Motors Chat Thread Round 1

Matt Simis · 14-08-2012 10:44PM

Limerick man wrote: »

Mx5s are cool and all but they have nothing on a cam. Plus the fact that the mx5 looks like a girla car, cam doesn't.

But really? Other than classic-ness (like the E30 M3s going for 15-18k when an E46 is half that) how do they really compare in the pure, cold, factual technicalities of it all?

Being a great drift car doesnt impress me much (drift != driving), but surely something like a Silvia is a better one? Or a tuned and lightweight 350z.. with of which could easily be bought at some of these 'Cam budgets. Its not made of magic, its made of crusty old Jap parts.

14-08-2012 10:51PM

ShadowHearth wrote: »

why is he gone, and wherE?

Closed Account

L-M · 14-08-2012 10:57PM

I'm not a "driver". I have never kept a fast car as i know fot a fact i would have killed myself or others when i was younger. I did some stupid things in my early driving days in a Polo, and i decided i didn't want that power thing.

Hence my love for vintage/mercs/diesels/ etc etc.

If i had more cash flow theres no doubt i would have a Range Rover,worked with them fkrbfour years and i love them, i'd never buy a car for how it drove in a sense of the real driving factor, where can you "drive" a car here?

14-08-2012 11:03PM

Limerick man wrote: »

........ where can you "drive" a car here?

McDonalds car park :rolleyes:

ShadowHearth · 14-08-2012 11:05PM

RoverJames wrote: »

Closed Account

i figured that much, captain obvious!

i mean reason for it?

and whats with this closing accounts thing? its not ESB...... if you dont want to post, just dont, but its always handy to have account open for some info or when you bored.

14-08-2012 11:07PM

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i figured that much, captain obvious! i mean reason for it? .....

Apologies

Don't have any idea why the chap closed his account.

Stheno · 14-08-2012 11:14PM

I got my car back with a new crank sensor and the airbag warning light gone.

Been away with work, first time driving it tonight in about three weeks.

It made me smile

Matt Simis · 14-08-2012 11:46PM

Limerick man wrote: »

I'm not a "driver". I have never kept a fast car as i know fot a fact i would have killed myself or others when i was younger. I did some stupid things in my early driving days in a Polo, and i decided i didn't want that power thing.

Hence my love for vintage/mercs/diesels/ etc etc.

If i had more cash flow theres no doubt i would have a Range Rover,worked with them fkrbfour years and i love them, i'd never buy a car for how it drove in a sense of the real driving factor, where can you "drive" a car here?

Ive nearly always had big power cars from L Plate days and so has most of my family. I generally didnt do stupid things in small cars (though obviously Im not proposing Im some posterboy for the RSA) when younger. My vintage Merc is a 5.6litre V8.. you can easily have your cake and eat it.
I find I can drive pretty much how I want on my commute, it just happens the way I want isnt off the wall bat$hit crazy and the roads nearly empty so we are all cool with that.

Anyhow, what relation is the above to TwinCams? Cos if they arent powerful at all, arent nice or good drivers cars and you cannot drift around the public roads.. all thats left is a some teary eye'd old track car. And the track car world is pretty packed with vastly superior purpose built track toys (Atoms, X-Bows, Catherhams, track DC2's, variety of Porsches, kit cars etc etc). Is that what we/you are saying makes TwinCams so great? With the off the wall pricing, they couldnt even be called a poor mans track car!

Thats a smaller scope than even I thought! A more focused question and answer would be why you state "the MX5 has nothing on a Cam".. whats the magic sauce are we all missing here!?

CianRyan · 15-08-2012 12:06AM

Generally I don't like to do the footwork for people, I think they should go out and find everything for themselves but anyway, there's a lot to be said about a 10k RPM 230bhp engine in a car that weighs as little as an AE86, true this is a specific race engine but an awful lot of the real 86 heads are running engines just like this.
They've also got a short wheel base and a cracking suspension set up right out of the factory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0OuFegTbNw

Now, 230BHP from a big 5.6l V8 doesn't sounds like a lot when you can have it from a 1.6 4 cylinder, does it?

Ardennes1944 · 15-08-2012 02:19AM

Can I ask what the idea of having to put your foot on the clutch to start a new car is for? Is it to stop the chance of starting it in gear by accident? I always thought having the clutch engaged when starting put more pressure on the car and made it harder to start.

Foxhole Norman · 15-08-2012 02:45AM

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Oh before I forget. Best of luck tomorrow with your LC resuslts Foxhole. Oh and drink sensibly.... Dont fecking spill it. :pac:

Thanks man, appreciate it

. Not too bothered if I do badly to be honest. Lots more options out there.

Northern Monkey · 15-08-2012 08:05AM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

We must have mixed in different circles so!

For sure I remember lads grumbling in 2002 how a '5 grand car was now 7 grand' after the euro changeover when people were still trying to grasp it. Ok, I might have been a bit ahead of myself with mid-nineties but they were definitely fetching big enough money by the end of the nineties.

I bought one in 97 for £2,000, I think it was the early 00's that they started to rise.

