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Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

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  • #3152
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Possibly Lucas could be out for two months.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/27/liverpool-thigh-injury-lucas-leiva?newsfeed=true
    Liverpool expect to discover the full extent of Lucas Leiva's injury on Tuesday amid concerns the Brazilian could be out for more than two months with a torn thigh muscle.


  • #3153
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,389 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    the Arsenal business model makes perfect sense ! build a championship winning team , then spend your 200/300 million on a stadium. if paying for the stadium means you sacrifice squad spending (lower league position) then do it when you are no 1 where you can afford to drop 2/3 places and still have CL football. their debt will be soon cleared and they'll buy big again.
    FSG have done things ok . they tried throwing money at the club which dagleish pissed away . that money is gone , spent on LFC. we dont have much to show for it but it has been spent and now theyre taking a new approach . get a young long term manager(BR) whos strengths are spotting and coaching and getting the best from good, cheap young players (allen, borini, sterling) keep your stars (agger) and 'hire' in addiitons where needed(sahin).a good and sound policy!
    i have no doubt that if BR identifyies a top striker that will add their moneys worth to the team that the money will be there. why no doubt ?. because it makes financial sense .
    LFC are one of the very few clubs in england who can build a viable successful club because of its fanbase and name. if BR can deliver then LFC will be at the very top (and there to stay) in a few short years. for every man city/chelsea there is a leeds/portsmouth/rangers sosteady wins the race


  • #3154
    klose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,327 ✭✭✭✭klose


    NukaCola wrote: »
    whippedcream wrote: »
    It's from the mirrors back story tomorow that we're bidding 15mill for him.

    Make of that what you will.

    Sturridge..............shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot......he's one of the most selfish player in the EPL......

    Yeah, big no no for me. If we do sign a strikers I doubt he will be from the pl or a marquee signing. An assaidi up front kinda deal..


  • #3155
    Town Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭Town Man


    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    What a ridiculous comment to be fair.

    The only way Liverpool could ever be contenders for the EPL is if someone came in and pumped the club full of money.

    Earning it the way your suggesting isn't possible for a mid-table English club like Liverpool in the modern era.

    thought there was a bet made 2 weeks ago...................

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80219982&postcount=7145


  • #3156
    NukaCola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    djPSB wrote: »
    Not you, Llyod.

    He is living in fantasy land with the fairies as both you and Kess pointed out in the last few posts.

    I think the guy should take a break from this thread, and maybe football in general......his health is clearly at risk........i can see an Aneurysm coming on........it was funny at first, now its just sad.......


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  • #3157
    BeepBeep67
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    Liverpool fear thigh injury could sideline Lucas Leiva for two months
    The Guardian


  • #3158
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Possibly Lucas could be out for two months.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/27/liverpool-thigh-injury-lucas-leiva?newsfeed=true

    Terrible. He just came back from a major injury :confused:


  • #3159
    woodyg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭woodyg


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Possibly Lucas could be out for two months.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/27/liverpool-thigh-injury-lucas-leiva?newsfeed=true

    ah Feck it!
    happens a lot when player comes back from a long term injury that he picks up muscle strains.

    I'm staying well clear of the FSG debate till at least the end of the Season as they are doing ok in my book. The club has a lot to rebuild which takes time.


  • #3160
    gaelicred
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭gaelicred


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Possibly Lucas could be out for two months.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/27/liverpool-thigh-injury-lucas-leiva?newsfeed=true[/QUOTE]

    Bloody hell


  • #3161
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Possibly Lucas could be out for two months.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/27/liverpool-thigh-injury-lucas-leiva?newsfeed=true
    Liverpool expect to discover the full extent of Lucas Leiva's injury on Tuesday amid concerns the Brazilian could be out for more than two months with a torn thigh muscle.

    2 months isn't disastrous considering the seriousness of his previous injury and when you take into consideration that we have good cover.

    When this happened last season, it meant 2 months playing time for Spearing.


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  • #3162
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Jason Todd wrote: »
    The optimism from yesterday didn't last long, did it? :o
    gaelicred wrote: »
    It never does

    Well posters are being called out for wanting a sugar daddy and being told that the club needs to be self sufficient in the long term.

    Yet, on the other hand, those concerned with the clubs direction are seemingly expected to be reverse their views after one decent game?


  • #3163
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    I love it when Lloyd is called up on a point and has no reply so vanishes. Kess, don't expect a response to that FA Cup post anytime soon.


  • #3164
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    djPSB wrote: »
    2 months isn't disastrous considering the seriousness of his previous injury and when you take into consideration that we have good cover.

    When this happened last season, it meant 2 months playing time for Spearing.

    Nuri Sahin could possibly step in, he played on that position for Borussia Dortmund already, afaik


  • #3165
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,938 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    WTF is going on in this thread?

    Two years ago, LFC was staring into the abyss of administration and its very existence hung by a thread.

    Now 22 months after NESV/FSG saved us, their perceived non-investment is being seen as non ambitious and disastrous when compared to almost 20 years of Moores & H&G..

    It's a joke, as it was Moores & H&G's combined actions that destroyed the club.

    I really think they should be given a chance to implement their plan. We're at the very start of a new road and I don't see what they have done wrong.

    Stadium will be resolved, revenues will increase and money will be available for players when finances are sorted.

    I just find the posts in here to be just baseless panic and scaremongering.


  • #3166
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    Well posters are being called out for wanting a sugar daddy and being told that the club needs to be self sufficient in the long term.

    Yet, on the other hand, those concerned with the clubs direction are seemingly expected to be reverse their views after one decent game?

    I have heard no one concerned at the clubs direction post an alternative and realistic approach.


