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Where would you be going without a bell on your bike!?!

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  • #32
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    macnab wrote: »
    Bike safety: Republican Sinn Fein spokesman Sean O'Neill added: “If it is against the law for a motorist to use a mobile phone while driving, surely there is a equal danger posed by a cyclist who is listening to a tape device while cycling. This is an area that needs to be examined before some pedestrians are injured by careless cyclists in Limerick.”

    By this "logic" anybody who has impaired hearing ability either by choice or by accident of birth should not be legally allowed to cycle.........

    That'd be most of Limerick then.......

    A nice 'driiiiiiingy' bell on something like a Pashley is lovely, but this is a wannabe Shinner-reject politician looking for publicity and unfortunately getting it.

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  • #33
    Lusk Doyle
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    macnab wrote: »
    Bike safety: Republican Sinn Fein spokesman Sean O'Neill added: “If it is against the law for a motorist to use a mobile phone while driving, surely there is a equal danger posed by a cyclist who is listening to a tape device while cycling. This is an area that needs to be examined before some pedestrians are injured by careless cyclists in Limerick.”

    By this "logic" anybody who has impaired hearing ability ....... by accident of birth should not be legally allowed to cycle, or as the issue is road safety awareness, they should not be allowed use a public byway.
    So is Mr O'Neill suggesting that deaf people should not be allowed cycle or walk in public places??

    How did you get that from his quote? I see nothing there about disability, merely the use of phones and tape devices.


  • #34
    hardCopy
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    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    macnab wrote: »
    Bike safety: Republican Sinn Fein spokesman Sean O'Neill added: “If it is against the law for a motorist to use a mobile phone while driving, surely there is a equal danger posed by a cyclist who is listening to a tape device while cycling. This is an area that needs to be examined before some pedestrians are injured by careless cyclists in Limerick.”

    By this "logic" anybody who has impaired hearing ability ....... by accident of birth should not be legally allowed to cycle, or as the issue is road safety awareness, they should not be allowed use a public byway.
    So is Mr O'Neill suggesting that deaf people should not be allowed cycle or walk in public places??

    How did you get that from his quote? I see nothing there about disability, merely the use of phones and tape devices.

    I'm sure this is just the beginning of his campaign to ban radios and windows in cars.


  • #35
    seamus
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    monument wrote: »
    Using that logic the Luas would never get anywhere in the city centre. :)

    The trams have bells and horns: The bell (as with a bicycle bell) is mostly an early warning system.

    And, as I've said here many times before, ringing a bell and pulling breaks is as easy as cycling a bike.
    Ah but the Luas is on a fixed track and doesn't have the luxury of changing direction to avoid an incident.

    I see your point, and I understand that ringing a bell could be useful at places like college green. But I'd be skeptical that the kind of idiots who step out in front of bikes would pay any heed to a bell at all. I would rather have my hands covering my brakes than my bell.


  • #36
    macnab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭macnab


    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    macnab wrote: »
    Bike safety: Republican Sinn Fein spokesman Sean O'Neill added: “If it is against the law for a motorist to use a mobile phone while driving, surely there is a equal danger posed by a cyclist who is listening to a tape device while cycling. This is an area that needs to be examined before some pedestrians are injured by careless cyclists in Limerick.”

    By this "logic" anybody who has impaired hearing ability ....... by accident of birth should not be legally allowed to cycle, or as the issue is road safety awareness, they should not be allowed use a public byway.
    So is Mr O'Neill suggesting that deaf people should not be allowed cycle or walk in public places??

    How did you get that from his quote? I see nothing there about disability, merely the use of phones and tape devices.

    I never used the word disability, I said impaired hearing ability. As in your hearing is impaired because you are listening to loud music.


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  • #37
    Jawgap
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    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    How did you get that from his quote? I see nothing there about disability, merely the use of phones and tape devices.
    macnab wrote: »
    I never used the word disability, I said impaired hearing ability. As in your hearing is impaired because you are listening to loud music.

    Obviously I'm not the clever, funny b@stard I think I am:D

    I cross out 'hearing' in an attempt to be funny.


  • #38
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    seamus wrote: »
    I would rather have my hands covering my brakes than my bell.