15-08-2012 08:25AM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Thanks man, appreciate it . Not too bothered if I do badly to be honest. Lots more options out there.

indeed, enjoy the celebrations anyway.

pred racer · 15-08-2012 09:26AM

Just back from paris with 2 of my kids, epic weekend (fri-tues) btw anyone tempted to go to eurodisney, dont bother, go to parc asterix instead. 20 mins from charles de gaul airport, half the price and absolutely fantastic!
My son William got up on a wakeboard too

I was driving my bosses x5 while The kids were over, as my daughter would say "me no likey" its fast enough I suppose but you really have to cane it, it guzzles diesel, the gearbox is like stirring a barrel of porridge and the parking sensors drove me nuts(is there some way to switch them off permenantly? I couldnt find it) however it did stop twingos trying to cut me up on the perepheriqe

Matt Simis · 15-08-2012 11:08AM

CianRyan wrote: »

Now, 230BHP from a big 5.6l V8 doesn't sounds like a lot when you can have it from a 1.6 4 cylinder, does it?

No but:

Who cares, one is a V8.
I dont have a 230bhp V8, so Im not sure what that is in reference to anyhow and Im not getting into another boards.ie lets divide Litres by BHP and declare a unicorn conversation.
Comparing a near vintage road engine to a race engine? Might as well compare it to a Hayabusa engined AE86.
I doubt the AE86 or the race engine are free. For the what, 12 grand that would cost you could have supercharged that old V8 to hundreds more BHP and bought a second one as a spare.

Its a non-nonsensical comparison and further makes the AE86 love-in look like pillow talk. My comparisons to Silvias and tracked out 350z's made oodles more sense, go make the case the AE86 is a better car than them.

PS:
This one looks quite good (though miles from 230bhp, but anyhow):
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3568088

This one not so much, why is it priced more for what seems like a lot less?
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3731654

15-08-2012 11:12AM

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Can I ask what the idea of having to put your foot on the clutch to start a new car is for? Is it to stop the chance of starting it in gear by accident? I always thought having the clutch engaged when starting put more pressure on the car and made it harder to start.

always started any manual I had in gear aside from when doing the test, dunno how it would put pressure on the car etc tbh.

cgal093 · 15-08-2012 11:12AM

Two scumbags broke into my Dads car last night! :mad:

A neighbor saw it happening so we have a pretty good idea of who it was..

Atomic Pineapple · 15-08-2012 11:22AM

pred racer wrote: »

Just back from paris with 2 of my kids, epic weekend (fri-tues) btw anyone tempted to go to eurodisney, dont bother, go to parc asterix instead. 20 mins from charles de gaul airport, half the price and absolutely fantastic!

I doubt I'll ever visit France again but in case I do that place looks the business, nice recommendation!

ShadowHearth · 15-08-2012 11:23AM

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cgal093 · 15-08-2012 11:25AM

^^^

That looks DEADLY

15-08-2012 11:27AM

.... you happy with them? DOg looks like a great lad.

ShadowHearth · 15-08-2012 11:30AM

OSI wrote: »

Needs moar low! But the wheels look good

thats the plan. one shock is fudged, so i am thinking of getting a new set of coilovers for it and just slightly put it lower. no stupid hellaflush stuff though.

it was awile since i drove mx5 and god how fun it was!!! Everything about it just so much fun! driving position, feel of speed, response, gear shifts, handling.
and yes, its a lot more fun as drivers car, then WRX. :P

ShadowHearth · 15-08-2012 11:31AM

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ShadowHearth · 15-08-2012 11:33AM

RoverJames wrote: »

.... you happy with them? DOg looks like a great lad.

i am. i did not expected them too look that good, but in person they just look great. not too extreme from the last ones too, they blend in nicely.

i want to get blue lock nuts too. should look even better.

p.s. ah he is, cheeky little fecker, but still very lovely dog. he is too good and tolerant, even bastard cats try to jump on him. He is brave when one of us near him though

15-08-2012 11:38AM

HAppy out, they don't look extreme at all, you could nearly tell someone they were a factory special and they might believe you :pac:
They look great, for whatever reason I thought you were getting really wide ones with stretched tyres.

langdang · 15-08-2012 11:39AM

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Can I ask what the idea of having to put your foot on the clutch to start a new car is for? Is it to stop the chance of starting it in gear by accident? I always thought having the clutch engaged when starting put more pressure on the car and made it harder to start.

Always did it the other way (clutch pressed) as was usually trying to squeeze another while out of a battery or something - removing the gearbox from the equation takes away some of the mass that the starter motor would have to accelerate otherwise.
How would it put more stress on the car?

langdang · 15-08-2012 11:42AM

OSI wrote: »

Needs moar low! But the wheels look good

It's North Cork -even the supposedly main road is a cattle track (Limerick - Cork). :mad: :mad:

The dog knows semaphore, that's pretty cool. Like the wheels too.

dar83 · 15-08-2012 11:42AM

@SH: It looks like a Dune Buggy now.

L-M · 15-08-2012 11:47AM

Has anyone seen/heard of the red Mx5 that's going around Limerick?

It's red with a red hardtop and it's sitting on the ground on lovely wheels. Probably the coolest modern car in the country!

Shadow that looks very good, as James said they look OEM.

ShadowHearth · 15-08-2012 11:49AM

OSI wrote: »

That was his original plan, but there were NCT concerns.

yup. i would need arches rolled and do that stupid negative camber bull****. these are still wider then stock. 15x7 and stock are 15x6.5. they perfectly fill in in arches, so the only thing it needs a very mild lowering.

Roverjames, i agree m8. they do look really neutral and could pass for stock wheels for someone who does not know it.

ill take better pics later, its a fecking storm in cork today. :mad:

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