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Pornography to blame for girls rape in todays society?Change of culture?Your thoughts

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    #32
    I Heart Internet
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    I don't think anyone is suggesting it doesn't have an effect Prinz - possibly a large effect but the notion of it turning swarms of kids into rapists is media scaremongering.


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    #33
    recylingbin
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    yeah i'm sure rape never existed in the past ever
    Yeah the vikings were hoors for playboy.


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    #34
    christmas2012
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    it does affect their beahvior to sex moreso though


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    #35
    christmas2012
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    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Sources?


    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Gang-rape-becoming-the-norm-for-many-young-girls-in-Ireland--159403845.html


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    #36
    smash
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Sources?
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Gang-rape-becoming-the-norm-for-many-young-girls-in-Ireland--159403845.html
    that report was discussed ages ago. It's very sensationalist.


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    #37
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Gang-rape-becoming-the-norm-for-many-young-girls-in-Ireland--159403845.html

    That was a silly headline dreamt up by the examiner when they got an Irish "expert" to mutter something vaguely affirmative about a study being carried out in the UK - an entirely different jurisdiction. It was a non story but gave a earth-shattering headline for parents of teens.

    That is not evidence.


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    #38
    Scanlas The 2nd
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    it does affect their beahvior to sex moreso though

    Is that the reason you feel the urge to arbitrarily put "cock" into sentences.

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056689457?page=1#post_79521449

    Maybe you should watch less porn do.


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    #39
    Corkfeen
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Gang-rape-becoming-the-norm-for-many-young-girls-in-Ireland--159403845.html

    All the findings are British stats... Overblown tabloid trash to be honest (headline in particular), gang rape is not becoming a 'norm' in Ireland....


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    #40
    christmas2012
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    what about this: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/16-year-old-girl-allegedly-gang-raped-for-6-hours-in-Cork-and-Limerick-139631163.html

    EDIT: this was a 16 year old girl gang raped...by...various men in ireland in locations in: cork and limerick.


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    #41
    Duggy747
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Gang-rape-becoming-the-norm-for-many-young-girls-in-Ireland--159403845.html

    Tabloid muck about something that was said in the UK


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    #42
    christmas2012
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    another case: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/terrified-gang-rape-claim-woman-arrested-during-trial-16117


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    #43
    Duggy747
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    what about this: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/16-year-old-girl-allegedly-gang-raped-for-6-hours-in-Cork-and-Limerick-139631163.html

    Doesn't say anything about kids gang raping kids, rather men allegedly raping a teen girl


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    #44
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    what about this: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/16-year-old-girl-allegedly-gang-raped-for-6-hours-in-Cork-and-Limerick-139631163.html

    EDIT: this was a 16 year old girl gang raped...by...various men in ireland in locations in: cork and limerick.

    Seems like a very serious single case. I note the accused are described as "men" not teens or youths....


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    #45
    Tym
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    Qoute from the judge
    The judge said: "You have not shown any sexual interest in children.



    "I'm satisfied it was impulsive and I believe you have become sexualised by your exposure to and the corruption of pornography. Your exposure at such a young age has ended in tragedy. It was the fault of the world and society."

    The word corruption makes his whole sentencing very, very suspicious. I'd love to know more about his past, religious beliefs, political affiliation, so on so forth.

    I don't really give any credence to people who look at the past in rose tinted glasses.


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    #46
    Tarkus
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    Porn though is sexualising our children and young teenagers,there is a pressure out there to have sex at an early age,and to be seen as the one who scores a lot,i know a lot of this you could say has been around,but porn does change our behaviour to sex..

    Or you could say that porn being more readily available than before should have more parent awareness/ involvement than ever before.....which it's not.

    Time to work on the solution instead of some finding a particular symptom to point the finger of blame at & being done with it.

    Takes a village to raise a child but apparently only one internet to destroy one...


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    #47
    brummytom
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    Ridiculous.

    99% of people watch porn, 99.9999% of people have sexual urges. Most people can control those urges, whether they watch porn or not.


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    #48
    Corkfeen
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    This topic is reminiscent of the days when Child's Play got blamed for the death of James Bulger... And guess what, it wasn't the movie's fault....
    brummytom wrote: »
    Ridiculous.

    99% of people watch porn, 99.9999% of people have sexual urges. Most people can control those urges, whether they watch porn or not.

    You're a young person, Brummy... Can you confirm that gang rape amongst young people is not becoming normal? :eek:


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    #49
    I Heart Internet
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    On the actual article that the OP refered to - for what it's worth, as 10000% appalling and wrong as the teenagers act was and regardless of the role (or otherwise...I suspect it did have some bearing) of the kids exposure to online porn, I think the judge got it right.

    Nothing could be gained by sending the kid to prison.


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    #50
    IM0
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    Im obviously watching the wrong porn :rolleyes: where can I get some of this gang RAPE porn :confused:


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    #51
    Brain Stroking
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    I stumbled on teens gang raping this morning on my way to work. Thought they were congregating before some exam (forgetting it is July and the year is flying) when i saw one bare teenage arse bobbing up and down between some spindly legs with tights hanging off the end of one foot.
    Had gone too far to turn away so slowly made my way past. Big crowd of them taping it on their phones. Shower of scamps. Fourth morning this week i've seen it.


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    #52
    christmas2012
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    gang rape porn is all over the internet,torture porn etc,its everywhere..


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    #53
    Haelium
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    I think this is more to do with the fact that adolescent males are horny ****s with low levels of empathy than it is to do with culture.


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    #54
    Intensive Care Bear
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    Well if watching porn can lead to rape i must be a rape bomb waiting to go off.


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    #55
    Brain Stroking
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    gang rape porn is all over the internet,torture porn etc,its everywhere..

    Really? I thought you had to go looking for it


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    #56
    christmas2012
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    Its easy to find on the internet,there is all types of porn obviously :pac:


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    #57
    starviewadams
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    So that judge is basically saying that it was porns/the modern worlds fault that the 14yo lad committed such a disgusting crime and not the fact that that there is something majorly wrong with the boy himselff?

    Bull****!


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    #58
    christmas2012
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    Personally myself,i think its a combination of both,yes i think the boy should take full criminal respsibility,but i also think that porn played a huge part in the boys attitude towards sex,and just decided as a result to try it out on a 5 year old..

    What would stop most boys from doing that i think is a conscience,put a guy with low empathy in front of a computer filled with all sorts of porn,and you might have such a result..


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    #59
    Chuck Stone
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    Porn is to rape as flapping your arms is to flying.


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    #60
    rossie1977
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    if its not porn to blame its violent movies, if its not violent movies its pro-wrestling, if its not wrestling its hard rock music, if its not hard rock music its videogames....

    ffs will this crap ever end, stop looking for a scapegoat and look at the individual(s) in question

    michael moore summed it up perfectly, why didn't people blame bowling for those whackjobs going on a murder rampage?? it was the last thing they did that day before heading off to the school


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    #61
    Daveysil15
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    christmas2012 wrote: »
    Porn though is sexualising our children and young teenagers,there is a pressure out there to have sex at an early age,and to be seen as the one who scores a lot,i know a lot of this you could say has been around,but porn does change our behaviour to sex..

    And do movies and video games change our behaviour to violence and drug use? A lot of rapists were abused themselves when they were younger.


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