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The Immortals - A new way to protest?

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  • #32
    griffdaddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    Say what you like about the Germans, they make exceedingly good pornography.


  • #33
    mrduffy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭mrduffy


    alastair wrote: »
    Standard racist right-wing/neo-nazi fare with a twist of social network and copycat Anonymous stylings.

    are you certain this is true ? mainstream media seem to call any opposition to multiculturalism on their neighbourhoods as what you say ! Do you think multiculturalism is equal over the world ?


  • #34
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    mrduffy wrote: »
    are you certain this is true ? mainstream media seem to call any opposition to multiculturalism on their neighbourhoods as what you say ! Do you think multiculturalism is equal over the world ?

    Oh they're racist neo-nazis alright: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fgesellschaft%2Fzeitgeschehen%2F2012-03%2Funsterbliche-flashmobs-neonazis-bautzen

    Nice attempt to deflect all the same.


  • #35
    Casillas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Casillas


    I'm not too sure how people on this small island could remain anonymous with marches like that.

    It'd be advertised on boards, we'd organise buses from local towns, we'd upload instagram photos of ourselves in the pub beforehand onto FB - afterwards we'll vote FF again cause' what's the alternative...


  • #36
    PseudoFamous
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    RDM_83 again wrote: »
    Balaclavas could be considered as possessing "items for use in terrorism" AFAIK

    I own a balaclava for snowboarding/skiing, now I'm a terrorist. Great.


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  • #37
    mrduffy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭mrduffy


    alastair wrote: »
    Oh they're racist neo-nazis alright: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fgesellschaft%2Fzeitgeschehen%2F2012-03%2Funsterbliche-flashmobs-neonazis-bautzen

    Nice attempt to deflect all the same.

    I agree from reading source, I just never heard of anoynomous like this I though they were on internet hacking sites and other stuff.


  • #38
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ...By the way, they have been found guilt its been announced - of "Religious Hatred".

    http://www.thejournal.ie/pussy-riot-found-guilty-of-hoolganism-motivated-by-religious-hatred-562084-Aug2012/

    Piss poor excuse - found guilt on nothing to do with religion. They were protesting against the thug Putin.


  • #39
    Trine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Trine


    If this happened in Ireland, it would involve about 12 teenage protesters, not wearing the same mask, milling around in an unorganised fashion.

    Yet they'd still put the apocalyptic music on top of it, making it even more ridiculous.


  • #40
    marshbaboon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭marshbaboon


    Those zany Germans and their white supremacy :rolleyes:


  • #41
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    The guys are morons. Everyone knows if you're going to do a masked protest you wear guy fawkes masks...

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  • #42
    Real Life
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    they're lucky they're not in south africa


  • #43
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    marshbaboon wrote: »
    Those zany Germans and their white supremacy :rolleyes:
    Not just the Germans, though they're the go to whipping boys for it. Damn near every nation said Germans rolled into in WW2 were only too happy to give up their own people considered not quite "ours". The Swedes were using forced sterilisations for "undesirable" people until the 1970's.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #44
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    This group is deliberately re-creating the kinds of night marches and intimidation tactics used during the Third Reich and by the Ku Klux Klan. Nothing new here under the sun except for the numpty on his mobile phone while leading the march.

    On a different note, I hate cowardly right-wingers who try to intimidate others while hiding their own identity - the Klan being a prime example. Take the masks off and stand over your beliefs.


  • #45
    I am pie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    southsiderosie wrote: »
    This group is deliberately re-creating the kinds of night marches and intimidation tactics used during the Third Reich and by the Ku Klux Klan. Nothing new here under the sun except for the numpty on his mobile phone while leading the march.

    On a different note, I hate cowardly right-wingers who try to intimidate others while hiding their own identity - the Klan being a prime example. Take the masks off and stand over your beliefs.

    True, especially when they are allegedly trying to protect German national identity, by hiding their identity.


  • #46
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    *shudder*

    A load of extreme right-wing racists carrying burning torches through a street in Germany. 'Kristallnacht' was the first word to spring to mind.


