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christmas2012 · 19-07-2012 06:40PM

they get paid the value of a new sports car every week,that is wasteful when they could create other jobs..

Mr_Spaceman · 19-07-2012 08:44PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

How much money do football clubs turn over?

Its only fair they get their cut.

I'd prefer it if hard-pressed supporters got their cut; ie, a cut off stupid ticket prices which end up lining the pockets of over-paid, overdressed, glorified knackers like John Terry and Ashley Cole.

F*ck modern football.

Darragh Harte · 19-07-2012 08:46PM

Sea Filly wrote: »

I think this is a pretty popular opinion actually. It's generally accepted that you have to be physically attracted to your partner. I think people are just pointing out that for it to be a lasting relationship, there needs to be more stuff in addition to that.

i totally agree

but they are important too. Physical attractiveness and mental/personality attractiveness go hand in hand

KenSwee · 19-07-2012 09:06PM

I'm probably going to get battered for this but I don't get the big thing about Bruce Springsteen. Every year he's over here playing for five or six hours and you have all sorts like Matt Cooper and Tom Dunne on the radio saying " I can't wait to see him, he's so great". It's music for part time music lovers.

Mr_Spaceman · 19-07-2012 09:09PM

KenSwee wrote: »

I'm probably going to get battered for this but I don't get the big thing about Bruce Springsteen. Every year he's over here playing for five or six hours and you have all sorts like Matt Cooper and Tom Dunne on the radio saying " I can't wait to see him, he's so great". It's music for part time music lovers.

A glorified, rasping pub-rocker who got lucky.

Lame, really.

pragmatic1 · 19-07-2012 09:15PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

How much money do football clubs turn over?

Its only fair they get their cut.

How much money do pharmaceutical and biopharmaceutical companies turnover. Should scientists not get a cut of that money

steddyeddy · 19-07-2012 09:18PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

How much money do pharmaceutical and biopharmaceutical companies turnover. Should scientists not get a cut of that money

Well if they do well be driving ferraris and shagging supermodels!

Paddy Cow · 19-07-2012 09:21PM

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

I'd prefer it if hard-pressed supporters got their cut; ie, a cut off stupid ticket prices which end up lining the pockets of over-paid, overdressed, glorified knackers like John Terry and Ashley Cole.

F*ck modern football.

If hard pressed supporters are stupid enough to spend ridiculous amounts of money on getting the latest jersey and tickets, then they deserve to be ripped off.

deisedave · 19-07-2012 09:32PM

christmas2012 wrote: »

they get paid the value of a new sports car every week,that is wasteful when they could create other jobs..

It's about supply and demand if there is massive money made on the sport obviously the players should be well paid. Why is it just football you pick on American sports people are paid alot more in the NBA etc,. It's only people at the very top level of the sport who get massive money, you can bet that west ham or norwich's players are not even on 70k a week.

I think its more than fair if a club is turning hundred's of millions a player gets a good cut considering all the money is cause of them.

Mr_Spaceman · 19-07-2012 09:54PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

If hard pressed supporters are stupid enough to spend ridiculous amounts of money on getting the latest jersey and tickets, then they deserve to be ripped off.

I agree with this - up to a point.

Clubs know fans aren't going to 'shop' elsewhere. Enough of them will pay through the nose, especially at the top clubs.

Because, frankly, if they don't, a glory-hunting Euro/Japanese tourist will part with £60 a ticket for the over-hyped EPL "experience".

The winners in this whole charade are, of course, players living high on the hog. Many of whom are no more than mediocre, sadly.

Officer Giggles · 19-07-2012 09:56PM

FishBowel wrote: »

The best-tasting cheese puffs are sold in Lidl.

I think Aldi's are the best

Nodin · 19-07-2012 10:08PM

Irish wimmin - nothin wrong with them at all.

sbsquarepants · 20-07-2012 09:31AM

KenSwee wrote: »

I'm probably going to get battered for this but I don't get the big thing about Bruce Springsteen. Every year he's over here playing for five or six hours and you have all sorts like Matt Cooper and Tom Dunne on the radio saying " I can't wait to see him, he's so great". It's music for part time music lovers.

It's the song writing - best in the world by a long shot and unlike most huge acts touring these days, his new stuff is as good as his old. Take the stones for example - huge stadium draw untill recently but hadn't had a good song in 20 years, U2 - when was their last half decent song? at least 10 years ago anyway.

Bruce is god, you filthy heathen!

