Sinn Fein in a huff over new signs

geneyuss · 07-08-2012 11:08PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I've already answered. If your goign to demand quick answers at least check if your too slow for that.

Now, we'll come back to your demands later. I asked you first how he was wrong.

ive already answered that,,,keep up

geneyuss · 07-08-2012 11:09PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Will somebody with opposing views to me on all the other points in this thread please explain to Geneyuss that the name The United Kingdom Of Great Britain And Northern Ireland does not say that Northern Ireland is in Britain and in fact makes a point that its not. On thread please if you dont mind.

oh my,,,how embarrassing, are you gunna tell your ma next??

TheChizler · 07-08-2012 11:10PM

Sound of Silence wrote: »

The problem is that the signs do not fulfil your purpose in any way.

Beyond signalling that the person has entered Northern Ireland, they fail to provide any other information. It would have to be assumed that said person would already be aware of any pertinent differences between the two Countries, unless they hope to pull into a Tourist Office and ask for more info.

If a tourist in Ireland really was struggling with the differences between our two Countries, I doubt he would be suddenly enlightened by some sign in a ditch passing him at 40MPH.

In fairness it is absolutely handy to know when you're entering another country, or leaving one. When you enter Germany from France you don't get a massive sign stating all the relevant laws. Although I can't be sure about that one

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:10PM

geneyuss wrote: »

ive already answered that,,,keep up

No you havnt. You havnt shown how the name says that Northern Ireland is in Britain. In fact ,in your last explaination you highlighted the word that shows how its not in Britain.

The Very Hungry Catterpillar · 07-08-2012 11:11PM

Where is Alastair?

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:11PM

geneyuss wrote: »

oh my,,,how embarrassing, are you gunna tell your ma next??

I might do. She's german but still understands the ENglish languages better than you seem to. Maybe she'll explain it to you.

TheChizler · 07-08-2012 11:14PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

No you havnt. You havnt shown how the name says that Northern Ireland is in Britain. In fact ,in your last explaination you highlighted the word that shows how its not in Britain.

I suppose the argument would make some sense if the sign said "Welcome to Great Britain and Northern Ireland", but "United Kingdom of ..." changes the meaning, so much so that I can't believe that it's an issue at all...

Sound of Silence · 07-08-2012 11:14PM

Genghis Khan. wrote: »

Exactly my point. That was very bad government. But it doesn't mean that a state can't exist in co existence with the Irish government. If Stormont would focus more on local issues for the people everyone would be better off.

Liberty is basically the point I am getting at. That is why Northern Ireland exists because in one way, Nationalists don't want it to exist but a large portion of people don't want to be ruled by Dublin. Civil war is not needed.

But how could that possibly be bad Governance! I thought you guys were the plucky Rebels who were fighting for the rights of people and Counties.

Stormont should focus on local issues? Then I guess they will tear these signs down if the local Community don't in fact want them.

I'm sorry Genghis, but unless you start a new profile under some assumed name I'm going to find it difficult to take you seriously after having read your previous posts.

geneyuss · 07-08-2012 11:14PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I might do. She's german but still understands the ENglish languages better than you seem to. Maybe she'll explain it to you.

Maybe she'll teach you how to spell, you "havnt" apparently grasped the English language as of yet.

AtomicHorror · 07-08-2012 11:15PM

Ghandee wrote: »

The reason i find it strange?

Because loyalist leaders, from the six counties considered themselves Irish.

Yet we have people from Ireland (twenty six counties) who tell us we're not.

Oh that. Yeah, that's just bollocks. That's an attempt to massively over-simplify cultural identities. It's broadly the same as those guys who get into edit wars on Wikipedia over what exact genre some awful ****ing band should be placed in.

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:16PM

geneyuss wrote: »

Maybe she'll teach you how to spell, you "havnt" apparently grasped the English language as of yet.

Your resorting to spelling , really?

geneyuss wrote: »

oh my,,,how embarrassing, are you gunna tell your ma next??

golden lane · 07-08-2012 11:16PM

SaoriseBiker wrote: »

Pedantic point but under EU law it is legal currency even in the streling area and has to be accepted.

no it does not.......

TheChizler · 07-08-2012 11:17PM

geneyuss wrote: »

Maybe she'll teach you how to spell, you "havnt" apparently grasped the English language as of yet.

Come on now. If we're being serious a spelling mistake is no demonstration of one's grasp of a language. Can we get back OT?

Dubhlinner · 07-08-2012 11:17PM

LordSutch wrote: »

I understand, but (seriously) would the signs not be helpful in the practical ways I suggest in post #290.

Hope Nodin has gone to bed, bites nails

yeah. though practicality is rarely a major factor in decisions there.

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:18PM

TheChizler wrote: »

. Can we get back OT?

He's been on topic very few times out of the few pages this has gone on. Prefers to try to deflect and not answer. Or just outright say he didnt when he didnt.

geneyuss · 07-08-2012 11:18PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I might do. She's german but still understands the ENglish languages better than you seem to. Maybe she'll explain it to you.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Your resorting to spelling , really?

