neigggghhhh.


  • #60
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    imme wrote: »
    It's always protest stuff that they're involved in Nodin, never constructive issues, never good news stories or community initiatives.

    I would have thought representing single mothers was a constructive initiative and good news in and of itself. Given the level of venom aimed at that group round here, its certainly good they do so.


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  • #61
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    I swear on my grandfather's grave :confused:

    How do I even know he's dead? Bringing anecdotes into arguments is very very rarely a good idea.


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