Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

Seaneh · 14-08-2012 09:49PM

Where do Barca plan on playing him?

Do they need a new kitman or something?

If he moves he's an idiot, he'll be competing with two other established players for one spot (Sergio and Masch) and be 3rd choice centre back probably.

LostBoy101 · 14-08-2012 09:53PM

Song would be far better off at Arsenal where he'll get more games than sitting on the bench most of time at Barca. The reason Barca want Song is because he is a defensive mid and would provide decent cover for Busquets.

Trippie · 14-08-2012 10:06PM

I know lloyd talked about it before but it always amuses when players leave clubs, their fans are like thats a terrible idea, sure he would of played 40 games a season for us, he is only going to warm the bench for them, maybe make 20 appearances all year. etc etc

Yet he will still be at a club who will be close to odds on favourites to win the league, champions league, Spanish cup. living in Barcelona with better weather, higher salary in a much bigger club.

Ye now that I think about it clearly should stay in arsenal and battle for 3rd place in the premiership

LuckyLloyd · 14-08-2012 10:13PM

Seaneh wrote: »

Where do Barca plan on playing him?

Do they need a new kitman or something?

If he moves he's an idiot, he'll be competing with two other established players for one spot (Sergio and Masch) and be 3rd choice centre back probably.

MORE MONEY MORE MONEY MORE MONEY

Jeez, every time.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 14-08-2012 10:34PM

He'll (Song) get plenty of game time there, no doubt about it. And he's not competing with Masch, he's almost exclusively a CB these days (with FCB anyway), I don't think he played DM once last season. Keita is gone too, don't forget, and he got plenty of minutes last season.

Seaneh · 14-08-2012 10:40PM

Just think he's too good to be a rotation option.

cson · 14-08-2012 10:43PM

Seaneh wrote: »

Just think he's too good to be a rotation option.

This.

It's ****ing madness to sell him unless that fee is announced as > £25m from our perspective considering he's contracted until 2015.

greendom · 14-08-2012 11:41PM

cson wrote: »

This.

It's ****ing madness to sell him unless that fee is announced as > £25m from our perspective considering he's contracted until 2015.

Absolutely - 15 million makes no sense; just confirms our label as a selling club, this has to stop.

Trippie · 14-08-2012 11:57PM

greendom wrote: »

Absolutely - 15 million makes no sense; just confirms our label as a selling club, this has to stop.

Wenger out?

Lukker- · 14-08-2012 11:59PM

I'd take your hand off for Song at Chelsea for 15m. Quality player. Not too many DM's with his passing range.

greendom · 15-08-2012 12:10AM

Trippie wrote: »

Wenger out?

No

inforfun · 15-08-2012 08:27AM

Dont know how reliable but if this is true, United have themselves a better version of Hernandez.

Gutted for Universidad de Chile though, that is the 3rd striker they lose in 1,5 year. (Eduardo Vargas (Napoli), Junior Fernandez (Leverkusen))

Francie Barrett · 15-08-2012 08:36AM

Lukker- wrote: »

I'd take your hand off for Song at Chelsea for 15m. Quality player. Not too many DM's with his passing range.

I haven't seen him recently, but I seem to remember him having a problem with losing possession deep in opposition territory quite often.

Professional Griefer · 15-08-2012 08:44AM

inforfun wrote: »

Dont know how reliable but if this is true, United have themselves a better version of Hernandez.

Gutted for Universidad de Chile though, that is the 3rd striker they lose in 1,5 year. (Eduardo Vargas (Napoli), Junior Fernandez (Leverkusen))

Theres a picture of him coming out of a hospital in Manchester after a medical yesterday.

greendom · 15-08-2012 08:49AM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I haven't seen him recently, but I seem to remember him having a problem with losing possession deep in opposition territory quite often.

yeah, he's rubbish - are you listening Barca, he's rubbish :rolleyes:

Chancer3001 · 15-08-2012 09:45AM

songs stats from last year are a joke.

the amount of chances created zand assists he had were comparible with the top 5 attackers

DoctorGonzo08 · 15-08-2012 11:13AM

http://justarsenal.com/barcelonas-tapping-up-of-arsenals-alex-song-continues/15237

Good article. I don't know why it is acceptable for Barca to do this. If any other team were to do it they would face a backlash. I hope Song tells them where to go and stays with Arsenal.

racso1975 · 15-08-2012 11:22AM

inforfun wrote: »

Dont know how reliable but if this is true, United have themselves a better version of Hernandez.

Gutted for Universidad de Chile though, that is the 3rd striker they lose in 1,5 year. (Eduardo Vargas (Napoli), Junior Fernandez (Leverkusen))

I read yesterday that the plan is to loan him back to universidad for the year

inforfun · 15-08-2012 12:00PM

I hope they will.
Guy is only a regular for 1/2 a season. Probably will not get a working permit for the time being as he isnt a full Chilean international yet.

Wished they loaned him to Feyenoord for the season

premierstone · 15-08-2012 12:15PM

racso1975 wrote: »

I read yesterday that the plan is to loan him back to universidad for the year

Yeah it was part of the deal, loaned back for a season with immediate effect.

Roger Sterling · 15-08-2012 12:18PM

premierstone wrote: »

Yeah it was part of the deal, loaned back for a season with immediate effect.

