Permission granted to grow GM potatoes in Ireland

suicide_circus · 26-07-2012 09:51AM #1

The EPA has given permission to Teagasc to begin growing genetically modified potatoes in Ireland.

Initially on a trial basis, two hectares of potatoes will be planted in Co Carlow. It is claimed that the crops will grow faster and be more resistant to blight.

What is your opinion on these abominations against God and nature? I will give them a cautious thumbs up.

girl2 · 26-07-2012 09:53AM

Disgraceful. I hope no one buys these. There's enough artificial stuff in our foods out there as it is and it's having a crazy impact on people.

No good.

Quatermain · 26-07-2012 09:57AM

As long as they do not rise against us, overthrowing their masters, I think we should be alright.

On the other hand, this man makes an awful lot of sense.

Hande hoche! · 26-07-2012 09:57AM

Will have their work cut out to beat a good bag of Kerr's Pink.

Ghandee · 26-07-2012 09:59AM

Does this mean Mr Tayto gets supersized willy?

--Kaiser-- · 26-07-2012 09:59AM

girl2 wrote: »

Disgraceful. I hope no one buys these. There's enough artificial stuff in our foods out there as it is and it's having a crazy impact on people.

No good.

Evidence?

Sulla Felix · 26-07-2012 10:01AM

My problem isn't with the potatoes per se but with the absolute impossibility of genetically isolating them. Cross pollination WILL happen. Even on terminator corn which are supposed to be sterile its happened.

Jester252 · 26-07-2012 10:02AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

The EPA has given permission to Teagasc to begin growing genetically modified potatoes in Ireland.

Initially on a trial basis, two hectares of potatoes will be planted in Co Carlow. It is claimed that the crops will grow faster and be more resistant to blight.

What is your opinion on these abominations against God and nature? I will give them a cautious thumbs up.

Old news. GM food has been growen here for ever

Duggy747 · 26-07-2012 10:03AM

Eventually, one mutant potato will have had enough of seeing his brethren being devoured by us and will concoct a terrorist plot to kill us all.

I know this to be true because I've watched too many shìt movies.

danniemcq · 26-07-2012 10:03AM

All for it.

we have come to a stage in time where we are quickly running out of food to feed a ever expanding population.

If we can have a more resistant strand of wheat or corn (or spuds) that would be more resiliant to drought or create a higher yeild per acre then all for it.

All this organic crap where you pay extra for little or no benifit is bullcrap.

CardBordWindow · 26-07-2012 10:03AM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

--Kaiser-- · 26-07-2012 10:05AM

CardBordWindow wrote: »

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Go back to living in a cave so

vicwatson · 26-07-2012 10:05AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

The EPA has given permission to Teagasc to begin growing genetically modified potatoes in Ireland.

Initially on a trial basis, two hectares of potatoes will be planted in Co Carlow. It is claimed that the crops will grow faster and be more resistant to blight.

What is your opinion on these abominations against God and nature? I will give them a cautious thumbs up.

God? Ah hold on.

Cookie_Monster · 26-07-2012 10:07AM

girl2 wrote: »

Disgraceful. I hope no one buys these. There's enough artificial stuff in our foods out there as it is and it's having a crazy impact on people.

No good.

Rice has been GM for decades, probably hasn't bothered you though has it?

Seaneh · 26-07-2012 10:13AM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Evidence?

Men are developing enlarged breasts because of the hormone levels in intensively raised chickens, children are being born with sexual organ mutaions at a higher rate for the same reason.
Girls are developing puberty at a younger age, the instances of prostate cancer is vastly increased, instances of breast cancer are vastly increased.

I could go on if you want?

The ****e we (or poducers) are adding to our foods is ****ing with our bodies in a massive way.

Hande hoche! · 26-07-2012 10:13AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Rice has been GM for decades, probably hasn't bothered you though has it?

Key part of the green revolution.

Seaneh · 26-07-2012 10:18AM

danniemcq wrote: »

All for it.

we have come to a stage in time where we are quickly running out of food to feed a ever expanding population.

If we can have a more resistant strand of wheat or corn (or spuds) that would be more resiliant to drought or create a higher yeild per acre then all for it.

All this organic crap where you pay extra for little or no benifit is bullcrap.

the problem is, gm crops require more neutraints, more water and more effort, not really much help when the places crops are needed most tend to me dry and the soils tend to not be great.

danniemcq · 26-07-2012 10:26AM

Seaneh wrote: »

the problem is, gm crops require more neutraints, more water and more effort, not really much help when the places crops are needed most tend to me dry and the soils tend to not be great.

no they don't they require less. well maybe in the initial testing stage maybe but in the long run i don't think so

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8789279.stm

We take a plant, which typically carries about 30,000 genes, and add a few additional genes that confer insect resistance, or herbicide resistance, or disease resistance, or more efficient water use, or improved human nutrition, or less polluting effluent from animals that eat the grain, or more efficient fertiliser uptake, or increased yield.

We could even (heck, why not?) do all of the above to the same plant.

The result is increased yield, decreased agrochemical use and reduced environmental impact of agriculture.

Cú Giobach · 26-07-2012 10:27AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Rice has been GM for decades, probably hasn't bothered you though has it?

Rice has been genetically modified for thousands of years, from this to this.
Why do people forget this???

Here is an un-genetically modified dog.

