Hostel in Oz bans all Irish from staying there

Stinicker · 29-06-2012 11:05PM

Crea wrote: »

My friend lives in the outback in Australia and says the Ozzies there are lunatics for their drink and drugs and not just the youngsters. She was a bit of a party girl here but she says she'd die if she tried to keep up with them.

Totally agreed, I visited Kalgoorlie in 2010 and it was like stepping back in time to the wild west; plenty Irish there too and they were fitting right in.

Australia as a nation is built on the Irish who always caused a bit of rucus so it is really just continuing the tradition of Irish emigration to Australia.

Sea Filly · 29-06-2012 11:16PM

prinz wrote: »

...all the while trying to convince ourselves that everybody thinks we're great.

Well, everyone does think I'M great. I'm different, you know.

:pac:

Pawwed Rig · 29-06-2012 11:25PM

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

a proper economy which produces things

Didn't we use to have one of those?

anhedonia · 29-06-2012 11:42PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Didn't we use to have one of those?

what the fuq did we ever produce ?

token101 · 29-06-2012 11:51PM

anhedonia wrote: »

what the fuq did we ever produce ?

Beef, dairy products, sh*tloads of alcohol and apparently a lot of maggot gobsh*tes intent on acting the gowl so far away from home that their parents can't tut at them.

token101 · 29-06-2012 11:52PM

It was always going to happen when you see some of the people going. It's nothing new either.

paddyandy · 29-06-2012 11:55PM

He right to ban them they're bad business and he's trying to make a livin'. Now you understand where the 'no irish' sign originated .

Precious flower · 30-06-2012 12:12AM

I feel sorry for the Irish people going over there to try to make a living, having to put up with these idiots coming over, getting total plastered and doing not much more and giving the hardworking Irish people over there a bad press as they're all lumped together. The sterotype of the drunk Irishman/woman is nothing to be proud of.

Mr. Loverman · 30-06-2012 04:34AM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

a proper economy which produces things

Didn't we use to have one of those?

Not really. At least no where near the scale of Korea.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 30-06-2012 05:17AM

Listen do you wan't to be 'Punch Magazine' apes??? Drunken troublesome creatures?? I've been around this planet and the feedback I've gotten is negative at best, we're not loved at all so get over over it. Try and be by a productive citizen in whatever you do and drop the inferiority complex to the rest of the world, they won't always be there to patronise you.

NakedNNettles · 30-06-2012 06:27AM

:D

Gotta laugh at some of the stupid ignorant comments against the Koreans here, what do you think Korea is? A third world country or something. Same ones spouting on about Australia, any of you ever even been outside Ireland?

I live and work in Korea, brand new cars (Kia, Hyundai, Audi, BMW) all over the roads, construction, business, manufacturing and technology are all booming here. The pace of this country is unrelentless and it all comes with an unemployment rate of 3-4%.

As for Koreans working farm jobs in Australia. Korea has a Working Holiday Visa scheme same as Ireland. These are all kids in their early 20's, their first chance to travel after university. Many have just finished degrees in fields of business, technolgy, engineering etc and speak english.

Hope you all learnt something about Korea now. :pac:

NakedNNettles · 30-06-2012 06:35AM

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Not really. At least no where near the scale of Korea.

True, cars, ships, chemicals, oil refining, all the high end stuff is manufactured in Korea.

Korean companies such as LG, Samsung etc outsource much of their manucturing to China as it is cheaper, similar to the Americans, ie Apple.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 30-06-2012 06:41AM

NakedNNettles wrote: »

:D

Gotta laugh at some of the stupid ignorant comments against the Koreans here, what do you think Korea is? A third world country or something. Same ones spouting on about Australia, any of you ever even been outside Ireland?

I live and work in Korea, brand new cars (Kia, Hyundai, Audi, BMW) all over the roads, construction, business, manufacturing and technology are all booming here. The pace of this country is unrelentless and it all comes with an unemployment rate of 3-4%.

As for Koreans working farm jobs in Australia. Korea has a Working Holiday Visa scheme same as Ireland. These are all kids in their early 20's, their first chance to travel after university. Many have just finished degrees in fields of business, technolgy, engineering etc and speak english.

Hope you all learnt something about Korea now. :pac:

Have you ever been over the border? What is the criteria for doing so? Myself and an acqaintance want to make a documentary on the DPRK. We want to approach our work from a neutral side, unlike so many others who scream injustice.

Ellis Dee · 30-06-2012 08:07AM

By the sound of it, Ireland is a lot better off without his kind of exploitative racist.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm a bit surprised, though, that anyone with a public house licence can impose a blanket ban on any nationality or ethnic group. If it is possible in Australia, the country seriously needs to look at its equality legislation and try to bring it up to our/EU standard. I wonder would he get away with it if he had an unpleasant experience or two with Jews, Black people ---?

