Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

hurler on de ditch · 12-07-2012 7:52am

daddydick wrote: »

It's a bit if light hearted fun for God sakes.

This coming from a man who said not so long ago: "HE MIGHT BE A TOERAG, BUT HE'S OUR OUR TOERAG" about John Mullane. Stopped reading your posts after that. Easily the most cringeworthy post I've ever read.

that was a quote from the terracing ,and as much as you would like to think that you stopped reading my posts ,you just cant help yourself can you ?,daddydick more like weenerboy, chill out ,

Psychedelic · 12-07-2012 9:40am

hurler on de ditch, you have some chip on your shoulder boy, don't think you ever post anything here that isn't having a go at another user or a rant against players/management/board/everyone really....think your vitriol would be better suited over on anfearrua.

solarith · 12-07-2012 10:45am

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

dont give up the job ,if you have one that is ,not your best utter tripe

You spelled 'the' wrong in your username.

deisefolife · 12-07-2012 10:53am

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

dont give up the job ,if you have one that is ,not your best utter tripe

I personally had a good laugh while I was reading it.

I found it hilarious tbh..

premierstone · 12-07-2012 11:06am

deisefolife wrote: »

I personally had a good laugh while I was reading it.

I found it hilarious tbh..

All ''normal'' people did deise it is a classic, one in a long line of them I might add.

HillFarmer · 12-07-2012 11:43am

When is the team named?

calvin_zola · 12-07-2012 11:49am

mariano rivera wrote: »

No need to call me a <snip>

Its just my opinion

I just think, the add is tacky as it adds to stereotypical image which certain portions of the media associate with GAA

GAA = Alcohol

I Understand the concept of using the player target practice using bottles

Brings to mind, wild west, gun shooting, accuracy, the skill of a hurler etc.

Interesting concept (if not original)

But why question is this:

Why use bottles of ALCOHOL?

Why not empty bottles of bottles of milk or soft drink?

Why? Because ALCOHOL in advertising is portrayed as being cool, being hip, it will make you more attractive, tougher, more fun etc.

Now, here is a question for you Wex_lad

If they used ALCOHOL in the add, why not get Mullane to tuck a pack of Rothmans cigarettes into his top packet?

Your totally overanalyzing it

mccarthy37 · 12-07-2012 12:54pm

Jasus Tom Kelly Pat Short gets paid good money for material that is not as funny as this. More please to cheer us all up in this gloomy weather. This should be posted up on the dressing room wall it would inspire the team to have a good laugh.

solarith · 12-07-2012 1:00pm

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Jasus Tom Kelly Pat Short gets paid good money for material that is not as funny as this. More please to cheer us all up in this gloomy weather. This should be posted up on the dressing room wall it would inspire the team to have a good laugh.

Imagine the team walking into the dressing room on Sunday and this stuff plastered over the wall.. Would love to see a reaction there haha

deisedude · 12-07-2012 2:13pm

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

dont give up the job ,if you have one that is ,not your best utter tripe

You don't use capital letters and your grammar is all over the place and yet you are saying his posts aren't up to scratch! :eek: I've seen it all now!

solarith · 12-07-2012 2:21pm

deisedude wrote: »

You don't use capital letters and your grammar is all over the place and yet you are saying his posts aren't up to scratch! :eek: I've seen it all now!

I do love his/her use of a comma ,though.

mccarthy37 · 12-07-2012 2:47pm

solarith wrote: »

Imagine the team walking into the dressing room on Sunday and this stuff plastered over the wall.. Would love to see a reaction there haha

Especially after they won.

hardybuck · 12-07-2012 3:49pm

The most crucial area for us to get right this weekend is the half forward line again. I think the rest of the team is relatively settled in comparison to last year. Lawlor has settled into full back, Brick back to himself at centre back. Daniels will be up against it again this weekend should he start at corner back, I wouldn't be surprised if Tipp moved Corbett in on him.

The half forward line however, is easily our weakest line, and an area where Tipp generally dominate. Seamus Prendergast had a great day out against Clare, but he is not a top class centre forward. Kelly and Shanahan if picked are poor enough in terms of workrate and winning their own possession.

Should be be aiming to pull the half forward line back towards midfield and try and pack midfield? Bring Mullane into a roving role around the 40 and try and get him on the ball running at the Tipp backs, hoping he will draw fouls?

