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London 2012 Megathread [Part 1]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Imagine the outrage if Gary Lineker said "Its always been considered a catholic sport" :pac:

    It was a fair enough comment in the context of what he was asking the lady, why had it emerged as a popular game. He did say, 'When I was growing up....' which is what it was, a game mostly played by the Protestant community....similar to Rugby and Cricket. No biggie unless you are easily offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    keith16 wrote: »
    You still wouldn't get the RTE turning the Olympics into a poor version of "you've been framed. It's the Olympic games for fcuks sake.

    I agree, that was wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    K-9 wrote: »
    I actually quite like the RTE analysis, gives an experts opinion on sports most of us know f*ck all about, plus they use former Olympians from here which is nice.

    Anyway, Gary Lineker will be obliterated!

    Are you tired of ordinary crisps? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭.E_C_K_S.


    Hi lads, just wondering what would the best way to catch up on the Olympics that I have missed today and yesterday that ye would use-kind of like a highlights sort of thing. I find RTE coverage to be fairly poor and very few clips are making there way on to youtube. Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    K-9 wrote: »
    I actually quite like the RTE analysis, gives an experts opinion on sports most of us know f*ck all about, plus they use former Olympians from here which is nice.

    I don't think it's that bad either, given the resources.
    O'Herlihy always says that his 'style' is to ask the questions a layman might ask. He definately adopts that style on the football panels and it works quite well to draw out the panel. It can get tiresome sometimes though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    Shryke wrote: »
    God knows what the eejit had going on upstairs when he came out with that protestant comment. You can't not take that as him intimating something in a bad minded fashion.

    It wouldnt be the first time he came out with something like that

    "What is the point of calling in Stokes when somebody like Reid is sitting playing golf or something in Sunderland."
    Italia 90 was my favourite tournament by some distance. It wasn't regarded as a great World Cup by an awful lot of the serious pundits. From our point of view, however, it was the first time we'd ever qualified and the atmosphere was fantastic, as I said earlier. The drama was brilliant too. You'll remember the time Dunphy threw his biro across the studio in disgust. You see he had a point and Giles was very much in his corner. They believed that, while we had gone a long way under Jack Charlton, the team was actually better than Jack allowed it to play. They always felt that the team could have gone much further than it did. The argument Dunphy was making about Ireland's 0-0 draw with Egypt was that we hadn't played to our capabilities. That was part of the drama. However, it was totally subsumed by the celebratory nature of the time. The other occasion that I look back on fondly, again from an Irish perspective, would be the match against Italy at Giants Stadium in 1994. I was talking to Ray Houghton about the game. He said that when the Irish team walked out on the pitch they could not believe that of the 75,000 in the crown, nearly all of them were Irish. This was just outside New York and it was a place that should have been crawling with Italians. It was an amazing thing to watch and it was amazing to see Ireland winning. I think that had Ireland played all their games in the northern parts of the US, rather than down in Orlando where they were overcome by the heat, they might have done an awful lot better. The heat beat them rather than anybody else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Shryke wrote: »
    God knows what the eejit had going on upstairs when he came out with that protestant comment. You can't not take that as him intimating something in a bad minded fashion.

    Well Bill is getting like the ould racist grandad in the corner that everybody puts up with, but far more entertaining than Lineker.

    I suppose Britain made a national hero out of Eddie the Eagle for mediocerity but I admire anybody who can say they competed in an Olympics.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    It was a fair enough comment in the context of what he was asking the lady, why had it emerged as a popular game. He did say, 'When I was growing up....' which is what it was, a game mostly played by the Protestant community....similar to Rugby and Cricket. No biggie unless you are easily offended.

    And Hockey! It was a complimentary question. He obviously knows the game is gaining more competitors and I'm sure he rehearsed it with the analyst. It's a hey, look badminton is a fast growing sport, not bad publicity considering we'll probably not see it to the next Olympics!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    And this isn't a BBC v RTE thing.