  • #47
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Given that the OP listed these cowards as 'patriots', I have to wonder if the whole point of this thread was to get publicity for a cause he supports. Because I don't see much else to discuss here, other than the frightening normalization of far-right parties and organizations in countries that should know better, given their relatively recent histories - and that was clearly not the intent.


  • #48
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    southsiderosie wrote: »
    Given that the OP listed these cowards as 'patriots', I have to wonder if the whole point of this thread was to get publicity for a cause he supports. Because I don't see much else to discuss here, other than the frightening normalization of far-right parties and organizations in countries that should know better, given their relatively recent histories - and that was clearly not the intent.

    The OP is a racist. No great mystery about his intent.


  • #49
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything




    reminds me of



    If you have to hide your face it stands to reason you are ashamed of something.


  • #50
    Wibbs
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    alastair wrote: »
    The OP is a racist. No great mystery about his intent.
    Bit strong, don't you think? Easy word to throw around mind you. For me it's often as lazy as the guff the racist types chuck out.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #51
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Bit strong, don't you think? Easy word to throw around mind you. For me it's often as lazy as the guff the racist types chuck out.

    Nothing lazy about it - completely accurate summation of his own position - read his posts.


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  • #52
    LoYL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭LoYL


    The Immortals were Persian infantry. http://www.livius.org/ia-in/immortals/immortals.html
    Their most famous battle was their engagement at Thermopylae where they eventually through treachery overcame the 300 Spartans of Leonidas.
    The Immortals were trying to force tyranny and dictatorship on the Greek states; Leonidas fought for Sparta but also helped to save the Greek democratic states. The multiple ironies will be lost on the right wingers who march in Germany under the banner of the Immortals.


  • #53
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    mrduffy wrote: »
    I agree from reading source, I just never heard of anoynomous like this I though they were on internet hacking sites and other stuff.

    These people aren't anything to do with Anonymous - they're a far-right wannabe group.


  • #54
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Bit strong, don't you think? Easy word to throw around mind you. For me it's often as lazy as the guff the racist types chuck out.

    Welcome to false equivalence theatre everyone!


  • #55
    marshbaboon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭marshbaboon


    We should just put all these racists in a big death camp somewhere...


  • #56
    IrishAm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    southsiderosie wrote: »
    This group is deliberately re-creating the kinds of night marches and intimidation tactics used during the Third Reich and by the Ku Klux Klan. Nothing new here under the sun except for the numpty on his mobile phone while leading the march.

    On a different note, I hate cowardly right-wingers who try to intimidate others while hiding their own identity - the Klan being a prime example. Take the masks off and stand over your beliefs.

    The leader of the group did. El Weirdo posted the video of him, earlier in the thread. He attended a political debate, live on TV. The presenter asks the audience "anyone here vote far-right?" he screams up "me". She asks him up to defend his views and he lost his job the next day. So he set up his own IT company and is now a millionaire.

    Some coward.:pac:


  • #57
    Wibbs
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    hooradiation wrote: »
    Welcome to false equivalence theatre everyone!
    No. I simply take issue with one member insulting another member without links to back up the insult involved. Hey if he's a racist gobshíte I'll be happy to hold the pitchforks, but I prefer innocent until proven otherwise.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #58
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Wibbs wrote: »
    No. I simply take issue with one member insulting another member without links to back up the insult involved. Hey if he's a racist gobshíte I'll be happy to hold the pitchforks, but I prefer innocent until proven otherwise.
    Europe is the homeland of the white man. Educated or non educated non whites will never feel that they truly belong here.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80180034&postcount=63

    Honestly - just check his posts. He's an unabashed racist.


  • #59
    Tym
    Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Tym


    In all honesty, the look of that march is one step short of the KKK.


  • #60
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    IrishAm wrote: »
    The leader of the group did. El Weirdo posted the video of him, earlier in the thread. He attended a political debate, live on TV. The presenter asks the audience "anyone here vote far-right?" he screams up "me". She asks him up to defend his views and he lost his job the next day. So he set up his own IT company and is now a millionaire.

    Some coward.:pac:

    One person out of a crowd of two hundred? Wow, that really negates my point. :rolleyes:


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  • #61
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Given the record of the Far right in this country, they couldn't organise a bog standard mob, let alone a flash one.


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