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A new city..

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  • #32
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    PieForPi wrote: »
    Girls, don't get upset because I didn't play pretend with your dressed up little towns. I'm sure they've all lovely bottoms, except Limerick's who we all know is covered in blood.

    Ah shure Dublin is a backwater compared to most European capitals.

    Fucking culchie Dubs. Ye must look like a pack of straw chewing droolers when ye go abroad.

    DUCWIDT?


  • #33
    delad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭delad


    Could they not just start building high rise buildings in Dublin? Then slowly and gradually start tearing down all the apartment buildings outside the city centre, with their current residents moving to new apartments in the city? Siptu have planning permission to tear down their current building and replace it with a new high rise building, and U2's tower got planning permission years ago so I don't think there's anything stopping the development of further high rise buildings in the city centre?

    Mind you if you were to build a new city it would be best to do it around the centre of Ireland, and have a new airport there. This means that wherever you are travelling to from the airport your journey time will be reletively small, compared to the current international airport which is in an inconvenient position for the majority of Ireland.


  • #34
    dr.bollocko
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    mod:

    Pieforpi don't post in this thread again.

    No more of the dub vs. everywhere else crap from here on out please.

    Fair warning.


  • #35
    El_Dangeroso
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    Planned towns/cities are always a terrible idea. I give you Shannon or Milton Keynes as examples.

    The best cities are always ones that grow organically and as such have their own culture/community/identity. You can't create a culture out of thin air.


  • #36
    delad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭delad


    El_Dangeroso wrote: »
    Planned towns/cities are always a terrible idea. I give you Shannon or Milton Keynes as examples.

    The best cities are always ones that grow organically and as such have their own culture/community/identity. You can't create a culture out of thin air.

    Planned cities like Melbourne regularly get voted as the best places in the world to live.


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  • #37
    El_Dangeroso
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    delad wrote: »
    Planned cities like Melbourne regularly get voted as the best places in the world to live.

    I have lived in Melbourne. The city has no discernible soul. It's all horrible suburb after horrible suburb.


  • #38
    ScumLord
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    El_Dangeroso wrote: »
    Planned towns/cities are always a terrible idea. I give you Shannon or Milton Keynes as examples.

    The best cities are always ones that grow organically and as such have their own culture/community/identity. You can't create a culture out of thin air.
    Planning of cities has been happening for century's it's just that the original planners often don't factor in how modern advances will change things. The other thing is you can't find out what doesn't work until you try it. So all our failed plan cities are lessons towards new cities. The fact is also that there is major planning in the UK and most European cities, everything is planned out to the finest detail and the only thing organic about the growth is the driving factors behind the building.


  • #39
    delad
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    El_Dangeroso wrote: »
    I have lived in Melbourne. The city has no discernible soul. It's all horrible suburb after horrible suburb.

    Thats just like, your opinion man. I lived in the city for 3 years and it was the best place I've ever been. The city is an absolute joy to live in. Getting anywhere is so easy. Everything has its own little area and place. There is an arts district, a sports district with all their stadiums, even the shopping areas are well laid out with all computer shops together, all clothes shops together etc.. Each of the suburbs have their own unique feel and vibe. Everything just works as it should in Melbourne.


  • #40
    El_Dangeroso
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    Planning of cities has been happening for century's it's just that the original planners often don't factor in how modern advances will change things. The other thing is you can't find out what doesn't work until you try it. So all our failed plan cities are lessons towards new cities. The fact is also that there is major planning in the UK and most European cities, everything is planned out to the finest detail and the only thing organic about the growth is the driving factors behind the building.

    Planning the expansion of existing cities is a different thing to creating a new one out of thin air.


  • #41
    El_Dangeroso
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    delad wrote: »
    Thats just like, your opinion man. I lived in the city for 3 years and it was the best place I've ever been. The city is an absolute joy to live in. Getting anywhere is so easy. Everything has its own little area and place. There is an arts district, a sports district with all their stadiums, even the shopping areas are well laid out with all computer shops together, all clothes shops together etc.. Each of the suburbs have their own unique feel and vibe. Everything just works as it should in Melbourne.

    I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree. Actually is Melbourne even a planned city in the true sense of the word? I though Canberra was but Melbourne not.


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  • #42
    el diablo
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    delad wrote: »
    Thats just like, your opinion man. I lived in the city for 3 years and it was the best place I've ever been. The city is an absolute joy to live in. Getting anywhere is so easy. Everything has its own little area and place. There is an arts district, a sports district with all their stadiums, even the shopping areas are well laid out with all computer shops together, all clothes shops together etc.. Each of the suburbs have their own unique feel and vibe. Everything just works as it should in Melbourne.

    And the trams are free. :p

    Orange pilled.



  • #43
    Sulla Felix
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    I vote for the hill of tara. We already fscked it up, might as well finish the job.


  • #44
    Mully_2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭Mully_2011


    Sulla Felix wrote: »
    I vote for the hill of tara. We already fscked it up, might as well finish the job.

    Or you could just slap up a few skyscrapers in Navan


  • #45
    Colmustard
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    A certain phenomena is happening ATM, the growth of the Mega City a city of 10 million plus mainly happening in the Far East. But you also have dying cities which is happening in North America and parts of Europe.


  • #46
    Sulla Felix
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    Colmustard wrote: »
    A certain phenomena is happening ATM, the growth of the Mega City a city of 10 million plus mainly happening in the Far East. But you also have dying cities which is happening in North America and parts of Europe.
    Dredd is gonna kick our asses for sure.


  • #47
    usernamegoes
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    Interesting idea about creating new cities on Ted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSHBma0Ithk

    The PDs also had an interesting idea for Dublin Port
    http://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/from-2006-a-new-heart-for-dublin-progressive-democrat-proposals-for-a-new-high-rise-quarter-where-dublin-port-was-with-great-pics/


  • #48
    Colmustard
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    Sulla Felix wrote: »
    Dredd is gonna kick our asses for sure.

    They could do with an army of Dredds in Mexico city 22 million people and a right crime ridden kip.


  • #49
    The J Stands for Jay
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    galwayrush wrote: »
    Craigavon combined with the population of some nearby towns is still smaller.

    Couldn't quite remember, and was too lazy to check.


  • #50
    Aard
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    El_Dangeroso wrote: »
    Planned towns/cities are always a terrible idea. I give you Shannon or Milton Keynes as examples.

    The best cities are always ones that grow organically and as such have their own culture/community/identity. You can't create a culture out of thin air.
    Though I wouldn't call them a terrible idea, you're right that planned cities/towns lack a cultural identity. It's the same if you build a new town, or if you greatly increase the population of a village, or even build a new large-scale city-district. Loads of people all move in at the same time. Generally all their kids leave the house at the same time, then they all die at the same time. Yes this is a huge exaggeration, but it's not too far off the truth. The result is that it usually takes at least a generation for these new areas to mesh with the existing hinterland.

    So while there are a fair few negatives to building new towns/areas, let's not forget that populations are still rising and these people need somewhere to go. We can either do it estate-by-estate (sprawl, essentially), or we can plan. I'm not saying that new towns are universally well-planned, not in the least. But I do think that we will be seeing more of them in the future. (Most likely in the form of huge expansions of existing villages -- like Milton Keynes.) The trick then is to make sure it's done right, and not just thrown together with fancy marketing, like Adamstown.


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