Advertisement
Please note that it is not permitted to have referral links posted in your signature. Keep these links contained in the appropriate forum. Thank you.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2055940817/signature-rules
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

is road rage in ireland getting worse?

  • 06-07-2012 02:25PM
    #1
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    I heard on the radio just now there are road rage incidents where people get out of their car and punch the head off other drivers for overtaking..One guy produced a real gun to the driver who overtook him..

    I heard a good few cases now at least 3 or 4 so far,ive also read about the case in roscommon where a woman was beaten up and punched and thrown around the place by a man who was overtaken by her in a car..There was another incident where a miss ireland 2011 contestant got punched in a road rage incident.

    My question is do you think its becoming more common,and why,or is it just more reported?

    There was a case where a man got 12 years for killing another man in a road rage incident as seen here:http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0423/breaking23.html


    http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/around-town/miss-ireland-finalist-punched-in-face-in-roadrage-attack-2846689.html


«13

Comments

  • #2
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,770 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    My question is do you think its becoming more common,and why,or is it just more reported?
    The only people in a position to answer that are the Gardaí?


  • #3
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    More than likely, talking as someone who was pulled out of a car at traffic lights and headbutted once along with other altercations. Bad manners is a lot of it, one party being too thick to show some courtesy to the other.

    Since then, I've taken a very, very dim view of people who do that to other motorists. I hope they get what they deserve, each and every one of them, a slow and painful illness :)


  • #4
    Pdfile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    ive seen it before, mostly verbal but no matter what you do in life theirs bound to be arguments and or fights...


    just shocking that its taken this long to get this issue directly into the limelight


  • #5
    Sids Not
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    dgt wrote: »
    More than likely, talking as someone who was pulled out of a car at traffic lights and headbutted once along with other altercations. Bad manners is a lot of it, one party being too thick to show some courtesy to the other. :)

    What, i'm wondering did you do to deserve that.......???
    Anan1 wrote: »
    The only people in a position to answer that are the Gardaí?

    Not all incidents are reported......


  • #6
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,770 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Sids Not wrote: »
    Not all incidents are reported......
    True but, unlike us, they might at least have some clue.


  • Advertisement
  • #7
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Sids Not wrote: »
    What, i'm wondering did you do to deserve that.......???

    The asshole in question couldn't overtake me on an regional road. Had 4 other people in his car and was probably showing off, I'll be the big fella etc. Just to try and gain one miserable place. What a disgrace of a human. I hope, I really hope he meets a very sticky end someday.

    I don't wish things like that but I'll make an exception there


  • #8
    Veloce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    I don't know if it's getting worse but I don't think it's getting any better. I had a Dublin bus driver have a go at me last Wednesday on Baggot Street. He f**king and blinding at me even with passengers on board. Even making a w*nking gesture at me. In hindsight it was sort of funny.


  • #9
    piperh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 989 ✭✭✭piperh


    Guilty.... i suppose as i did get out and hand the driver in the car behind beeping my teenage learner son because son wouldn't drive into a junction box a highway code book and tell him he obviously needs to read it as he doesn't realise its an offense to block a box junction if you can't pass through it ;)


  • #10
    mikeecho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    piperh wrote: »
    Guilty.... i suppose as i did get out and hand the driver in the car behind beeping my teenage learner son because son wouldn't drive into a junction box a highway code book and tell him he obviously needs to read it as he doesn't realise its an offense to block a box junction if you can't pass through it ;)

    unless you are making a right turn

    http://www.2pass.co.uk/boxjunction.htm#.T_cqX3C9bnk
    UK site.. but same rules apple here


  • #11
    Veloce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    mikeecho wrote: »
    piperh wrote: »
    Guilty.... i suppose as i did get out and hand the driver in the car behind beeping my teenage learner son because son wouldn't drive into a junction box a highway code book and tell him he obviously needs to read it as he doesn't realise its an offense to block a box junction if you can't pass through it ;)

    unless you are making a right turn

    http://www.2pass.co.uk/boxjunction.htm#.T_cqX3C9bnk
    UK site.. but same rules apple here

    I thought this thread was about road rage and not road rules.


  • Advertisement
  • #12
    piperh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 989 ✭✭✭piperh


    mikeecho wrote: »
    unless you are making a right turn

    http://www.2pass.co.uk/boxjunction.htm#.T_cqX3C9bnk
    UK site.. but same rules apple here

    Yes i know but we weren't if we were we'd have been indicating ;)


  • #13
    newmug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Road rage isn't getting worse - bad driving is.


  • #14
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Ive encountered some bad driving in my times on the road,just driving there earlier i noticed there was a lot of overtaking,some passing and speeding like hell on one laneways into oncoming traffic,its madness..Its the one thing that irks me when on the road..