    A bell should be so you can do both! You fingers cover break and your thumb covers the bell.


  • #39
    seamus
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    monument wrote: »
    A bell should be so you can do both! You fingers cover break and your thumb covers the bell.
    Maybe I've got small hands, but I can't think of any physical placement of the bell that would allow me to brake on the hoods and press the bell with my thumb :)


  • #40
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    seamus wrote: »
    Maybe I've got small hands, but I can't think of any physical placement of the bell that would allow me to brake on the hoods and press the bell with my thumb :)

    I suppose it depends on the bike or handlebars, cargo bike and hybrid with flat bar:

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  • #41
    Rock of Gibraltar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Rock of Gibraltar


    I really don't see why you wouldn't want a bell on your bike. That's like saying you wouldn't want a horn on your car, like the bell you wouldn't use it all the time but when you wanted to use it and you didn't have it it would annoy the hell out of you.
    We moan like crazy about pedestrians walking on cycle paths, why not do as the Dutch and terrorise with bells?
    They should be sold as standard (same with lights) on bikes sold as commuter bikes.


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  • #42
    Raam
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    It's not even remotely the same thing.


  • #43
    MajesticDonkey
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    I assume this is only focused on hybrid/commuter bikes, 'cause I sure as hell ain't putting one on my racer. :D


  • #44
    Doctor Bob
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    seamus wrote: »
    I can't think of any physical placement of the bell that would allow me to brake on the hoods and press the bell with my thumb :)

    I may have just the thing... :p

    (Fingers crossed you're not a Campag man!)


  • #45
    Cookie_Monster
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    Rock of Gibraltar wrote: »
    I really don't see why you wouldn't want a bell on your bike.
    same reason I don't want reflectors, highvis vest or a helmet, they're not needed and not of any benefit to have.
    macnab wrote: »
    Bike safety: Republican Sinn Fein spokesman Sean O'Neill added: “If it is against the law for a motorist to use a mobile phone while driving, surely there is a equal danger posed by a cyclist who is listening to a tape device while cycling. This is an area that needs to be examined before some pedestrians are injured by careless cyclists in Limerick.”
    so we should ban car radios then, right?


  • #46
    Rock of Gibraltar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Rock of Gibraltar


    Yeah I'm referring to commuter bikes.
    If you're cycling in the city you're bound to interact with pedestrians and other commuting cyclists, a bell is very useful to alert people to your presence.
    They're a legal requirement in the Netherlands and they use they like crazy, if as a pedestrian you put a foot in a cycle path you get a corus of dings that would give you nightmares. They'd also use their bell to alert other cyclists if they were overtaking in the cycle path.


  • #47
    macnab
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    same reason I don't want reflectors, highvis vest or a helmet, they're not needed and not of any benefit to have.


    so we should ban car radios then, right?

    My point exactly. If you apply this idiots principles you would end up with half the population banned off the road. The book "Animal Farm" comes to mind.


  • #48
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    This is the solution to our non existent problem
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    details here http://www.gizmag.com/hornster-worlds-loudest-bicycle-horn/22457/


  • #49
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Rock of Gibraltar wrote: »
    ...why not do as the Dutch and terrorise with bells?

    How does that work?

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  • #50
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,625 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Hermy wrote: »
    How does that work?

    you rip the bell off the handlebar and throw it at the idiots?


  • #51
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Would you stop and dismount first?
    And what about the risk of damage to paintwork?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • #52
    Lumen
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    gizmag.com

    Always makes me chuckle.


  • #53
    Lusk Doyle
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    macnab wrote: »
    I never used the word disability, I said impaired hearing ability. As in your hearing is impaired because you are listening to loud music.

    Eh, you said "deaf people" in your post. That to me is a disability. Impaired hearing does not mean that you can't hear due to loud music.

    "Didn't you hear me?"

    "No, I'm sorry. My hearing was impaired due to the loud music I was listening to."


    Please.

    Edit: You also said as a result of birth in your post too!


  • #54
    Tombo2001
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    I have to laugh at thim giving out about cyclists and personal stereos.

    I have a bell on my bike, but the route I use to go to work - a canal path that pedestrians and cyclists can both use - I find many of the pedestrians cant hear the bell since they have their personal stereos on.


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