For the best really. I always wonder why more clubs don't do this when they sign young players.

Roger Sterling · 15-08-2012 12:20PM

Seaneh wrote: »

Where do Barca plan on playing him?

Do they need a new kitman or something?

If he moves he's an idiot, he'll be competing with two other established players for one spot (Sergio and Masch) and be 3rd choice centre back probably.

Won't he take Keita's place in the squad now that he's gone? A quick glance at his stats from the last few years would suggest Song will get plenty games if thats the plan.

An Citeog · 15-08-2012 12:26PM

Roger Sterling wrote: »

Seaneh wrote: »

Where do Barca plan on playing him?

Do they need a new kitman or something?

If he moves he's an idiot, he'll be competing with two other established players for one spot (Sergio and Masch) and be 3rd choice centre back probably.

Won't he take Keita's place in the squad now that he's gone? A quick glance at his stats from the last few years would suggest Song will get plenty games if thats the plan.

He might make a decent amount of appearances if he does go but a lot of them will be from the bench and barring injuries, he won't start any of the big games. You'll find arguments for and against most moves but it's up to the player themselves to weigh them up and make a decision.

Roger Sterling · 15-08-2012 12:30PM

An Citeog wrote: »

He might make a decent amount of appearances if he does go but a lot of them will be from the bench and barring injuries, he won't start any of the big games. You'll find arguments for and against most moves but it's up to the player themselves to weigh them up and make a decision.

Keita was a pretty big part of Barca's plans the last few years in fairness and they actually have a pretty small pool of players. Played 45+ games most seasons. Any senior player will get plenty games for them as they invariably go far in all 3 competitions. He'd often be drafted in for the likes of European away games when Pep used to play a bit more conservatively. You'll see Xavi being used more and more sparingly as well as time goes on as his knees are in pretty rag order with all the games he's played in the last 5 years.

If Song goes there he'll be a big part of their plans. The lure of inevitable success and multiple title wins, not to mention a big pay increase will surely soften the blow of not being an absolute first choice.

cson · 15-08-2012 12:36PM

Crucially in this instance its not up the player. He has a 3 year contract and as I said, unless we get silly money off Barcelona then they should be told to **** off.

An Citeog · 15-08-2012 12:55PM

Roger Sterling wrote: »

An Citeog wrote: »

He might make a decent amount of appearances if he does go but a lot of them will be from the bench and barring injuries, he won't start any of the big games. You'll find arguments for and against most moves but it's up to the player themselves to weigh them up and make a decision.

Keita was a pretty big part of Barca's plans the last few years in fairness and they actually have a pretty small pool of players. Played 45+ games most seasons. Any senior player will get plenty games for them as they invariably go far in all 3 competitions. He'd often be drafted in for the likes of European away games when Pep used to play a bit more conservatively. You'll see Xavi being used more and more sparingly as well as time goes on as his knees are in pretty rag order with all the games he's played in the last 5 years.

If Song goes there he'll be a big part of their plans. The lure of inevitable success and multiple title wins, not to mention a big pay increase will surely soften the blow of not being an absolute first choice.

How many of the games against Madrid or in the Champions League knockout stages did he start though? With Arsenal, Song is a key player and will start all of their big games whereas he'd be 2nd or 3rd choice with Barca. Also, Fabregas and/or Thiago are Xavi's replacements. I think he'd be more likely to be converted back into a centre half than get the Keita role tbh.

Roger Sterling · 15-08-2012 01:22PM

An Citeog wrote: »

How many of the games against Madrid or in the Champions League knockout stages did he start though? With Arsenal, Song is a key player and will start all of their big games whereas he'd be 2nd or 3rd choice with Barca. Also, Fabregas and/or Thiago are Xavi's replacements. I think he'd be more likely to be converted back into a centre half than get the Keita role tbh.

Barca have a small squad of about 20, all of whom are used very regulalrly. Sure, he won't be "first choice" like he is at Arsenal but thats about all they can offer him compared to playing for a better team, winning piles of medals, better pay, getting to play alongside the iconic players of his generation, in a nicer coiy and an immense stadium. If it was me certainly, I wouldn't be too pushed about not playing every minute of every game tbh. I'd imagine few would. He certainly won't be a marginalised outsider.

At the moment Fabregas/Thiago are being deployed more regulalrly in the front three. I think Song will be deployed in the middle three and he won't affect Fabregas or vice versa. Sure he can cover for CB as well, but he did that at Arsenal to at times so I don't see the problem there. certainly the first choices in that position would remain 2 from Pique, Puyol and Masch.

Bottom line if and when Song goes there he'll be a big player and will play plenty games. The fact that he'd play more often for Arsenal won't be enough to keep him there IMO.

cson · 15-08-2012 01:44PM

Roger Sterling wrote: »

The fact that he'd play more often for Arsenal won't be enough to keep him there IMO.

The fact he's 3 years left on his contract with us will though.

Roger Sterling · 15-08-2012 01:48PM

cson wrote: »

The fact he's 3 years left on his contract with us will though.

I guess Barca wil just wait another year and use the two years remaining on the contract to squeeze ye like everyone else does!

carlop · 15-08-2012 02:19PM

I think at this point being a bit-part player at Barca is better than being a nailed on starter at Arsenal. I'm talking from a footballing-perspective, without even beginning to delve into the money and climate.

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