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Car Stolen in 2009

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  • #62
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Frynge wrote: »
    If some unsuspecting person has handed over good money to find their purchase isn't theirs i will feel sorry for them

    what make and year is it? Unfortunately this happens and the unsuspecting owner is at the loss.

    It must not be on the U/T list, you did report it stolen at the time?


  • #63
    Frynge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    I would rather not say until i know if i'm getting it back for sure


  • #64
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    If the eejit that bought it had at the very least insisted on seeing the vlc before handing over money they wouodnt be in the position of having the car taken off them


  • #65
    omb0wyn5ehpij9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,066 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    When the new owner requested a new logbook, do they only give the reg? Or do they have to give the VIN number aswell?


  • #66
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    To get a new log book you have to report the old one lost or stolen I'm sure.


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  • #67
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,466 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Nope. They just say they don't have it.

    Yes, the VIN must be certified by a main dealer.


  • #68
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    I'd say tell the guards first your taking it back. they might want to dust for prints and investigate it before you touch it first for the report.

    glad you got it back though all the same !


  • #69
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Our man in Havana wrote: »
    Nope. They just say they don't have it.

    Yes, the VIN must be certified by a main dealer.

    Where a Vehicle Registration Certificate has been lost or destroyed Form RF134 must be completed and forwarded to the vehicle owner's local motor tax office. This form must be witnessed and stamped by a member of An Garda Siochana.

    http://www.transport.ie/roads/motortax/?lang=ENG&loc=2468#Change_of_Vehicle_Ownership


  • #70
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,466 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    That is where the RO has lost it. Very simple process.

    This is a situation where a 3rd party is claiming ownership, hence no VLC. They have to get the VIN verified and swear affidavits before solicitors before they can apply to be recorded as the RO and get a new cert.


  • #71
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,738 ✭✭✭flutered


    crosstownk wrote: »
    Insurance is neither here nor there. The stolen vehicle is still exactly that - a stolen vehicle.

    As far as I'm concerned it's the Gardaí who should be chasing the person who now claims to be in possession of the stolen vehicle. Surely the Gardaí have quicker and easier means to contact the Department rather than a normal Joe?

    Have I missed something here......?
    large amounts of coffee and breakfast rolls to be scoffed without interuption.


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  • #72
    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Can't have been on the road much without tax, would have been impounded you'd think at some stage. You'll have to go CSI on it when you get back, checking for receipts etc down the side of the seats.

    I know you don't want to tell us much about the car at this stage, but approx how much is the car worth?


  • #73
    milltown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭milltown


    Dying to hear how this pans out.

    Hopefully the car is still in good nick (pardon the pun). At this stage I can't see any possible way the OP won't be re-united with the car. Definitely leave it up to the Gardaí to remove it from wherever it is now though. Even if there was the slightest chance that the toe rag who stole it is the one trying to register it now, is that the type of person you want to meet face to face? Apart from that, I wouldn't relish being the one who has to tell the current "owner" that they gave away their hard earned cash for nothing.


  • #74
    Matt Simis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,574 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    I'd say tell the guards first your taking it back. they might want to dust for prints and investigate it before you touch it first for the report.
    Bless... 3 years of fingerprints? And what report, they arent doing any investigation into the theft anyhow.


  • #75
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Matt Simis wrote: »
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    I'd say tell the guards first your taking it back. they might want to dust for prints and investigate it before you touch it first for the report.
    Bless... 3 years of fingerprints? And what report, they arent doing any investigation into the theft anyhow.

    I know sounds bizarre but you never know. I meT who knew you would see your stolen car after 3 years !

    and sure the person who gave it to this person could be wanted for whatever.