21-07-2012 12:54PM

christmas2012 wrote: »

they get paid the value of a new sports car every week,that is wasteful when they could create other jobs..

How could any other jobs be created? Are all the networks paying for viewing rights and all the fans going to give the money to this imaginary job providing business your talking about?

pragmatic1 wrote: »

How much money do pharmaceutical and biopharmaceutical companies turnover. Should scientists not get a cut of that money

They do.. They get exactly what they're worth.

I don't even like football but when people say their wages are too high, I have to wonder how much of the world they can understand.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 21-07-2012 01:03PM

KenSwee wrote: »

I'm probably going to get battered for this but I don't get the big thing about Bruce Springsteen. Every year he's over here playing for five or six hours and you have all sorts like Matt Cooper and Tom Dunne on the radio saying " I can't wait to see him, he's so great". It's music for part time music lovers.

As opposed to what exactly?

LoYL · 21-07-2012 01:06PM

The huge emphasis on keeping kids happy and entertained at all times has ruined their chances of dealing with the real world as adults.

Mardy Bum · 21-07-2012 01:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How could any other jobs be created? Are all the networks paying for viewing rights and all the fans going to give the money to this imaginary job providing business your talking about?

They do.. They get exactly what they're worth.

I don't even like football but when people say their wages are too high, I have to wonder how much of the world they can understand.

I would agree to a certain extent with this regarding the median wage top level pros earn but its the high outliner wages in football which are not commercially correct, let alone morally. Just look at the amount of money Man City has spent in the last few years on about 40 or so players. Its actually disgusting. The question has to be asked is this economically viable and where is this money being pillaged from?

Clubs like Man City, Chelsea, Anzhi, Malaga are being both up by oligarchies who do it for nothing more than the thrill of it. Their money comes generally from natural resources which they pillage from another country, generally their own, and the countries are left with massive inequalities while around 20 players who play for the club live on massively inflated wages that would around 100 people could live on. We are blind to this because most of us are not peasants who live in Saudi Arabia.

steddyeddy · 21-07-2012 01:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How could any other jobs be created? Are all the networks paying for viewing rights and all the fans going to give the money to this imaginary job providing business your talking about?

They do.. They get exactly what they're worth.

I don't even like football but when people say their wages are too high, I have to wonder how much of the world they can understand.

Actually Im astounded that you think someone who is searching for a cure to cancer, solving the worlds hunger problems or curing aids is getting what their worth ie in some cases 60,000-100,000 and someone like lionel messi who gets 24 million plus is ok.

Pharmacutical compainies dont pay out anywhere near the percentage of profits to scientists that football clubs do for footballers.

Even in terms of the sport itself footballers wages are sickening Olympic athletes train far far harder than most footballers.

steddyeddy · 21-07-2012 01:08PM

LoYL wrote: »

The huge emphasis on keeping kids happy and entertained at all times has ruined their chances of dealing with the real world as adults.

+1

I would also say your ruining your kids happiness in the long term by spoiling him/her.

Mardy Bum · 21-07-2012 01:10PM

LoYL wrote: »

The huge emphasis on keeping kids happy and entertained at all times has ruined their chances of dealing with the real world as adults.

I think adolescence would be the most suitable period for humans to learn about adulthood as opposed to childhood where they are still developing important cognitive and social skills or would it be better to inflict moments of misery on children just for some perceived future "good"?

gnfnrhead · 21-07-2012 04:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't even like football but when people say their wages are too high, I have to wonder how much of the world they can understand.

Yaya Toure is believed to get in the region of €250,000 per WEEK. You dont think that is just a little high? Thats €1 million per month before he gets bonuses, image rights etc. Thats just for showing up. More and more players are getting that kind of money nowadays.

Richard Hillman · 21-07-2012 05:05PM

KenSwee wrote: »

I'm probably going to get battered for this but I don't get the big thing about Bruce Springsteen. Every year he's over here playing for five or six hours and you have all sorts like Matt Cooper and Tom Dunne on the radio saying " I can't wait to see him, he's so great". It's music for part time music lovers.