  • #15
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Never get out of your car!! cant believe how may men and women on joe duffy said "so i got to have a word with him/her,and the abuse i got back", just a matter of time before you get out to the wrong person,
    if your in the cars stay in it, lock your doors, ita alot harder kicking the crap out of person whos locked in the car.


  • #16
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    For me its better to put on a CD and cool off,no point in getting annoyed or acting on it,i wouldnt,and i wouldnt want it done to me either,but i have seen some life endangering moves that could have easily had me in a pile up of a crash,its not easy,but i find if you slow down and cruise,you have more chance of the hazard sorting itself out by the time you get to it..
    Worse thing you can do is speed into a hazard,ive seen people do that,all in their own world,rushing home for tea or late for work..


  • #17
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,497 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dgt wrote: »
    More than likely, talking as someone who was pulled out of a car at traffic lights and headbutted once along with other altercations. Bad manners is a lot of it, one party being too thick to show some courtesy to the other.

    Since then, I've taken a very, very dim view of people who do that to other motorists. I hope they get what they deserve, each and every one of them, a slow and painful illness :)
    dgt wrote: »
    The asshole in question couldn't overtake me on an regional road. Had 4 other people in his car and was probably showing off, I'll be the big fella etc. Just to try and gain one miserable place. What a disgrace of a human. I hope, I really hope he meets a very sticky end someday.

    I don't wish things like that but I'll make an exception there


    ... usually takes two to tango....
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78716736
    dgt wrote: »
    Anyone that tries to do that to me finds out I don't give in, I don't tolerate that crap. One asshole tried cutting in front of me on a roundabout, he ended up beached on the traffic island. Served him right


  • #18
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    RoverJames wrote: »
    ... usually takes two to tango....
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78716736

    Very good :D but, I don't agree with getting out and pulling someone out of a car

    Which I can say, my attitude problem stems from that incident ;)

    You conveniently forgot the rest

    dgt wrote: »
    I didn't run them off the road. It was their own ignorance, focusing on the place that they had their eye on as opposed to what was infront of them that led to them being beached on an island... Plenty of time to back off and meekly join the queue. Too busy trying to gain the place, hurrying to go nowhere...


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,497 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dgt wrote: »
    Very good :D but, I don't agree with getting out and pulling someone out of a car....

    Nor I but if you don't go fishing you won't catch a fish :)
    dgt wrote: »
    ............

    Which I can say, my attitude problem stems from that incident ;)...

    You should really have learned something else from the incident tbh imo.
    dgt wrote: »

    You conveniently forgot the rest

    :confused:

    forget the rest of what?
    Just saw your edit, as I said, it takes two to tango, they were wrong and you were wrong, they could have hit a child and not a traffic island, personally I wouldn't like to try and rationalise that one by saying they could have backed off etc etc bla bla.


  • #20
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    RoverJames wrote: »
    You should really have learned something else from the incident tbh imo.

    I sure did, don't underestimate what people can do. But we have those mornings where we just don't think. You know the mornings, tired, raining, running a bit late for work/college, dealing with Monday morning drivers... There's only so much one can take. I'm sure you are no exception too :)
    RoverJames wrote: »
    :confused:

    forget the rest of what?

    The story. I don't go out actively seeking trouble


  • #21
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,497 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dgt wrote: »
    ...........


    The story. I don't go out actively seeking trouble

    Hard to marry that with "other altercations" though :)
    Altercations are easily avoided.


  • Advertisement
  • #22
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Altercations are easily avoided.

    Very true.

    I am still a young fella with a cavalier attitude. With time, I'll grow out of that


  • #23
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    I think people should be tested for their attitude aswell as the actual mechanical driving of the car,as there are plenty of young people and older people who have passed their tests but end up on the road with the wrong attitude (like for example general impatience,thinking thier the centre of the world,speeding into hazards,or getting in a road rage incidents,getting out of the car to punch someone,all things that are not on,not good manners on the road)..


  • #24
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    I have to say that over the years I have mellowed a bit, slow driver in the right hand lane, no worries, people blocking junctions, he'll soon move on, obnoxious parking, not my problem and so on.
    Having said that I am also no longer on the road for a living, so not so much pressure to get anywhere.
    But I also have to admit that roundabouts still drive me crazy, in particular people who pass out an entire queue of traffic in the wrong lane and bully their way in at the last second.
    That's when the red mist descends. It just infuriates me no end. If a person stood in front of me, gave me the finger and told me to get fcuked, I wouldn't annoy me half as much. Many a rant has been written about that by me, but I realise that I will need to just get over it, however much it annoys me. So I promise to take a deep breath in the future and no longer squeeze them out as I race them through the roundabout. Will have to grow up sometime.

    /logs onto Amazon to purchase new age meditative whale song CD's.


