Farming Chit Chat

bob charles · 02-07-2012 07:36PM

Just finished getting T2 on spring wheat around 2 weeks late, couldn't spray for the last 10 days and today just blew up lovely. ground conditions are very poor but for the last few days it felt like it was at final camp waiting to climb to the summit. twice on friday I was heading off spraying only for drops to appear. Final application to the maize is next spray job after dealing with a few late germinating wild oats in sugar beet :mad:

stanflt · 02-07-2012 07:41PM

bob charles wrote: »

Just finished getting T2 on spring wheat around 2 weeks late, couldn't spray for the last 10 days and today just blew up lovely. ground conditions are very poor but for the last few days it felt like it was at final camp waiting to climb to the summit. twice on friday I was heading off spraying only for drops to appear. Final application to the maize is next spray job after dealing with a few late germinating wild oats in sugar beet :mad:

is the maize under plastic

bob charles · 02-07-2012 10:52PM

stanflt wrote: »

is the maize under plastic

yip, its crazy to think that a few years ago when we used to grow all open maize that we always hit the "knee high by the 4th of july". for the last 3 years maize under cover has only reached this target. will be applying the normal goodies that I put on it working out under €10 an acre, makes a hugh difference on my soils though. Couple of patches of weeds to be controlled aswell. crop looking okay

johngalway · 03-07-2012 01:52PM

Strongly considering giving up the sheep farming and going into rice instead, already got the paddy fields for it.

moy83 · 03-07-2012 01:58PM

Todays rain is seriously sickening here when will it stop at all and give us a summer ?

johngalway · 03-07-2012 02:16PM

November

reilig · 03-07-2012 02:19PM

Its not looking good weather wise for the next 7 days anyway!!

Birdnuts · 03-07-2012 02:43PM

reilig wrote: »

Its not looking good weather wise for the next 7 days anyway!!

According to the Beeb and the Donegal postman, we could be stuck with this monsoon for the rest of the month:(

johngalway · 03-07-2012 02:51PM

Great, shearing in the wet then :rolleyes:

lakill Farm · 03-07-2012 03:34PM

Back about 12 years ago i use to have 2 ewes and always got the local butcher to kill the 2/3 lambs for the freezer. They grazed on the acre behind my parents and 1 acre behind next doors also (petrol free lawnmowers) place for 11 months and use to go to my uncles in august or september for 4 or 5 weeks :rolleyes: to the rams. This went on for maybe 6 years, uncle sold the sheep and ram and we did also.

Now - i have my own 50 acres all cattle and would love 2 or 3 ewes. I can let them graze with the calves and butcher the lambs like we use to.But my uncle hasnt sheep and it would be crazy to have a ram for 3 ewes. So question is, would a sheep farmer borrow a ram to me? what would he be watching out for? I use to work with a farmer who has alway 8 rams and before i ask i want to know what risks are they to his ram. my 3 sheep would be a "backyard idea" his is a commercial enterprise.
(ie if the risks are high i wount even ask him)

Username John · 03-07-2012 04:11PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

Back about 12 years ago i use to have 2 ewes and always got the local butcher to kill the 2/3 lambs for the freezer. They grazed on the acre behind my parents and 1 acre behind next doors also (petrol free lawnmowers) place for 11 months and use to go to my uncles in august or september for 4 or 5 weeks :rolleyes: to the rams. This went on for maybe 6 years, uncle sold the sheep and ram and we did also.

Now - i have my own 50 acres all cattle and would love 2 or 3 ewes. I can let them graze with the calves and butcher the lambs like we use to.But my uncle hasnt sheep and it would be crazy to have a ram for 3 ewes. So question is, would a sheep farmer borrow a ram to me? what would he be watching out for? I use to work with a farmer who has alway 8 rams and before i ask i want to know what risks are they to his ram. my 3 sheep would be a "backyard idea" his is a commercial enterprise.
(ie if the risks are high i wount even ask him)

When you say graze with the calves - are you setup fencing wise for sheep? If so - why not get more than 2, get 10 or 15 - then you could get yer own ram. They would live away outside happy enough for the winter. Buy a ram, leave him there for 5- 6 weeks, sell him again straight away afterwards. You shouldn't lose much to him, if you weren't too picky to begin with.