HillFarmer · 12-07-2012 4:13pm

hardybuck wrote: »

The most crucial area for us to get right this weekend is the half forward line again. I think the rest of the team is relatively settled in comparison to last year. Lawlor has settled into full back, Brick back to himself at centre back. Daniels will be up against it again this weekend should he start at corner back, I wouldn't be surprised if Tipp moved Corbett in on him.

The half forward line however, is easily our weakest line, and an area where Tipp generally dominate. Seamus Prendergast had a great day out against Clare, but he is not a top class centre forward. Kelly and Shanahan if picked are poor enough in terms of workrate and winning their own possession.

Should be be aiming to pull the half forward line back towards midfield and try and pack midfield? Bring Mullane into a roving role around the 40 and try and get him on the ball running at the Tipp backs, hoping he will draw fouls?

Think this is pretty much it. If we can gain parity in this line we will win.
Seamy pender to get man of the match and gavin o brien to score 1-3!

premierstone · 12-07-2012 4:16pm

HillFarmer wrote: »

Think this is pretty much it. If we can gain parity in this line we will win.
Seamy pender to get man of the match and gavin o brien to score 1-3!

If you gain parity there you win?? Are you saying in your opinion that Waterford are stronger in all other lines so?

banger01 · 12-07-2012 4:18pm

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Go to Dublin so!:D

hardybuck · 12-07-2012 4:20pm

premierstone wrote: »

If you gain parity there you win?? Are you saying in your opinion that Waterford are stronger in all other lines so?

Well we probably can't win without gaining parity here.

premierstone · 12-07-2012 4:26pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Well we probably can't win without gaining parity here.

Agreed, but thats a completely different statement

Parity here might not be as difficult as some are portraying either, quite frankly Paraic Mahers form so far has been very ordinary, Tom Stapelton in unproven and lacks genuine pace, COM is playing very well and is extremely solid, but as has been said Prendergast is probably the most solid of the W'ford line, so it will be interesting I think.

hardybuck · 12-07-2012 4:34pm

premierstone wrote: »

Agreed, but thats a completely different statement

Parity here might not be as difficult as some are portraying either, quite frankly Paraic Mahers form so far has been very ordinary, Tom Stapelton in unproven and lacks genuine pace, COM is playing very well and is extremely solid, but as has been said Prendergast is probably the most solid of the W'ford line, so it will be interesting I think.

Well I think COM and Prendergast should have a good battle. Could see that being a 50:50 duel.

I would expect Maher to dominate Shanahan. We need to keep ball away from him unless it is well placed ball straight into his paw. I'd expect Maher to win 30:70 balls off him.

Stapleton is a handy player I think. Didn't he do a very good job on Mullane last year? Regardless, he should be far too athletic for Kelly. The only think I expect Kelly to bring to the table now is his ability to be the joker in the pack, and maybe conjure a goal or two out of nowhere.

alllcounty · 12-07-2012 5:08pm

Is Tony Browne fully fit. I thought last year he was one of 3 players to have done well against Tipp in that mauling. The other two being moran and pauric mahony who scored 13 points.
If the half forward line pushed out there is no guarantee the tipp half backs follow them out. Normally the half back should hold its line. Kilkenny paid the price last week which is unusual for their standards.

Hslaw · 12-07-2012 5:11pm

[QUOTE Seamy pender to get man of the match and gavin o brien to score 1-3![/Quote]

I really hope your right.

hardybuck · 12-07-2012 5:12pm

alllcounty wrote: »

Is Tony Browne fully fit. I thought last year he was one of 3 players to have done well against Tipp in that mauling. The other two being moran and pauric mahony who scored 13 points.
If the half forward line pushed out there is no guarantee the tipp half backs follow them out. Normally the half back should hold its line. Kilkenny paid the price last week which is unusual for their standards.

I wouldn't blame the Kilkenny midfield too much. Galway had full forward line players in there rotating as well and they seemed to regularly get on the ball rather than just making up the numbers.

I think Kilkenny's inexperienced midfield were cleaned out, as well as Galway out-muscling them and playing with far more intensity. Dublin were successful at matching KK physically before, but they didn't have the class that Galway had in the forwards to punish them.

premierstone · 12-07-2012 5:24pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Well I think COM and Prendergast should have a good battle. Could see that being a 50:50 duel.

I would expect Maher to dominate Shanahan. We need to keep ball away from him unless it is well placed ball straight into his paw. I'd expect Maher to win 30:70 balls off him.