  • #25
    spacecookie555
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭spacecookie555


    I was on a very thin country road a few months ago and I was going the speeding limit and there was this van behind me and he was right up my arse and kept trying to force me into the ditch so he could pass me out, he was beeping and flashing his lights and driving from side to side, I was terrified and also very angry, the road was not wide enough for him to pass me out, this went on for a while until we got to a junction and he passed me and forced me out of the way in the MIDDLE of the junction!! :o
    I was so upset but then the most amazing thing happened, the van had no back window and couldnt see behind him and who happened to have witnessed the whole thing but the guards!! They then passed me out and pulled him over, the last I saw they were roaring at him as he got out of his van. Ah most satisfying driving experience ever! :D


  • #26
    Sids Not
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    spacecookie555 wrote: »
    I was on a very thin country road a few months ago and I was going the speeding limit and there was this van behind me and he was right up my arse and kept trying to force me into the ditch so he could pass me out, he was beeping and flashing his lights and driving from side to side, I was terrified and also very angry, the road was not wide enough for him to pass me out, this went on for a while until we got to a junction and he passed me and forced me out of the way in the MIDDLE of the junction!! :o
    I was so upset but then the most amazing thing happened, the van had no back window and couldnt see behind him and who happened to have witnessed the whole thing but the guards!! They then passed me out and pulled him over, the last I saw they were roaring at him as he got out of his van. Ah most satisfying driving experience ever! :D

    Sooo many questions about your little story..where to begin..
    1..to force you into the ditch he'd need to be along side you.....:confused:
    2..you were terrified...why not pull into a gateway and let him pass..
    3..you were very angry....that answers no.2
    4..this went on for a while...sounds like you were enjoying the event a bit too..
    5..you were upset...that he passed you..??
    6..the Gardai pulled him in...whoo...happy days..?
    7..most satisfying driving experience ever.....road rage caused by you....:rolleyes:


  • #27
    miller50841
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Veloce wrote: »
    I don't know if it's getting worse but I don't think it's getting any better. I had a Dublin bus driver have a go at me last Wednesday on Baggot Street. He f**king and blinding at me even with passengers on board. Even making a w*nking gesture at me. In hindsight it was sort of funny.
    Would I be right in saying you cut in on bus, didnt indicate, pulled out, hit brakes very hard or something along the lines of that... a car is a lot different to driving a large vehicle like a bus or truck. The braking systems alone are totally different and what seems to you like normal braking/ slowing down when your traveling on a bus can feel like the driver has hit the brakes hard just try see the situation from the other side. I understand we are all human and make mistakes but everyone has a line and people can have very bad days.


  • #28
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Sids Not wrote: »
    Sooo many questions about your little story..where to begin..
    1..to force you into the ditch he'd need to be along side you.....:confused:
    2..you were terrified...why not pull into a gateway and let him pass..
    3..you were very angry....that answers no.2
    4..this went on for a while...sounds like you were enjoying the event a bit too..
    5..you were upset...that he passed you..??
    6..the Gardai pulled him in...whoo...happy days..?
    7..most satisfying driving experience ever.....road rage caused by you....:rolleyes:

    where you the guy driving the van then?


  • #29
    Veloce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    miller50841 wrote: »
    Veloce wrote: »
    I don't know if it's getting worse but I don't think it's getting any better. I had a Dublin bus driver have a go at me last Wednesday on Baggot Street. He f**king and blinding at me even with passengers on board. Even making a w*nking gesture at me. In hindsight it was sort of funny.
    Would I be right in saying you cut in on bus, didnt indicate, pulled out, hit brakes very hard or something along the lines of that... a car is a lot different to driving a large vehicle like a bus or truck. The braking systems alone are totally different and what seems to you like normal braking/ slowing down when your traveling on a bus can feel like the driver has hit the brakes hard just try see the situation from the other side. I understand we are all human and make mistakes but everyone has a line and people can have very bad days.

    No none of the above. The bus driver either was not paying attention or misjudged my position on the road. I asked the driver did he not see my indicator and all he did was give me the wa*ker gesture after f*cking and blinding.


  • #30
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    How about thread rage in Ireland?;)


  • Advertisement
  • #31
    Veloce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    RoverJames wrote: »
    dgt wrote: »
    Very good :D but, I don't agree with getting out and pulling someone out of a car....

    Nor I but if you don't go fishing you won't catch a fish :)
    dgt wrote: »
    ............

    Which I can say, my attitude problem stems from that incident ;)...

    You should really have learned something else from the incident tbh imo.
    dgt wrote: »

    You conveniently forgot the rest

    :confused:

    forget the rest of what?
    Just saw your edit, as I said, it takes two to tango, they were wrong and you were wrong, they could have hit a child and not a traffic island, personally I wouldn't like to try and rationalise that one by saying they could have backed off etc etc bla bla.

    You should really get a hobby, or get out more often.


Advertisement
Advertisement