    I'm just saying don't rule it out because of time

    also I think they would have to close a report for when it was stolen to say it was recovered and how


  • #76
    F-Stop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭F-Stop


    If it was me, I wouldn't go taking it from the current 'owners' drive without getting the Gardai on side. Even just to avoid a messy evening explaining that you didn't steal it as you owned it to begin with - the current 'owner' more than likely is a victim too and sees themselves as the current owner. It looks like you actually lucked out and will get your car back after 3 years of it being stolen, it also looks like some poor fecker will end up being more of a victim after handing over cash for your car and will be totally out on this one. No need to make it worse by taking it off their drive and making them think they've been robbed. Shame that the scum who did this to both of ye will be long gone and impossible to find.


  • #77
    Tomebagel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭Tomebagel


    Go get the car back yourself,whats the new owner gonna do,report it stolen?

    you cant report your car stolen if the car is already stolen:D

    what type car is it?


  • #78
    él statutorio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭él statutorio


    Tomebagel wrote: »
    Go get the car back yourself,whats the new owner gonna do,report it stolen?

    you cant report your car stolen if the car is already stolen:D

    what type car is it?

    If you read the whole thread you'd see that the OP doesn't want to say what type of car it is.

    Also the person who has the car currently mightn't even know they have a stolen car. They could've bought a car in good faith and are now just trying to get it registered. If it was taken off their driveway they probably would report it as stolen and if they didn't know the history, who could blame them?


  • #79
    Frynge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    Update:

    Department of transport are horendously bad to try and deal with

    Conversation this morning ended with,
    Call me back after lunch

    Turns out that person was on a half day:mad:

    Got dealing with another person who was ment to contact the gards and then call me back, she did neither.

    Called again at 15:50 and she said to talk to the garda and get him to call her personally. I asked would there be any trouble getting in contact at 16:30. Told, no not at all. Garda couldn't get trough on any number, so I've now to wait till tomorrow.


  • #80
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,466 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Shocking carry on from state agencies.


  • #81
    Frynge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    Our man in Havana wrote: »
    Shocking carry on from state agencies.

    As someone else already said
    The last hand doesn't talk to the right


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  • #82
    Pov06
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Pov06


    Our man in Havana wrote: »
    Shocking carry on from state agencies.

    Pretty much my opinion too.

    Sometimes it's impossible to get through to them when you need them :(


  • #83
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Tried to get through to the DoT myself today, couldn't believe my ears when I heard they had a lunch hour. One and a quarter hours no less, and then they knock off at 4.

    Apparently the DoT is trapped in the Eighties.


  • #84
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,896 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Op, just be sure that your written objection to the ownership transfer gets to them.


  • #85
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    mickdw wrote: »
    Op, just be sure that your written objection to the ownership transfer gets to them.

    That's not a bad idea, sounds like the staff are untrustworthy. If the ownership transfers your into a world of hurt.


  • #86
    MugMugs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    I love a good story thread query thing.

    Need a lift to Shannon to get these DoT biddies moving ?? ;)


  • #87
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,721 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Our man in Havana wrote: »
    Shocking carry on from state agencies.

    ...and this from the same crowd that will fine you €5000 for not registering a septic tank..........or jail you for 6 years over garlic.............but pay you €90k+ if you're a tax cheat ....

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #88
    Frynge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    mickdw wrote: »
    Op, just be sure that your written objection to the ownership transfer gets to them.

    They have the fax I sent them and a block is on the transfer already.

    Heading up to work now so I'll call them from there.


  • #89
    blastman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭blastman


    Stories like this give me hope, OP (also had a car stolen that hasn't been recovered yet). Let us know how it turns out.


  • #90
    MugMugs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Frynge wrote: »
    They have the fax I sent them and a block is on the transfer already.

    Heading up to work now so I'll call them from there.

    I assume you're kicking and screaming over this that they STILL have NOT given the new owners details to The Gardai?


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  • #91
    Frynge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Frynge


    To quote George Galloway
    This is beyond the ridiculous.

    Finally got the Garda talking to the department of transport to learn that the Garda are (apperantly) not allowed TALK to the department and it all has to be done in writhing.

    Starting to loose faith here.


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