Stapleton is a handy player I think. Didn't he do a very good job on Mullane last year? Regardless, he should be far too athletic for Kelly. The only think I expect Kelly to bring to the table now is his ability to be the joker in the pack, and maybe conjure a goal or two out of nowhere.

No you are mixing Paddy Stapelton with Tom Stapelton, Paddy is a corner back who has been excellent for the last few years but has had an injury plaqued year, Tom is a big strong wing back who likes to come forward but this is he's first year starting and I personally think he lacks abit of mobility.

premierstone · 12-07-2012 5:29pm

alllcounty wrote: »

Is Tony Browne fully fit. I thought last year he was one of 3 players to have done well against Tipp in that mauling. The other two being moran and pauric mahony who scored 13 points.
If the half forward line pushed out there is no guarantee the tipp half backs follow them out. Normally the half back should hold its line. Kilkenny paid the price last week which is unusual for their standards.

I dont think Tony would be able to match any ot the starting Tipp HF line for 70 mins, Lar and Pa would absolutley burn him for pace and Bonner would well do a bonner on him, and persoanlly I'd hate to see alegend like Browne been shown up, which I think with the pace of the Tipp forwards he would.

Having said that wouldnt he be a great man to bring on with 20 mins to go to either close out a game or to give a lift to a team in a close match, he's hurling brain, calmness and experience would be invaluable in that scenario.

hardybuck · 12-07-2012 6:14pm

premierstone wrote: »

No you are mixing Paddy Stapelton with Tom Stapelton, Paddy is a corner back who has been excellent for the last few years but has had an injury plaqued year, Tom is a big strong wing back who likes to come forward but this is he's first year starting and I personally think he lacks abit of mobility.

Ah right. Well if Kelly is on him, his lack of mobility won't be an issue.

seananigans · 12-07-2012 6:59pm

mariano rivera wrote: »

No need to call me a <snip>

Its just my opinion

I just think, the add is tacky as it adds to stereotypical image which certain portions of the media associate with GAA

GAA = Alcohol

I Understand the concept of using the player target practice using bottles

Brings to mind, wild west, gun shooting, accuracy, the skill of a hurler etc.

Interesting concept (if not original)

But why question is this:

Why use bottles of ALCOHOL?

Why not empty bottles of bottles of milk or soft drink?

Why? Because ALCOHOL in advertising is portrayed as being cool, being hip, it will make you more attractive, tougher, more fun etc.

Now, here is a question for you Wex_lad

If they used ALCOHOL in the add, why not get Mullane to tuck a pack of Rothmans cigarettes into his top packet?

Did it ever occur to you large bottles are something that is associated with Waterford?

You could also argue the symbolism is of Mullane defeating alcohol or knocking it out of the way to achieve things.

hurler on de ditch · 12-07-2012 8:06pm

Psychedelic wrote: »

hurler on de ditch, you have some chip on your shoulder boy, don't think you ever post anything here that isn't having a go at another user or a rant against players/management/board/everyone really....think your vitriol would be better suited over on anfearrua.

look i say it as i see it ,it was the same when i said tony browne should not be in the team,then he is dropped and suddenly there is no mention of him ,we cant all have the same rose tinted outlook on the hurling team as most of ye ,as i said before i dont do chips,its like one post here that said i thought tony browne did well ,we got bet by 21 points ,and then mahony did well with his 13 points 12 of them from frees and the game over after 5 minutes some pressure on the free taker then ,

hurler on de ditch · 12-07-2012 8:14pm

premierstone wrote: »

I dont think Tony would be able to match any ot the starting Tipp HF line for 70 mins, Lar and Pa would absolutley burn him for pace and Bonner would well do a bonner on him, and persoanlly I'd hate to see alegend like Browne been shown up, which I think with the pace of the Tipp forwards he would.

Having said that wouldnt he be a great man to bring on with 20 mins to go to either close out a game or to give a lift to a team in a close match, he's hurling brain, calmness and experience would be invaluable in that scenario.

i agree with your assessment of where Tony Browne is at now ,BUT i think if you see Tony coming in id say we will be in big trouble probably on a hiding and its the last throw of the dice ,obviously if there going at training as hard as they should be and there is a wicked hunger for places ,to me that means tony is not able for our own forwards let alone tipps

glick6 · 12-07-2012 8:25pm

I have a feeling theres goong to be a surprise in the team. We'l wait til it's named officially. Shouldn't be long now!

glick6 · 12-07-2012 8:44pm

Named on twitter. Tony Browne in. Paudie Mahoney in. Foley and Kelly out.

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