Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

Jason Todd · 28-08-2012 03:01PM

Why do people think Walcott would be a good fit for us? I'm not saying he's a bad player, but any Arsenal fan I know thinks he's just another overrated Englishman, and in all fairness, what could Rodgers do with him that Wenger hasn't? We need pace in the side, but I haven't seen any pro-Walcott arguments thus far.

Francie Barrett · 28-08-2012 03:01PM

Jesus lads, you're linking us to some pretty dismal group of players. Sturridge, Rhodes and Walcott? Don't want any of them personally, all too expensive for players who certainly aren't certainties. Am happy if Rodgers wants to go under the radar and pick up the likes of Oussama Assaidi for peanuts in the European leagues. At least if they don't work out, we can flog them and get our money back.

Jason Todd · 28-08-2012 03:02PM

Fowler87 wrote: »

Just heard that rafa was on Today FM this morning (not gift grub!).. Interview any good?

Nothing we didn't already know! Ray D'Arcy is not exactly knowledgable about soccer.

Kess73 · 28-08-2012 03:02PM

gafferino wrote: »

Im not a fan of Walcott....too hot and cold IMO. Sturridge looked good from what ive seen but not sure. Would want to be for a decent fee. Does Rodgers know him from his Chelsea days?
I think id prefer Demspey and Afellay. I think dempsey could prove to be a McAllister type signing. Good to have some experience up there.

Rodgers was gone from Chelsea a year or two before Sturridge went to Chelsea.

Dickerty · 28-08-2012 03:03PM

opr wrote: »

barcastuff ‏@barcastuff
Barcelona have agreements with Tottenham, Liverpool, and Schalke on a loan of Ibrahim Afellay (26). Player will make the final choice.

Opr

Let Schalke have him, then they can let Klaas go...

Afellay is one of those players that is unlikely to make it at Barca, so a loan move would be very much with a view to a permanent move somewhere. He's 26 now, needs to be somewhere that he plays every week.

slingerz · 28-08-2012 03:04PM

Dickerty wrote: »

Let Schalke have him, then they can let Klaas go...

Afellay is one of those players that is unlikely to make it at Barca, so a loan move would be very much with a view to a permanent move somewhere. He's 26 now, needs to be somewhere that he plays every week.

Talks that Huntelaar is available regardless of whether they bring in Afellay or not. Rumoured fee is ~£15milion

tok9 · 28-08-2012 03:08PM

AdamD wrote: »

Not really sure how you can rate Borini and not Sturridge, who is probably more proven than him.

Could I just ask in what way do you mean more proven? As in the premier league?

Because it's fair to say that Borini didn't do too badly last season if he was in the Italian squad for the euros who made the final while Sturridge was overlooked in an area I would say England are weak in (someone to partner Rooney).

Kess73 · 28-08-2012 03:08PM

slingerz wrote: »

Talks that Huntelaar is available regardless of whether they bring in Afellay or not. Rumoured fee is ~£15milion

Huntelaar for circa £15m or Sturridge for the same or more?

No brainer which player to go for imho. Quality versus hype.

Dont be at yourself · 28-08-2012 03:10PM

Huntelaar is to decide whether to sign a contract or not on Friday, supposedly. There's going to be a scramble for him if he decides to go -- but I presume clubs have already made their interest known.

Lawrence1895 · 28-08-2012 03:10PM

Huntelaar leaving Sch****? That would be a great signing, he is a decent striker, always a threat in the box.

But I can't see him leaving

Dickerty · 28-08-2012 03:11PM

Jason Todd wrote: »

Why do people think Walcott would be a good fit for us? I'm not saying he's a bad player, but any Arsenal fan I know thinks he's just another overrated Englishman, and in all fairness, what could Rodgers do with him that Wenger hasn't? We need pace in the side, but I haven't seen any pro-Walcott arguments thus far.

-He's only 23, he has 222 games for Arsenal, with 42 goals and 40 assists. That's a bloody good return for a winger.
-He's made over 30 appearances every season (good injury record for someone with his explosive pace).
-His goals/assists record has generally improved every year.
-His record in Europe is better than operall - 44 games, 10 goals & 9 assists. So doesn't just fill his boots against lesser teams.

He may be frustrating, and doesn't always pick the best option, but he's definately improved over his 6 years at Arsenal. I think he'll stay there, and they'll see his best years in his mid 20s...

Kess73 · 28-08-2012 03:12PM

Lars1916 wrote: »

Huntelaar leaving Sch****? That would be a great signing, he is a decent striker, always a threat in the box.

But I can't see him leaving

Be surprised if he left Germany tbh, but if there is a chance that he wants to leave, then not at least trying to reunite him and Suarez would be a mistake imo.

Dickerty · 28-08-2012 03:13PM

Kess73 wrote: »

Huntelaar for circa £15m or Sturridge for the same or more?

No brainer which player to go for imho. Quality versus hype.

100%, but they will also look at age, and wages. I can't imagine Rodgers would not rate Klaas, but lots of moving parts.

Dickerty · 28-08-2012 03:15PM

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

Huntelaar is to decide whether to sign a contract or not on Friday, supposedly.

Why wait until deadline day? Tease...

budgemook · 28-08-2012 03:19PM

Is that barcastuff Twitter account reliable in any way?

Francie Barrett · 28-08-2012 03:19PM

Kess73 wrote: »

Huntelaar for circa £15m or Sturridge for the same or more?

No brainer which player to go for imho. Quality versus hype.

Neither for me. Yes, he does have a terrific record at Schalke, but like I said before, I think Huntelaar would struggle in the Premier League (like he did in Serie A) where defenders are faster than in Germany and generally better in the air.