    No, its a lets scrutinise everything said and done by the BBC to pick out everything we can to have a go at them thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    K-9 wrote: »
    And Hockey! It was a complimentary question. He obviously knows the game is gaining more competitors and I'm sure he rehearsed it with the analyst. It's a hey, look badminton is a fast growing sport, not bad publicity considering we'll probably not see it to the next Olympics!

    Reminds me of the Apres Match sketch on BBC NI sports presenting: 'Onto Hawkey nahw!' :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    No, its a lets scrutinise everything said and done by the BBC to pick out everything we can to have a go at them thing.

    I think my own critisism is valid enough. It's years of hard work and training for an athlete to get to the Olympics. To be mocked with a fast forward cam and Benny Hill music is really terrible. I'm thinking about an athlete who might watch such footage, their family and friends. Their nation even. It's very bad form and it deserves to be called out. It was disrespectful.

    The Beeb are doing well with coverage imo. I just didn't like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 The Very Hungry Catterpillar


    I'm a hell of a lot younger than Bill and when I was growing up, not too far from Ms. Magee, badminton was played mostly by protestants and still is. The problem is the only place to play in a lot of rural communities is the local church or orange hall. The catholic children join the GAA, protestant children play badminton, hockey and rugby .. this is still the norm in this neck of the woods :) Not entirely sure how anyone can be offended by what he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Are the Japanese female gymnasts tiny or are they children?

    25, 22, 21, 19, 16. They actually have one of the oldest teams. Gymnastics stunts growth until about the age of 18/19, but Japanese aren't renowned as being tall in the first place. China's team are always suspect because of how young they look, but they are all 20. One of the stars of the 1996 Olympics grew almost a foot after. Anyway, 'normal' gymnast height is under 5ft. There have been several 4'4 and under. It makes the skills much easier. By contrast, America's team is the youngest. 18, 17, 17, 16, 15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Shryke wrote: »
    I think my own critisism is valid enough. It's years of hard work and training for an athlete to get to the Olympics. To be mocked with a fast forward cam and Benny Hill music is really terrible. I'm thinking about an athlete who might watch such footage, their family and friends. Their nation even. It's very bad form and it deserves to be called out. It was disrespectful.

    The Beeb are doing well with coverage imo. I just didn't like that.

    I didnt see it but I assume its the "underdog of the day" segment or somesuch that they had yesterday too?

    It's a lighthearted take on the things that happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    No, its a lets scrutinise everything said and done by the BBC to pick out everything we can to have a go at them thing.

    Aren't we very senistive? I've been watching it non stop since day one, if I was picking out everything, it would be a long thread. If you don't want to engage with a comment, don't. There is plenty to choose from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Shryke wrote: »
    I think my own critisism is valid enough. It's years of hard work and training for an athlete to get to the Olympics. To be mocked with a fast forward cam and Benny Hill music is really terrible. I'm thinking about an athlete who might watch such footage, their family and friends. Their nation even. It's very bad form and it deserves to be called out. It was disrespectful.

    The Beeb are doing well with coverage imo. I just didn't like that.
    Indeed, they could have also mentioned with that piece that he only took up the sport 3 MONTHS AGO, plus the fact that Niger have a fraction of the budget to spend on rowing compared to the wealthy nations, GB, USA, Germany, etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    I didnt see it but I assume its the "underdog of the day" segment or somesuch that they had yesterday too?

    It's a lighthearted take on the things that happened.

    With the Benny Hill music and speeded up footage, it's mockery, plain and simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Indeed, they could have also mentioned with that piece that he only took up the sport 3 MONTHS AGO, plus the fact that Niger have a fraction of the budget to spend on rowing compared to the wealthy nations, GB, USA, Germany, etc

    The Olympics is supposed to be a forum where the elite level athletes compete to be the best in the world. You'd have to question why they have people that are so far off the pace. It's a bit condescendign by the IOC tbh .Like patting the poor little lads on the head and sending them in with the adults for the laugh.There are people sat at home watching the games that have dedicated their lives to these sports but missed out by a few tenths of a second in qualifying.

