Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

batistuta9 · 17-07-2012 01:50PM

Kess73 wrote: »

Would be a smart move by Chelsea as he looks a very talented young player.

Eden think's that lad is better than him.

There's an even younger one again Kylian (16) who's supposed to going to turn out better than both of them, and another who's only 7 - haven't heard much about him

Playboy wrote: »

Ask an Arsenal fan if they would prefer to watch George Graham football and win trophies or watch a Wegner team not win trophies. There would be a pretty even split imo... Don't see why it's such an alien concept. Isn't Roman spending a fortune to try and turn his team into an attractive footballing side?

I'm an arsenal fan can we have the trophies & Bruce Rioch football?

playing good footballs all well & good, but means fúck all without trophies to show for it.

GavRedKing · 17-07-2012 01:52PM

Playboy wrote: »

Ask an Arsenal fan if they would prefer to watch George Graham football and win trophies or watch a Wegner team not win trophies. There would be a pretty even split imo... Don't see why it's such an alien concept. Isn't Roman spending a fortune to try and turn his team into an attractive footballing side?

I'd go watch boring, lumping the ball up the field football everyday day of the week if it meant winning trophies.

Playing excellent football and winning nothing means exactly that, nothing. Sure you'll get some plaudits for playing the beautiful game but theres more then one way to skin a cat.

Ask any of the clubs that have got relegated trying to play attractive, open football aftering getting promoted and I bet if they could guarntee safety in return for exciting football they'ed take your hand off.

Romans trying to bring the best young players from Europe and the World in and they are in turn, regarded as attractive signings that will make us play a different way. In the EPL you need steel and flair to win games. With Hazard/Mata/Marin we have flair players with good technique and creative ability and then we have the likes of Ivanovic/Mikel/Terry to add bite to the team.

If Roman wants to spend money we've made and money we will make then fairplay to him, shows his ambition and what he wants from the club.

Oat23 · 17-07-2012 01:53PM

Hamburg have signed Milan Badelj from Dinamo Zagreb for €4m according to Sportske.

Any FM fans have probably come across him at some point!

SteelyDanJalapeno · 17-07-2012 01:54PM

Is this not just about summer signings? Start a new thread ffs. Rvp now being linked to juventus

Dempsey · 17-07-2012 01:56PM

iregk wrote: »

Transfer fee's paid. Too awkward to do wages as palyers contracts can fluctuate yearly.

Ignoring players wages is where your argument falls down then. Factor that in and you'd see a big difference between budgets.

batistuta9 · 17-07-2012 02:04PM

Arsenal supposedly bid £9mil for Paulinho from Corinthians, anyone know much about him?

some stats from Soccerway:
2012 Paulista - apps 15, goals 3
2012 Serie A - apps 3, goals 0
2012 Copa Libertadores - apps 14, goals 3
2011 Paulista - apps 20, goals 3
2011 Serie A - apps 35, goals 8

greendom · 17-07-2012 02:05PM

This thread used to be like a twitter feed for transfers on boards. Can the argument stop or go elsewhere, please ?

iregk · 17-07-2012 02:06PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Ignoring players wages is where your argument falls down then. Factor that in and you'd see a big difference between budgets.

OK so despite the transfer fee's paid which are relatively equal (and as a result I'd wager results in wages being relatively equal) the differential in success can be attributed purely to the wages bill. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

T-b0n3 · 17-07-2012 02:09PM

iregk wrote: »

OK so despite the transfer fee's paid which are relatively equal (and as a result I'd wager results in wages being relatively equal) the differential in success can be attributed purely to the wages bill. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Berba at the moment is apparently available for 5million. Doesn't mean he wont be expecting high wages.....

High fee doesn't always mean high wages and vice versa.

gosplan · 17-07-2012 02:21PM

Playboy wrote: »

Ask an Arsenal fan if they would prefer to watch George Graham football and win trophies or watch a Wegner team not win trophies. There would be a pretty even split imo... Don't see why it's such an alien concept. Isn't Roman spending a fortune to try and turn his team into an attractive footballing side?

I can't believe i defending Chelsea here but .....

Your argument is fairly inconsistant with the facts. They were actually one of the more attacking teams in last season's CL and I'd bet scored more goals than anyone bar the two spanish teams.

What happened is they found themselves in a semi-final against Barca and with a new manager took a pragmatic approach of trying to go through the tie before playing stylish football, which is the only way anyone bar Madrid has beaten Barca in recent times.

I mean, what, they go ahead against Barca and you'd expect them to go looking for another??

Then the final they focussed again on defending because Bayern would have ripped them apart in a more open game.