Hoki · 28-08-2012 03:27PM

Walcott is actually a damn good finisher imo, it's not often he misses when through on goal. Sterling on one wing with Walcott on the other is a frightening combo. Sturridge is overrated and is too slow on the ball (takes an eternity to make a decision).

Jason Todd · 28-08-2012 03:28PM

Dickerty wrote: »

-He's only 23, he has 222 games for Arsenal, with 42 goals and 40 assists. That's a bloody good return for a winger.
-He's made over 30 appearances every season (good injury record for someone with his explosive pace).
-His goals/assists record has generally improved every year.
-His record in Europe is better than operall - 44 games, 10 goals & 9 assists. So doesn't just fill his boots against lesser teams.

He may be frustrating, and doesn't always pick the best option, but he's definately improved over his 6 years at Arsenal. I think he'll stay there, and they'll see his best years in his mid 20s...

Some good points there.

I can't believe he's still that young! Do you think he'd be first-choice for us? How long has he got left on his Arsenal contract?

Lawrence1895 · 28-08-2012 03:29PM

Kess73 wrote: »

Be surprised if he left Germany tbh, but if there is a chance that he wants to leave, then not at least trying to reunite him and Suarez would be a mistake imo.

The problem I see is, that Sch**** have a Dutch manager, he might be very keen on keeping Huntelaar. It might have been easier, if Kuyt was still there, but...

Dickerty · 28-08-2012 03:31PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Neither for me. Yes, he does have a terrific record at Schalke, but like I said before, I think Huntelaar would struggle in the Premier League (like he did in Serie A) where defenders are faster than in Germany and generally better in the air.

God, negative at all?

He didn't get much of a shot at Milan. Boriello and Inzaghi were both picked ahead of him to partner Ronaldinho, then he was pushed out to make way for Ibra.

G.K. · 28-08-2012 03:32PM

budgemook wrote: »

Is that barcastuff Twitter account reliable in any way?

He retweets Barca info from the media. opr's post there was from mundo deportivo.

Dickerty · 28-08-2012 03:34PM

Jason Todd wrote: »

Some good points there. I can't believe he's still that young! Do you think he'd be first-choice for us? How long has he got left on his Arsenal contract?

One year left, and contract negotiations apparently stalling, hence the interest.

He can't be happy that Arsenal keep selling their stars, but they have replaced well this summer so far, and we are not much better...

Nuri Sahin · 28-08-2012 03:36PM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Neither for me. Yes, he does have a terrific record at Schalke, but like I said before, I think Huntelaar would struggle in the Premier League (like he did in Serie A) where defenders are faster than in Germany and generally better in the air.

Huntelaar's game is based on his movement and getting into scoring positions while taking those chances, he was never blessed with blistering pace and talk of needing raw pace to succeed in the EPL is purely a myth. RVN is a similar type of player and he wasn't blessed with pace.

I'd certainly rather have him (Huntelaar) than Sturridge.. or Walcott for that matter. Yes, different positions but I really don't want neither. That despite my issue over his age and how many years we'd get out of him.

Turtyturd · 28-08-2012 03:37PM

Hoki wrote: »

Walcott is actually a damn good finisher imo, it's not often he misses when through on goal. Sterling on one wing with Walcott on the other is a frightening combo. Sturridge is overrated and is too slow on the ball (takes an eternity to make a decision).

Yet oddly enough he always does the same thing, head down run and balloon the shot.:pac:

Jason Todd · 28-08-2012 03:43PM

If we had €15-€18mill for only one player out of Walcott, Sturridge and Huntelaar, you would have to say Klaas every time, would you not?

In terms of age, he doesn't seem to fit FSG's buying policy thus far, but would offer experience, a direct goal threat and his previous relationship with Suarez could only be a good thing.

daithijjj · 28-08-2012 03:44PM

Have ye no consideration lads?, do ye not realise that theres lads in here sick with worry over wages and the balance sheet?. Stop talking about Hun**laar ffs, you'll kill somebody. :rolleyes:

29 yr old on big wages who probably wouldnt go anywhere without an increase. Not for us. If were gonna spend that (:pac:) there are better options imho.

Dickerty · 28-08-2012 03:49PM

Jason Todd wrote: »

In terms of age, he doesn't seem to fit FSG's buying policy thus far

Dempsey is the same age, yet that seems to be firm interest...

Knex* · 28-08-2012 03:50PM

Huntelaar was the 4th top goalscorer in Europe last year, outscoring even Gomez in the Bundesliga.

I'd be fairly confident of a return of 15+ goals from him if he was to join, especially when you consider he'd be reunited with Suarez and also have the likes of Allen and Sahin playing behind him.

Dickerty · 28-08-2012 03:50PM

daithijjj wrote: »

29 yr old on big wages who probably wouldnt go anywhere without an increase. Not for us. If were gonna spend that (:pac:) there are better options imho.

Names please!

Kess73 · 28-08-2012 03:51PM

-Ade- wrote: »

Huntelaar's game is based on his movement and getting into scoring positions while taking those chances, he was never blessed with blistering pace and talk of needing raw pace to succeed in the EPL is purely a myth. RVN is a similar type of player and he wasn't blessed with pace.

I'd certainly rather have him (Huntelaar) than Sturridge.. or Walcott for that matter. Yes, different positions but I really don't want neither. That despite my issue over his age and how many years we'd get out of him.

Totally agree. The idea that you need to be magnificent in the air or uber fast to get past a Premiership defence is a myth. The majority of defenders in the EPL, especially the top clubs, are foreign players anyway so the likes of Huntelaar etc would just be facing the same mix of styles that has been faced elsewhere.

Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

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