The big risk IMO is flock health - the rams pick something up in your care / off your flock - that they can then take back to the owners flock.

You could buy the 2 ewes from the man who would loan you the ram, and make the loan of the ram (for the first year) part of the deal.

Or buy 2 scanned-in-lamb ewes later in the year, that would take care of the problem for the first year at least.

But, in my opinion whilst some people will loan out rams, I dunno does anyone ever like it? I did once - as the lad was stuck and asked - and he was very thankful - I just wasn't happy myself doing it. I am sure they prob had better care there, but even still...

lakill Farm · 03-07-2012 04:16PM

see i would only have the 2 acres at my parents suitable for them fence wise . And i am not going running after 2 ewes any more

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maybe i could fence another few acres and get 10/15. Whats the ratio rams to sheep? 1 :20 if not sponged? any auld ram would do.

josephsoap · 03-07-2012 04:41PM

Any sign of aer a bit of high pressure anyone ? :mad:

Good loser · 03-07-2012 05:20PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

see i would only have the 2 acres at my parents suitable for them fence wise . And i am not going running after 2 ewes any more .

maybe i could fence another few acres and get 10/15. Whats the ratio rams to sheep? 1 :20 if not sponged? any auld ram would do.

Maybe your contact would let you put the 2 ewes in with his sheep for 3/4 weeks.

Kovu · 03-07-2012 06:27PM

josephsoap wrote: »

Any sign of aer a bit of high pressure anyone ? :mad:

Just the blood pressure this side :mad:

tismesoitis · 03-07-2012 09:47PM

brought in 35 more cows with their calves today. turning out to be a costly year with this sh1t!!!

johngalway · 03-07-2012 10:03PM

Man near me, nice fella now, made... tried to make hay last year. I saw him carting it from the field to the shed, it ended up black - and I mean black - in the bales. Got a lot of rain, standing water in the field, don't think it got a full dry day since it got cut.

Fast forward to this year.

I saw he had the outside of the field knocked, I had been watching the forecast and was :eek: Why now

Then the next day it was still just the outside knocked, so I thought maybe he's seen the forecast, which was for two wet days, then could go either way after that - it went wet...

That evening when I passed he had knocked the rest, so I suspect twas mower issues stopped him.

Fast forward ten days/a fortnight, he's been in the field today with the 360 machine gathering the "hay" into a corner with the bucket. Totally ruined, blackened, just like the field.

Hay will be dear this year methinks.

Kovu · 03-07-2012 10:27PM

Last two times we've moved the cattle they have broken through electric fence into the meadows:mad: Always one animal in certain along with a few variable others. Caught the b***h this evening, was just arriving into the field where a meadow is wired off under a passageway across to the pasture (waterpark at this stage) and seen her use one horn that was de-budded incorrectly lift the wire at a post until it snapped/bent a post in one field!!! Bloody, smart, hungry, yoke.....although it did impress a bit, she's for the vet tomorrow:D

kevthegaff · 04-07-2012 01:36PM

i have 25 acres of grass rented for silage, its brown at the but, will it be ok if its cut dry?:( its old grass

JohnBoy · 04-07-2012 04:15PM

how many dry days forecast would you want to be putting out fertliser?

field is on the side of a hill and dont want to wash it all down the hill.

I feel for lads with no first cut taken but I need to get fert out for the second cut.

wesleysniper38 · 04-07-2012 09:07PM

Mmm... I'd say in present conditions on moist ground you would need at least 2 following days with little or no rain...and after that you're hoping for "ordinary" rainfall after that!

I spread a ton of pasture sward this mornin on good ground so thats my theory.

blue5000 · 04-07-2012 09:27PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Last two times we've moved the cattle they have broken through electric fence into the meadows:mad: Always one animal in certain along with a few variable others. Caught the b***h this evening, was just arriving into the field where a meadow is wired off under a passageway across to the pasture (waterpark at this stage) and seen her use one horn that was de-budded incorrectly lift the wire at a post until it snapped/bent a post in one field!!! Bloody, smart, hungry, yoke.....although it did impress a bit, she's for the vet tomorrow:D

Had a similar yoke a few years back, solved the problem with a foot of 2 inch L iron bolted at one end to a chain around her neck, she never went near a fence again.