If i have to stoop to you level of imaturity... so be it,

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:20PM

geneyuss wrote: »

If i have to stoop to you level of imaturity... so be it,

No. My level is asking you outright to explain your points. Which , so far you havnt.

Sound of Silence · 07-08-2012 11:20PM

TheChizler wrote: »

In fairness it is absolutely handy to know when you're entering another country, or leaving one. When you enter Germany from France you don't get a massive sign stating all the relevant laws. Although I can't be sure about that one

It's hardly a Culture shock when you cross the Border here. It's not as if you're going to be lost among foreigners without a well researched travel book.

The basis that this sign serves a real practical purpose is a bit misguided.

The MPH/KPH signs are a suitable indicator that the person is crossing over some international divide. Let's hope they don't panic and start wondering what Country they just crossed into. Ya know, cos' that one border on this tiny Island can confuse people...

geneyuss · 07-08-2012 11:21PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

He's been on topic very few times out of the few pages this has gone on. Prefers to try to deflect and not answer. Or just outright say he didnt when he didnt.

And your still of topic,,,even when asked to get back on,,,,your just going to argue and troll everyone,

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:23PM

geneyuss wrote: »

And your still of topic,,,even when asked to get back on,,,,your just going to argue and troll everyone,

Look. I'll ask you outright again just to if you'll answer.
How does The United Kingdom Of Great Britain And Northern Ireland mean that Northern Ireland is in Brtain.

No need to quote any other posts or put in loads of commas between your words. Just an answer, thats all.

geneyuss · 07-08-2012 11:26PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Look. I'll ask you outright again just to if you'll answer.
How does The United Kingdom Of Great Britain And Northern Ireland mean that Northern Ireland is in Brtain.

No need to quote any other posts or put in lads of commas between your words. Just an answer, thats all.

i have already answered that same question several times, its just not getting through to you, even with another member trying to explain it to you, you completely ignored him,Its just not registering with you and i'll put as many commas as i like in my replys,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:cool:

TheChizler · 07-08-2012 11:28PM

Sound of Silence wrote: »

It's hardly a Culture shock when you cross the Border here. It's not as if you're going to be lost among foreigners without a well researched travel book.

The basis that this sign serves a real practical purpose is a bit misguided.

The MPH/KPH signs are a suitable indicator that the person is crossing over some international divide. Let's hope they don't panic and start wondering what Country they just crossed into. Ya know, cos' that one border on this tiny Island can confuse people...

There might be legal issues that might make a visitor not want to cross the border. If they didn't specifically know that the UK used m/h and ireland km/h they might just think that the council had neglected that part of the roads. That certainly happened me travelling to the north years ago. I didn't know that the road markings were different up north and just thought that the local council hadn't enough money to paint all the roads (I was young).

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:28PM

geneyuss wrote: »

i have already answered that same question several times, its just not getting through to you, even with another member trying to explain it to you, you completely ignored him,Its just not registering with you and i'll put as many commas as i like in my replys,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:cool:

Who tried to explain it to me?

Throw up a quote of where you explain it, you dotn even have to type it out again.

Johro · 07-08-2012 11:30PM

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There there...

geneyuss · 07-08-2012 11:32PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Who tried to explain it to me?

Throw up a quote of where you explain it, you dotn even have to type it out again.

you need to read or re-read the thread, not me

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:34PM

geneyuss wrote: »

you need to read or re-read the thread, not me

No, you need to answer the question. If your going to lie and say you've explained how it means Norhtern Ireland is in Britain then I'll just say no you didnt. Surely you'll want to shut me up and post the proof?

The Chizler made a couple of attempts to explain it to you but you ignored him.

TheChizler · 07-08-2012 11:35PM

geneyuss wrote: »

Why would one put a sign up in N.Ireland saying Welcome to The United kingdom Of Great Britain ?? When its Not Part of Great Britain???

I think this is the closest you got.

geneyuss · 07-08-2012 11:37PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

No, you need to answer the question. If your going to lie and say you've explained how it means Norhtern Ireland is in Britain then I'll just say no you didnt. Surely you'll want to shut me up and post the proof?

The Chizler made a couple of attempts to explain it to you but you ignored him.

isnt in Britain :rolleyes:

Sound of Silence · 07-08-2012 11:38PM

TheChizler wrote: »

There might be legal issues that might make a visitor not want to cross the border. If they didn't specifically know that the UK used m/h and ireland km/h they might just think that the council had neglected that part of the roads. That certainly happened me travelling to the north years ago. I didn't know that the road markings were different up north and just thought that the local council hadn't enough money to paint all the roads (I was young).

The whole MPH/KPH issue is pretty irrelevant and would play no part in dictating where a person would or wouldn't go, unless they happen to be the most unadventurous Human Being on the planet.

If you actually considered it a real issue, I think an actual sign indicating that you've entered a MPH/KPH zone would be more appropriate than a sign that simply tells you that you've entered Northern Ireland, and provides you with absolutely no other information.

The sign serves no real practical purpose; certainly not in the sense that other posters have been arguing.

Guy:Incognito · 07-08-2012 11:39PM

geneyuss wrote: »

isnt in Britain :rolleyes:

No, your trying to show that what he said means its in Britain. I said it shows its not.

Sinn Fein in a huff over new signs

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