It would be a tad tricky not using genetically modified things.

tmc86 · 26-07-2012 10:29AM

po-tay-toe

po-tah-toe

The Dagda · 26-07-2012 10:32AM

CardBordWindow wrote: »

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It is broke, blight is getting more aggressive, requiring more and more chemicals to be used. They are researching making the potatoe more resistant to this aggressive blight. Thus avoiding the use of chemicals. Science is not evil.

danniemcq · 26-07-2012 10:40AM

The Dagda wrote: »

It is broke, blight is getting more aggressive, requiring more and more chemicals to be used. They are researching making the potatoe more resistant to this aggressive blight. Thus avoiding the use of chemicals. Science is not evil.

agreed, also from the same article i quoted abouve

Some say we do not need GM blight resistant potatoes to solve the £3.5bn per year problem of potato blight, because blight resistant varieties have been bred. But if these varieties are so wonderful, how come farmers spend £500 per hectare on spraying to protect blight sensitive varieties?

The answer is the market demands varieties such as Maris Piper, so we need to make them blight resistant.

Seaneh · 26-07-2012 10:41AM

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Rice has been genetically modified for thousands of years, from this to this.
Why do people forget this???

Here is an un-genetically modified dog.

It would be a tad tricky not using genetically modified things.

Yoy are confusing selective breeding with genetic modification.

Seaneh · 26-07-2012 10:46AM

danniemcq wrote: »

no they don't they require less. well maybe in the initial testing stage maybe but in the long run i don't think so

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8789279.stm

The most commonly used GMO's in the world are Monsanto's RR Soybean, his has been proven to require several times more water and fertalizer and have negligibly increased yields.

Their pest resistant corn is the same and both have been proven to cause organ failure in animals.

GMO's are not the solution to our food shortage.

Sea Filly · 26-07-2012 10:49AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

What is your opinion on these abominations against God and nature? I will give them a cautious thumbs up.

You know the word 'abomination' has a negative connotation?

Cú Giobach · 26-07-2012 10:52AM

Seaneh wrote: »

Yoy are confusing selective breeding with genetic modification.

Selective breeding is a tool for genetic modification of a species, it just takes longer than doing it in a lab.
For example, we have used selective breeding to modify the genetic make up of a type of grass to produce large seeds that don't fall off the plant when "ripe", so we can harvest it easily and make bread out of it.

Seaneh · 26-07-2012 11:00AM

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Selective breeding is a tool for genetic modification of a species, it just takes longer than doing it in a lab.
For example, we have used selective breeding to modify the genetic make up of a type of grass to produce large seeds that don't fall off the plant when "ripe", so we can harvest it easily and make bread out of it.

Again, this is different.

We are isolating already present genetic advantages and over the course of generations developing something that is of more use to us. We turned corn and wheat from useless grasses to massive portions of the westren diet of hundreds/thousands of years. We do the same thing with cows, pigs, sheep, dogs, I know this.

But what monsanto and their ilk do is introduce entirely alien genetics into an organism, like thier beans and corn products.

These products are bad news, on a lot of levels.

books4sale · 26-07-2012 11:02AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

T
What is your opinion on these abominations against God .

Steady on there, not everyone believes in fairytales.

Global warming getting worse, 7 billion population, reduced crop yields and resources. Added to all this we are eating GM foods through cereals etc. already

So not only is it the future it is already our present. Ireland as an agricultural country should be at the forefront of this technology but sure why don't we just leave it to someone else, reminds me of Denmark's world leading wind energy industry when Ireland is the country with stacks of wind.

Ireland ...global leaders of nothing!

SocSocPol · 26-07-2012 11:06AM

Seaneh wrote: »

Men are developing enlarged breasts because of the hormone levels in intensively raised chickens, children are being born with sexual organ mutaions at a higher rate for the same reason.
Girls are developing puberty at a younger age, the instances of prostate cancer is vastly increased, instances of breast cancer are vastly increased.

I could go on if you want?

The ****e we (or poducers) are adding to our foods is ****ing with our bodies in a massive way.

None of which has anything at all to do with GM foods, GM is NOT an additive!

--Kaiser-- · 26-07-2012 11:07AM

Seaneh wrote: »

Men are developing enlarged breasts because of the hormone levels in intensively raised chickens, children are being born with sexual organ mutaions at a higher rate for the same reason.
Girls are developing puberty at a younger age, the instances of prostate cancer is vastly increased, instances of breast cancer are vastly increased.

I could go on if you want?

The ****e we (or poducers) are adding to our foods is ****ing with our bodies in a massive way.

None of which has anything to do with GM crops

hardCopy · 26-07-2012 11:08AM

danniemcq wrote: »

All for it.

we have come to a stage in time where we are quickly running out of food to feed a ever expanding population.

If we can have a more resistant strand of wheat or corn (or spuds) that would be more resiliant to drought or create a higher yeild per acre then all for it.

All this organic crap where you pay extra for little or no benifit is bullcrap.

We're not running out of food. We have starving people because our distribution systems are flawed. We punish farmers for producing too much milk while people starve in other parts of the world.

I'm not particularly worried about GM food, I'd more concerned about the levels of pesticides we currently use than the threat of GM.

Bacon Fries are made from GM corn and they taste bloody great.

Permission granted to grow GM potatoes in Ireland

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