Kovu · 04-07-2012 09:30PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Had a similar yoke a few years back, solved the problem with a foot of 2 inch L iron bolted at one end to a chain around her neck, she never went near a fence again.

I would never be able to do that after running through a pass with a mains fence across it and I didn't see it.....detangling a mains fence from your legs while it's on high is not fun!!!

bogman_bass · 05-07-2012 09:09AM

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/3576997

would love to have this guy grading my cattle at the factory. U grade me h*le!

In related news sent a 22 month old limx bullock to the factory who got no meal and what could only be called adverage grassland management at best. graded R+3=

never finished a bullock that quickly before. he definatly left a profit after him

reilig · 05-07-2012 10:16AM

bogman_bass wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/3576997

would love to have this guy grading my cattle at the factory. U grade me h*le!

In related news sent a 22 month old limx bullock to the factory who got no meal and what could only be called adverage grassland management at best. graded R+3=

never finished a bullock that quickly before. he definatly left a profit after him

She looks more like a jersey cross!!

reilig · 05-07-2012 12:47PM

It may not be as bad as you think

Thursday, 5 July, 2012
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ADVANCE ALERT for possible heavy rainfalls in Dublin, Wicklow and parts of the southeast, starting Friday afternoon and lasting into Saturday morning. Potential for 20-40 mms rain. Also, ALERT for locally heavy showers or thundershowers today in east Ulster possibly spreading to parts of west Ulster and Connacht. Amounts 10-25 mms.

TODAY ... Many areas dry to start, but outbreaks of heavy, showery and possibly thundery rainfalls in east Ulster, spreading later (perhaps as more isolated showers) to west Ulster and north Leinster, inland Connacht. Otherwise, partly cloudy with more isolated showers than previous days, some areas staying dry. Amounts of rain 10-25 mms in north and central counties affected by this morning's outbreak, otherwise trace to 5 mms. Highs about 18-19 C in west and south, 16-17 C in north and east. Winds light to moderate E-NE 15-30 mph, stronger gusts in coastal east and north.

TONIGHT ... Cloudy with a few breaks, fog or mist patches, mild, isolated showers, lows 11-13 C.

FRIDAY ... Variable cloud to start the day with some sunny intervals, then low cloud and stronger east winds developing with outbreaks of rain, becoming heavy at times in the east and southeast. Potential for 10-20 mms rain on Friday and a further 10-20 mms overnight into early Saturday. This rain might cause some spot flooding especially in Dublin and Wicklow. Other parts of the country may see much less rain or even stay dry.

SATURDAY ... Overnight heavy rains in the southeast (10-20 mms), then some improvement with winds backing to northerly, further showers developing but these more widely scattered around the country, 3-5 mms further rain with these, morning lows 11-13 C and afternoon highs 16-18 C.

SUNDAY ... Partly cloudy, showers becoming more isolated, some places dry, lows about 10 C and highs 18-19 C.

OUTLOOK ... There is some chance of a few dry days or at least a more settled spell next week. Temperatures could edge up towards 20-21 C.

MT CRANIUM

redzerologhlen · 05-07-2012 03:21PM

bogman_bass wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/3576997

would love to have this guy grading my cattle at the factory. U grade me h*le!

In related news sent a 22 month old limx bullock to the factory who got no meal and what could only be called adverage grassland management at best. graded R+3=

never finished a bullock that quickly before. he definatly left a profit after him

I had a bit of a laugh at that myself earlier

johngalway · 05-07-2012 04:45PM

Jesus I think I'll buy a bicycle, looking for a car the last couple of days and would rather be shearing or putting back in prolapse!

1chippy · 05-07-2012 09:58PM

f*k the farming i'm off on my stag tomorrow, will be exceptionally ratty next week after afull weekend drinking .

wesleysniper38 · 05-07-2012 10:22PM

reilig wrote: »

It may not be as bad as you think

Hi Reilig its not lookin so bad here in the NW . The sun went down red there and I've a feelin we might get weather up here until monday. If its still dry at dinner tomorrow I'm gonna knock two fields that I was hoping for hay.
OPTIMISTIC OR WHAT!

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