  • #3167
    willmunny1990
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    Town Man wrote: »
    thought there was a bet made 2 weeks ago...................

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80219982&postcount=7145

    Read on from the link you quoted, he didn't take the bet in end.


  • #3168
    Augmerson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Why haven't we signed Heskey yet?


  • #3169
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    djPSB wrote: »
    2 months isn't disastrous considering the seriousness of his previous injury and when you take into consideration that we have good cover.

    When this happened last season, it meant 2 months playing time for Spearing.

    Nuri Sahin could possibly step in, he played on that position for Borussia Dortmund already, afaik

    Both Allen and Henderson can do the job as well.


  • #3170
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    whatawaster wrote: »
    I have heard no one concerned at the clubs direction post an alternative and realistic approach.

    So a lack of suggested alternatives renders any concerns raised obsolete by default? Really?


  • #3171
    daithijjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj


    whatawaster wrote: »
    What's your plan?

    What would you have done with the squad this summer and going forward?

    1) Cut costs?
    2) Try to increase revenues?
    3) Spend what we don't have (debt) in the hope of making CL?
    4) New owners who are willing to pump tens of millions of their own money into the club

    My plan would have been to not panic like a schoolgirl waiting in line to see One Direction and given Kenny Dalglish more than one season. I personally feel Kennys main issue was getting the team to score goals and Carroll showed signs he had turned things around, now he is no mans land and any possible fruition of the Carroll xfer is gone.

    I wouldnt have been pictured with Martinez one day and the next telling everyone that a man with one season in the EPL was our "First choice". If i had even the first idea about football i wouldnt have given that man full control, i would have appointed a DOF that was not Ian Ayre.

    I have repeatedly said that i have no complaints with off the pitch. What i do have complaints about is my chairman telling me on LFCTV that he wants to increase wages but doesnt back it up. Sure, we want better value for those wages. So i expect the club to offer the released wages to better players.

    Its grand talking about debt, debt is not a new thing, football clubs are loss making in the majority not the minority, were you worried about Moores offering players contracts when he had the club in minor debt?, were you worried about the club offering Torres big wages when he signed?.

    These owners can sh1t or get off the pot as far as im concerned. But by all means, slip into the mid table malaise if you wish to do so without asking too many intrusive questions. Thats how Moores lasted so long and why LFC failed, slowly but surely.


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  • #3172
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Melion wrote: »
    I love it when Lloyd is called up on a point and has no reply so vanishes. Kess, don't expect a response to that FA Cup post anytime soon.


    He will reply. Sometimes he does so after a few minutes, sometimes it takes a a number of hours. As with all of us, it just depends on what is going on irl.


  • #3173
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    So a lack of suggested alternatives renders any concerns raised obsolete by default? Really?

    No, but it weakens their argument imo. And when posters who have no alternative and don't want to admit the reality of our finances say there should be a revolt, then I'm left scratching my head.

    Is football about either winning titles/full-scale riots? With no middle ground?


  • #3174
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Kess73 wrote: »
    He will reply. Sometimes he does so after a few minutes, sometimes it takes a a number of hours. As with all of us, it just depends on what is going on irl.

    I'd have a hefty wager that he either won't reply or if he does it won't be worth reading because it won't actually address the pointyout made.


  • #3175
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    It's a pity that Llyod has lost his marbles so badly.

    He used to be one of the best well balanced posters on here.


  • #3176
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    djPSB wrote: »
    It's a pity that Llyod has lost his marbles so badly.

    He used to be one of the best well balanced posters on here.

    I 100% agree


  • #3177
    NukaCola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,983 ✭✭✭✭NukaCola


    LL is entitled to his opinions like the rest of us.


  • #3178
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,938 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Melion wrote: »
    I'd have a hefty wager that he either won't reply or if he does it won't be worth reading because it won't actually address the pointyout made.

    In fairness to Lloyd, disagree or not, he always replies and argues his point.


  • #3179
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    daithijjj wrote: »
    We will have to wait and see what happens with that as its not clear we will be moving anywhere yet.

    Whether we move or not is irrelevant, you just don't get it. FFPR is irrelevant to the stadium issue, whether we move or refurbish. It still costs money to do either, money that will effect transfer spend, Arsenal had/have the same problem.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #3180
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    daithijjj wrote: »
    My plan would have been to not panic like a schoolgirl waiting in line to see One Direction and given Kenny Dalglish more than one season. I personally feel Kennys main issue was getting the team to score goals and Carroll showed signs he had turned things around, now he is no mans land and any possible fruition of the Carroll xfer is gone.

    I wouldnt have been pictured with Martinez one day and the next telling everyone that a man with one season in the EPL was our "First choice". If i had even the first idea about football i wouldnt have given that man full control, i would have appointed a DOF that was not Ian Ayre.

    I have repeatedly said that i have no complaints with off the pitch. What i do have complaints about is my chairman telling me on LFCTV that he wants to increase wages but doesnt back it up. Sure, we want better value for those wages. So i expect the club to offer the released wages to better players.

    Its grand talking about debt, debt is not a new thing, football clubs are loss making in the majority not the minority, were you worried about Moores offering players contracts when he had the club in minor debt?, were you worried about the club offering Torres big wages when he signed?.

    These owners can sh1t or get off the pot as far as im concerned. But by all means, slip into the mid table malaise if you wish to do so without asking too many intrusive questions. Thats how Moores lasted so long and why LFC failed, slowly but surely.

    So stick with Kenny was your plan. Grand, at least it's the beginnings of a plan. It's something


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  • #3181
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    murpho999 wrote: »
    In fairness to Lloyd, disagree or not, he always replies and argues his point.

    There has been quite a few times this summer where i've called him out on something and didn't get a reply.


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