I love Bruce Springsteen but i dont understand the massive media coverage his gigs get compared to others. The Slane gigs and Oxegen get huge amounts of coverage before and after the gigs buts bands like AC/DC and Bon Jovi who played in front of 80,000 a few years ago got zero coverage. When the Kings of Leon sold out the o2 in a few minutes it was all over the news, AC/DC did the same and nothing was said about it. I think its the gig promoters that have people in every nuke and cranny of the media to highlight these things. RTE (who are a law onto themselves) are the worst culprits. You can also guarantee that the likes of Tom Dunne and Matt Cooper didnt have to pay for their tickets. Although in fairness to Tom Dunne, you wouldnt consider him some sort of stooge considering his music career. He probably just loves Bruce Springsteen.

krudler · 21-07-2012 05:20PM

KenSwee wrote: »

I'm probably going to get battered for this but I don't get the big thing about Bruce Springsteen. Every year he's over here playing for five or six hours and you have all sorts like Matt Cooper and Tom Dunne on the radio saying " I can't wait to see him, he's so great". It's music for part time music lovers.

He's only slightly less annoying than music snobs.

mightdomighty · 21-07-2012 11:27PM

The recession was more our fault than the government or the banks

23-07-2012 06:02AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

I would agree to a certain extent with this regarding the median wage top level pros earn but its the high outliner wages in football which are not commercially correct, let alone morally. Just look at the amount of money Man City has spent in the last few years on about 40 or so players. Its actually disgusting. The question has to be asked is this economically viable and where is this money being pillaged from?

Clubs like Man City, Chelsea, Anzhi, Malaga are being both up by oligarchies who do it for nothing more than the thrill of it. Their money comes generally from natural resources which they pillage from another country, generally their own, and the countries are left with massive inequalities while around 20 players who play for the club live on massively inflated wages that would around 100 people could live on. We are blind to this because most of us are not peasants who live in Saudi Arabia.

Yea fully agree.. Forgot to add that exception into my post. If the club is economically viable, they're worth the money. If it's an oligarch's fortune paying for it, then it's just paying higher than the next guy and then it really just comes down to supply and demand instead of return on investment.

steddyeddy wrote: »

Actually Im astounded that you think someone who is searching for a cure to cancer, solving the worlds hunger problems or curing aids is getting what their worth ie in some cases 60,000-100,000 and someone like lionel messi who gets 24 million plus is ok.

Pharmacutical compainies dont pay out anywhere near the percentage of profits to scientists that football clubs do for footballers.

Even in terms of the sport itself footballers wages are sickening Olympic athletes train far far harder than most footballers.

Why are you astounded? There are thousands of scientists and millions of people capable of it if they study it.. I could be a scientist trying to solve the world's problems if I wanted to be. But most scientists will fail to do anything altruistic in their careers and 99% wont change the world.. The amount of drugs that fail is enormous. You can't pay someone millions because they're trying to find a cure and even if they do, the amount of money that goes into developing a drug is enormous.. It's not clean profit.

You can pay someone millions if he is one of dozens in the world who are world-best in the most popular sport.. That's not something anyone can do.

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Yaya Toure is believed to get in the region of €250,000 per WEEK. You dont think that is just a little high? Thats €1 million per month before he gets bonuses, image rights etc. Thats just for showing up. More and more players are getting that kind of money nowadays.

Yea, it's high.. I've never considered quitting my job to do it though. The entry requirements are pretty high.

pickarooney · 23-07-2012 09:04AM

deisedave wrote: »

It's about supply and demand if there is massive money made on the sport obviously the players should be well paid. Why is it just football you pick on American sports people are paid alot more in the NBA etc,. It's only people at the very top level of the sport who get massive money, you can bet that west ham or norwich's players are not even on 70k a week.

Kieron Dyer was being paid over 100,000 euros a week not to play for West Ham only last year.

tok9 · 23-07-2012 09:49AM

pickarooney wrote: »

Kieron Dyer was being paid over 100,000 euros a year not to play for West Ham only last year.

So he's on £1500 a week

Cienciano · 23-07-2012 09:50AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Actually Im astounded that you think someone who is searching for a cure to cancer, solving the worlds hunger problems or curing aids is getting what their worth ie in some cases 60,000-100,000 and someone like lionel messi who gets 24 million plus is ok.

Pharmacutical compainies dont pay out anywhere near the percentage of profits to scientists that football clubs do for footballers.

Even in terms of the sport itself footballers wages are sickening Olympic athletes train far far harder than most footballers.

It seems footballers aren't as stupid as people make them out to be.

pickarooney · 23-07-2012 10:12AM

tok9 wrote: »

So he's on £1500 a week

I meant to type week but my brain didn't let me.

MJ23 · 23-07-2012 11:48AM

The Northern Ireland accent is probably the most annoying accent in the world. I switch station on tv or radio whenever any of those politicians or golfers are on.

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