:D

Some Australians can likewise be loud and rowdy, hold their drink badly and have wrecked the odd pub in their day, but that would hardly justify an Irish pub putting up a sign that said "No Australians".:eek:

Going by some of the comments here, I'd recommend visiting Korea (South, of course, because you can't get into the North) to see what a modern, prosperous country with awesome infrastructure looks like.:)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 30-06-2012 08:21AM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

By the sound of it, Ireland is a lot better off without his kind of exploitative racist.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm a bit surprised, though, that anyone with a public house licence can impose a blanket ban on any nationality or ethnic group. If it is possible in Australia, the country seriously needs to look at its equality legislation and try to bring it up to our/EU standard. I wonder would he get away with it if he had an unpleasant experience or two with Jews, Black people ---? :D

Some Australians can likewise be loud and rowdy, hold their drink badly and have wrecked the odd pub in their day, but that would hardly justify an Irish pub putting up a sign that said "No Australians".:eek:

Going by some of the comments here, I'd recommend visiting Korea (South, of course, because you can't get into the North) to see what a modern, prosperous country with awesome infrastructure looks like.:)

There are a few a lot closer to home.

Anywho, it's not racist, it's merely policy and he can't be forced to accept people he doesn't want to let in. Even if he was and said no black people, racism isn't actually a crime unless he's employing.

NakedNNettles · 30-06-2012 08:42AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Have you ever been over the border? What is the criteria for doing so? Myself and an acqaintance want to make a documentary on the DPRK. We want to approach our work from a neutral side, unlike so many others who scream injustice.

Are you having a laugh?

F that man. The DMZ is the most militarised zone in the world. You can't just wander on over for a day tour. You can't even approach the North from the South.

You'd have a better chance of getting to Pyongyang from Dublin then you would from Seoul which is 150 miles away. :pac:

Jack Daniels I · 30-06-2012 09:09AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Have you ever been over the border? What is the criteria for doing so? Myself and an acqaintance want to make a documentary on the DPRK. We want to approach our work from a neutral side, unlike so many others who scream injustice.

Good luck with that!

Clueless

fryup · 30-06-2012 09:11AM

Delancey wrote: »

Irish people like to delude themselves into thinking that '' sure doesn't everyone love the Irish ? ''

yep, gives some irish the green light in their heads to do carte blanche when abroad........and the whole euros *best fans in the world* will only add to it i'm afraid:o

Father Damo · 30-06-2012 09:23AM

Crea wrote: »

My friend lives in the outback in Australia and says the Ozzies there are lunatics for their drink and drugs and not just the youngsters. She was a bit of a party girl here but she says she'd die if she tried to keep up with them.

The article fails to point out that alot of hostels have a No Australians policy. I saw at let three occasions in a hostel were the police had to be called because of Aussie guests getting out of hand (usually fcukwits down in the city for a concert or a big rugby match).

For all those going on about Irish only drinking with other Irish in Irish bars you should realise that most local suburban Aussie bars are souless dumps. Massive in floor space with absoloutely sod all people under 60 drinking in them, most of whom are badly addicted to the fruit machines which infest most Aussie bars. No pints available, only schooners (a smaller beer glass). Most of them only have Australian tap beers available. Aussie beer ranges from merely drinkable to god awful. As for going in and having a quiet drink with a few mates, upon hearing your accent some drunk oul lads will come up to you and reckon you want to hear a 20 minute yarn about some Irish fella he knew back in the 50s. Very few of them have any live bands playing.

With all of that WTF would anyone drink in an Australian bar?

mandrake04 · 30-06-2012 09:26AM

Have to have a laugh.

I wouldn't exactly class these people as scum, in fact the majority are more or less exactly like most of the people on here.... no better nor worse. They just have an opportunity to get away from home and escape the recession, their major issue is they just grew up in the Tiger and now they think the world owes them. That doesn't make them scum, I class scum as muggers, housebreakers, rapists etc.

But the way some of these Tiger cubs get on you would think that having an Irish passport entitled them to some sort of special category where they can just come into someone else country and do what they want, almost think they are sort of untouchable and that Australia should be throwing out the red carpet for them. Then they come on posting in the Aus & NZ forum that they don't like this and they don't like that and they cant get a job, all the usual rubbish. The majority will be home after a year or 2 when their visa runs out.

