The Dark Knight Rises - seen thread *SPOILERS WITHIN* See Mod Warning in first post

farna_boy wrote: »

Just wondering, did all the people who dislike the film watch many trailers and read all the speculation around the film?

I knew that this would be massively over hyped and could be potentially ruined by trailers and speculation so I avoided everything until after I watched the film. I quite enjoyed the film but looking back now, I could see how all the trailers, speculation, sneak previews could have destroyed the movie for me.

In fairness, the trailers for this don't seem that bad, but in general, whoever is marketing movies these days, really doesn't know what a trailer should / shouldn't show and they usually give away half the film, the twists and all the critical information in the trailer. A trailer is supposed to pique your interest, to entice you to come watch the film, not give you a 2 minute synopsis of film before it's even released.

I didnt watch any trailier besides the first one released last year, have avoided every single piece of media successfully since then.

I didnt hate the film , i thought it was quite good, but i felt it the weakest of the 3 movies . I will tell you why.

The editing was poor, some scenes went on too long , i felt if you got a better editor in , you would have a movie 20mins shorter , paced a lot better , and a tighter more enjoyable movie all round.

I dont knitpick little things, but to me this movie didnt feel like it took place in gotham , it could of taken place in any number of cities worldwide.

As i said i did enjoy it , but the weakest of the 3 imo.

The_Dazzler wrote: »

nicklauski wrote: »

As soon as the film ended I said this to my mate. I honestly thought he was gonna cut it there.
As you said it would have been perfect, the perfect ending. As usual with Nolan it would have left the was he/wasnt he there.

Still I thought it cutting with Blake in the Batcave was a good way to end it also. Him rising up to the mantle of being Batman.

Too simular to Inception though.

I don't get it.

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Deleted User wrote: »

Too simular to Inception though.

A lot of people have kinda come to expect that from Nolan though

Overheal wrote: »

To hell with all you all:

[Lights go out in the tunnel]

[Bikes power off]

[Cop car powers off]

[Lights flicker back on]

"What the hell was that?"

"...Heh, you're in for a show tonight, kid."

That was a fantastic moment, best crowdpleasing part of it for me anyway.

I liked the film very much, in spite of its flaws.

I like what it brings to the trilogy. In Batman Begins, Bruce sets out to become more than a man. "As a symbol, I can become incorruptable, I can be everlasting." In The Dark Knight, Joker says in admiration, "You truly are incorruptable, aren't you?" And in The Dark Knight Rises, he lets that symbol become everlasting.

I think they had two strong endings in mind, Alfred's nod to the camera and Robin "rising" and they kind of forced a way to have both of them in it. Maybe if it had ended with the nod and then had Robyn as a post credit sequence (or visa versa) it might have worked better but I still liked it. (Ending on the nod would have fuelled the bogus Inception talk but what the hell, some supposed film fans aren't very cine literate, why on earth do people think they had the scene with Fox and the autopilot!?)

I enjoyed it overall, and I think I will enjoy it more on a second viewing. Preferred it to Begins, which while having the tightest of all the scripts, lacked strong villains and action sequences and I think Nolan was still finding his Gotham City, which was so clear from the opening frame of The Dark Knight.

Cons:
-While the film had the epic feel that we now expect I rarely felt that the story earned that epicness. I didn't really get the urgent need of the Bat's return. (his return was still great though)
-I was a bit bored by the French Resistance stuff, seemed like it was there just to give all these other characters something to do. Why not have Gordon trapped underground too, and have Blake alone up top, futilely trying to work with the authorities? Why was Tate recruited to help track that truck thing, surely she would have stood out more then some random trusted person? I didn't care about Matt Modin's story arc either.
-There was always going to be a second villain and Talia was a week one. Once Bane was defeated the film sort of lost it's urgency, odd considering there was a countdown to a nuclear explosion... People say the Joker would have been the judge in this and while funny it would have been a wasted use for him. No way would he not have used the chaos to his advantage and found a way to earn Batman's full attention, as he said in TDK he and the Batman were destined to fight forever, perhaps he was replaced by a fusion bomb which always felt cheap and out of place in this.
-I had trouble with the sound. It wasn't just Bane either, I had trouble with Gordon as well. The only other time this was a problem was with Inception and in particular Ken Watanabe so I don't really know what that says about audio on Nolan's film's. And the remix to help with Bane's dialogue sounded way off.

Pros
-Anne Hathaway was really good. Difficult to get that anti-hero balance right and I think she did it perfectly, when Batman said there was more to her then that you knew exactly what he meant.
-Thought Hardy was great as Bane. I think he was almost defeated the moment he saw Wayne had escaped the pit, with the reveal that it was something even he never managed. That was a great moment.
-It looked amazing. Sure we expected it to but despite the probability of a grizzly death I'd still choose to live in Nolan's/Pfister's Gotham City just to look around in awe.

hightower1 wrote: »

For anyone who played Arkham city, did ye not find the whole catwoman staying to help batman dilemma thing not a bit too familiar. Literally the exact same situation came up in Arkham city where she has the option to leave the city or go back and help batman. Different setting but exact same situation, felt a bit of a copy paste tbh for a game that came out a year ago.

Its just what happens with Catwoman & Batman. Its been their dynamic for years. Catwoman always tries to just look after herself but never can when it comes to Bruce

Basq wrote: »

At least Bale's Batman growl was probably at it's most restrained in TDKR.

Especially when compared to the Flass interrogation scene from Batman Begins..


"WHERE ARE THE OTHER DRUGS GOING!?"

this is the worst scene for it by far imo



"YHU'LLBEINAPADDEDCELLFOREVURRRR!"

The scene where he finally disabled Bane and starts demanding to know where the bomb is was a parody of himself!