    Like sending out a guy 4 years ago to swim that looked like he might drown at one stage, and on his own to make it a proper spectacle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    plus the fact that Niger have a fraction of the budget to spend on rowing compared to the wealthy nations, GB, USA, Germany, etc

    No need to be racist man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    The Olympics is supposed to be a forum where the elite level athletes compete to be the best in the world. You'd have to question why they have people that are so far off the pace.

    that makes no sense, people qualified to get there, they are the best in the world.
    Sure why not make it like the champions league where the 4th best get into the "elite":rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Indeed, they could have also mentioned with that piece that he only took up the sport 3 MONTHS AGO, plus the fact that Niger have a fraction of the budget to spend on rowing compared to the wealthy nations, GB, USA, Germany, etc

    The Olympics is supposed to be a forum where the elite level athletes compete to be the best in the world. You'd have to question why they have people that are so far off the pace. It's a bit condescendign by the IOC tbh .Like patting the poor little lads on the head and sending them in with the adults for the laugh.There are people sat at home watching the games that have dedicated their lives to these sports but missed out by a few tenths of a second in qualifying.

    If they're not from Niger then what you're saying doesn't have much point in it.
    I understand what it is you're saying but it doesn't mean an unprepared athlete should be ridiculed after making the effort to join the games and really put themselves out there. The crowd cheered on like crazy which was amazing to see and heart warming but the BBC just made an awful joke from it. I won't go on because it's late.
    I look forward to tomorrow. Night guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    The Olympics is supposed to be a forum where the elite level athletes compete to be the best in the world. You'd have to question why they have people that are so far off the pace.
    Yes and No. I can understand some people being annoyed they were denied qualification because this guy was entered - but those same people would just be fighting to get out of their heats and not necessarily medal contenders.

    Anyway, the IOC have a duty to try promote these sports in less developed countries - otherwise it just becomes a medal wankfest between the G8 nations.
    No need to be racist man
    Huh? Niger? Thought that joke was done earlier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    that makes no sense, people qualified to get there, they are the best in the world.
    Sure why not make it like the champions league where the 4th best get into the "elite":rolleyes:

    Heres a line from the wiki page of Eric Moussambani, the swimmer from Beijing.

    "Moussambani gained entry to the Olympics without meeting the minimum qualification requirements via a wildcard draw designed to encourage developing countries without expensive training facilities to participate"

    He had never even been in a 50m pool before that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    WTF is a medal wankfest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    WTF is a medal wankfest?

    See who can spunk the furthest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Anyway, the IOC have a duty to try promote these sports in less developed countries - otherwise it just becomes a medal wankfest between the G8 nations.

    Throwing a few no hopers in that finish miles off the pace in the first race doesnt change anything other than to reduce the risk of an upset by having one less fringe athlete. If anythign it makes sure the medals stay with the established group of countries/athletes.

    Encourage and maybe part fund these guys to compete in more regular events or even world championships in the hope to grow the sports if they are serious. A couple of token jestures every 4 years to show how hopeless they are wont do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    WTF is a medal wankfest?
    Kind of like the game soggy biscuit.....except with medals....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Throwing a few no hopers in that finish miles off the pace in the first race doesnt change anything other than to reduce the risk of an upset by having one less fringe athlete. If anythign it makes sure the medals stay with the established group of countries/athletes.

    Encourage and maybe part fund these guys to compete in more regular events or even world championships in the hope to grow the sports if they are serious. A couple of token jestures every 4 years to show how hopeless they are wont do it.

    The point is, it doesn't excuse the BBC for making a mockery of them.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    WTF is a medal wankfest?

    I'm not exactly sure, but by the sounds of it I think there are a few boards posters that would medal at it.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    another disappointing day for the hosts.
    a silver & bronze hardly much to write home about.:p


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