Personally, i was rooting for Barca and then Bayern but there's no rediculous moralising to be done. To approach the games in any way other than the way Chelsea did would have been idiotic.

opr · 17-07-2012 02:48PM

Arsenal turn down a £25m bid from Chelsea for Theo Walcott. Surely that can't be true?

Opr

amiable · 17-07-2012 02:53PM

opr wrote: »

Arsenal turn down a £25m bid from Chelsea for Theo Walcott. Surely that can't be true?

Opr

Transfer news. I think you have the wrong thread OPR

Professional Griefer · 17-07-2012 02:54PM

Michu to Swansea for 1.5m - football365

Seaneh · 17-07-2012 02:54PM

If someone offered me €25m for Theo Walcott I'd assume they were joking and reject it too.

amiable · 17-07-2012 02:56PM

Seaneh wrote: »

If someone offered me €25m for Theo Walcott I'd assume they were joking and reject it too.

A few of the reliable journos say that Arsenal are open to the idea of selling Walcott if he won't sign a new contract.
I can't see anybody offering 25 million as a starting bid anyway.

GavRedKing · 17-07-2012 02:57PM

opr wrote: »

Arsenal turn down a £25m bid from Chelsea for Theo Walcott. Surely that can't be true?

Opr

Even I cant defend that silly bid if it was true.

Thats the definition of pissing away money.

opr · 17-07-2012 03:01PM

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Michu to Swansea for 1.5m - football365

I think that will turn out to be a great bit of business. I seen Rayo a good few times last season as I like the whole back story behind the club and they had a Liverpool player on loan. Michu caught the eye when watching them.

Opr

Pinturicchio · 17-07-2012 03:02PM

Juve are top of my list, RVP tells Arsenal
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/juve-are-top-of-my-list-rvp-tells-arsenal-7946794.html

Nuri Sahin · 17-07-2012 03:05PM

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

Michu to Swansea for 1.5m - football365

Feckin' steal if that is true!

I hope bookies will be as generous with bets on him this coming season wherever he ends up, like they were last season

Kiwi_knock · 17-07-2012 03:11PM

Lot of posts on Twitter, not sure if they are credible, are saying that Luke de Jong has signed for Gladbach for €15 million.

KaiserGunner · 17-07-2012 03:14PM

Pinturicchio wrote: »

Juve are top of my list, RVP tells Arsenal
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/juve-are-top-of-my-list-rvp-tells-arsenal-7946794.html

No quotes though at all in that story, so it doesnt really tell us much.

Nuri Sahin · 17-07-2012 03:22PM

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Lot of posts on Twitter, not sure if they are credible, are saying that Luke de Jong has signed for Gladbach for €15 million.

Still no confirmation, but he's been in talks with Gladbach for awhile now. €12-14M is what I've heard in the main being quoted for him.

Nuri Sahin · 17-07-2012 03:23PM

Naldo has moved from Bremen to Wolfsburg, Diego will be happy about that.

SteelyDanJalapeno · 17-07-2012 03:26PM

Michu and de jong are both steals if true, any news on guidetti? Has he returned to city?

Samich · 17-07-2012 03:26PM

Where are the rumours, less history talk

Samich · 17-07-2012 03:27PM

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Lot of posts on Twitter, not sure if they are credible, are saying that Luke de Jong has signed for Gladbach for €15 million.

I thought that was more or less secured about a week or 2 ago?

greendom · 17-07-2012 03:27PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Even I cant defend that silly bid if it was true.

Thats the definition of pissing away money.

A 23 year old whose stats put him in the top tier of players in his position. Clubs have paid an awful lot more for an awful lot worse. Having said that he does only have 1 year on his contract - I really want him to re-sign with Arsenal anyway - just coming into his prime now.

Samich · 17-07-2012 03:28PM

opr wrote: »

Arsenal turn down a £25m bid from Chelsea for Theo Walcott. Surely that can't be true?

Opr

They'll play him right back

Samich · 17-07-2012 03:33PM

Not sure of mentioned already but..

Reading have signed defender Adrian Mariappa from Watford for £2.5m and are hoping to sign Chris Gunter from Notts Forest before touring on Wednesday.

Watford have lined up Fitz Hall to replace him.

Carlos Vela is in talks with Sociedad over a possible permanent transfer.

Southend player Bilel Mohsni is on trial at an unnamed PL club.

Ron Vlaars move to Villa is close to being sealed for £8m.

And according to skysports the Oscar deal is done, while the Cavani deal is help up by wages.

Nuri Sahin · 17-07-2012 03:34PM

Vela to Sociedad on a permanent transfer looks set. Was on loan last season. Presentation of the player on Thursday.

Deadline Day: Bring Out The Transfer Gimp!

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