I wouldn't say it gives us Irish who have been living in Oz a bad name, we already have established ourselves well enough for the mud not to stick. Although some clown did rub me up the wrong way a few weeks ago and being illegal was a big mistake on his behalf, hope he is enjoying the dole queue back in Ireland.

jank · 30-06-2012 09:26AM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

By the sound of it, Ireland is a lot better off without his kind of exploitative racist.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm a bit surprised, though, that anyone with a public house licence can impose a blanket ban on any nationality or ethnic group. If it is possible in Australia, the country seriously needs to look at its equality legislation and try to bring it up to our/EU standard. I wonder would he get away with it if he had an unpleasant experience or two with Jews, Black people ---? :D

Some Australians can likewise be loud and rowdy, hold their drink badly and have wrecked the odd pub in their day, but that would hardly justify an Irish pub putting up a sign that said "No Australians".:eek:

Going by some of the comments here, I'd recommend visiting Korea (South, of course, because you can't get into the North) to see what a modern, prosperous country with awesome infrastructure looks like.:)

Yes, because Europe is the bastion of equality? Give me a frigging break!

Pedant · 30-06-2012 09:36AM

I think an employer has the right to discriminate against who he/she chooses to serve or do business with (regardless of what reason) in the same way a customer has the choice of what products and services he/she wishes to purchase. I know that equality laws states otherwise though, but in my personal opinion equal rights should not go beyond property rights and equality of authority.

Priori · 30-06-2012 09:37AM

I don't get the impression the farmer is an "exploitative racist" - seems like he and his family felt genuinely in danger. Arson, alleged or not, is something most people would go to great lengths to protect themselves against.

Patrick Cleburne · 30-06-2012 09:47AM

Well done to him for standing up for his business and not letting these thugs destroy his business and his reputation.

Mr. Loverman · 30-06-2012 10:08AM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Going by some of the comments here, I'd recommend visiting Korea (South, of course, because you can't get into the North) to see what a modern, prosperous country with awesome infrastructure looks like.:)

It is possible to go to North Korea. I went two months ago. The visa takes a day to process.

Obviously it is no where near as modern, etc. as South Korea.

BabyMonkeyy · 30-06-2012 10:40AM

What the hell?? Yes there are a small minority of Irish people acting like idiots over here and getting into trouble without a doubt but its not as bad as its made out to be. The reason its making the news is because the Aussies are kinda racist and to be honest there stuck up ****e holes who couldn't give a ****e about anyone else only themselves and wouldn't know how to have fun if it bit them on the ass. If your anyway noisy, even a small bit, they will go mental. and all these people on here giving out about people they know who are scumbags etc etc coming over here wasting there life? were not all scumbags.

Richard Hillman · 30-06-2012 10:56AM

A load of the skangers that used to hang around my estate are over there now. All these lower rent people have "going away parties" to pay for their trips. Australia is too accessible now a days. Its turned into a massive southern hemisphere version of Santa Ponsa

fryup · 30-06-2012 10:59AM

BabyMonkeyy wrote: »

The reason its making the news is because the Aussies are kinda racist and to be honest there stuck up ****e holes who couldn't give a ****e about anyone else only themselves and wouldn't know how to have fun if it bit them on the ass. If your anyway noisy, even a small bit, they will go mental.

:rolleyes: aussies boring?? come on now

Duggys Housemate · 30-06-2012 11:00AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

There are a few a lot closer to home.

Anywho, it's not racist, it's merely policy and he can't be forced to accept people he doesn't want to let in. Even if he was and said no black people, racism isn't actually a crime unless he's employing.

Nonsense. Travellers here can claim discrimination if barred from a pub, as a group. So can any other ethnic group.

If this muppet emigrated back to Ireland and banned Australians he would be sued out of existence.

Back to the casual racism of the thread. As an Irishman who has lived in the US and the UK all Irish people I have worked with have been harder working and smarter, on average, than the natives.

Pawwed Rig · 30-06-2012 11:01AM

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Not really. At least no where near the scale of Korea.

In the 90's and 00's Ireland was manufacturing most of the computers in Europe and further. Most silicon valley companies had a presence her.
The Pharmaceutical sector was huge.

korea benefited hugely from Cold War politics. Biggest difference is Korean have their own manufacturers whereas Ireland has always relied on direct investment. Not really a fair comparison between the 2 as their is a huge difference in populations. Would be better comparing Korea and Germany

South Korea obviously

jank wrote: »

Yes, because Europe is the bastion of equality? Give me a frigging break!

It's better than most places in the world

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

If this muppet emigrated back to Ireland and banned Australians he would be sued out of existence.

It is not illegal to discriminate against Australians. It is illegal to discriminate against travellers or because of ethnic origin.

Hostel in Oz bans all Irish from staying there

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