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Hostel in Oz bans all Irish from staying there

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭scdublin


    Can't really blame him if the Irish people he has had have destroyed the place and scared his family!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭wilkie2006


    RATM wrote: »


    Another Irish racist so.....just this time he's racist against his own:pac:

    Ah, hold the fcuk on here. There's nothing racist about it at all. The owner has clearly given Irish backpackers a chance and realised that they're taking the pi$$ out of him. By the time I was leaving San Diego (J1) I was almost embarrassed to be associated with Irish students, given the cnutish, loutish behaviour of the majority of my compatriots. By the sounds of it, Irish people are knocking around Australia, treating the country like a chavs' holiday camp. Backpacking's not an excuse to act the bo11ocks in someone else's country. The fact that the owner is Irish probably means that he's shown more tolerance - and taken a lot more $hit - than most would have, yet he's still obliged to take these radical steps.

    Here's an idea - instead of lambasting the patron of this hostel, how about we all contact people we know in Australia and petition them to stop acting like stereotypical children of the Celtic Tiger and destroying our reputation?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    sounds like he is running a korean slave farm
    Yeah, good one. Sounds to me like a lot of tossers are giving the Irish a bad name abroad and that the Koreans are better workers. But good choice of what to take from the story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Slagging off the Irish while two of his teenage kids still live here.

    Doubt very much that the 40 Koreans(can you say cheap labour?) he hired last week are legal.

    Smart man.

    :pac:

    Do you have evidence they are not? Irish on the other hand...

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Increasing-number-of-Irish-working-illegally-in-Australia-123708654.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭Trigger13222


    Seriously are people saying that every one that travels to Oz is a waster or scum , go fk yer self's ye stuck up mommy's boys .(never been in oz)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭bijapos


    Nothing new here, around 1990 it was nigh on impossible for an Irish person to get a job in BMW in Munich as the ones they employed were so bad at the job, sometimes boasting of sabotaging cars when they were back in Thalkirchen campsite, huge absenteeism and loads of other problems. They thought they were the bees knees, bunch of wanna be hard men but all they did was screw it up for the future.

    Holland was no different, time was when you could get OK work picking tulips or working in the market gardens but the Irish screwed it up and seemed to be proud doing it as well.

    Problem is a small pile of spoilt fcuktards tend to wreck it for the majority of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Misty Chaos


    Speaking as someone who is planning to go to Australia later on this year ( I actually have wanted to go for a damn long time even before the recession, mind you! ) I find the behavior of the scumbags I've being hearing about appalling. I tend to agree with the owner here but at the same time, wonder if this will start a bandwagon, that I'd get associated with because I am Irish.

    I've personally blacklisted staying in Bondi Beach in Sydney and Northbridge in Perth because of the horror stories about unruly Irish I've heard about. I don't want to associate with those types of people, thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Seriously are people saying that every one that travels to Oz is a waster or scum , go fk yer self's ye stuck up mommy's boys .(never been in oz)
    My Mammy says it's rude to use bad language and I should not read any more of the sh1te you post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Salt001


    The Irish who behave like that are the same ones that would be found every Friday or Saturday night wrecking any town/city in Ireland.
    Its a pity that its happening but they have simply brought their way of life with them
    Also in the mix I think there are probably people who wouldn't behave this way at home but because they are thousands of miles from their own country they think it will never catch up with them.It will when the Oz cops have enough and start cancelling their visas and shipping them home.
    The cops in Perth have written to the GAA clubs in the area and asked them to spread the word in the Irish communities that they are going to take a zero tolerance attitude towards behaviour like this.
    It was actually cops who are ex-pats though that were hoping that the clubs might get through to people that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable from any nationality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭beanie10


    Sounds about right, any lad I know who went over to `look for work` had no intention of doing so just to act the bollox. Feel sorry for their parents who believe their children are brave and travelling to far side of the world to look for work. The big going away parties that was thrown for them too, its a joke- absolute wasters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Feathers


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Its his business I assume he has a right to refuse entry to whoever he wants and he's of the opinion that an Irish person is more likely to cause damage to his property given his experiences.

    Racism or good business ?


    So in that case, I presume the president of Portmarnock Golf Club has a right to refuse enter to whoever he wants and if he's of the opinion that a woman golfer is more likely to cause damage to the greens given his experiences, he's perfectly entitled to a men-only golf club?

    Prejudging every Irish person on the basis of their being Irish is precisely the definition of racism! (Using it in the UN sense, before anyone starts getting picking about Irish people being Caucasian :p)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    How long before the visas dry up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Doubt very much that the 40 Koreans(can you say cheap labour?) he hired last week are legal.

    South Korea is not a poor country. Their wages are quite high and they actually have a proper economy which produces things, e.g. Samsung, Hyundai, LG, KIA, Lotte, etc.

    I've been to Korea. It's nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭beanie10


    Ah yes these great young brave guys who were soo let down by their own country had to find work in foreign countries. These guys wouldnt work in a fit. It was always the well known guys that left, unfortunately they were well known for wrong reasons. Yeah you know the ones racing each other in their cars with drink on them, crashing through your parents front wall, arrive an hour later with a jeep to pull they evidence out promise to fix it next thing you hear they are gone to Australia.

    Good fcuking riddance if you ask me, Scum with money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    The hostel owner could have put it better but I can understand where he was coming from. I dont think the way to handle it is to say no Irish but It shows the type of Irish that are going to oz. Im not saying that every Irish person that goes to oz is a a-hole but some of the biggest grassholes I know went to oz and wrecked the place.

    A lot of them are the same celtic tiger cubs who landed high paid construction jobs over, put in no effort and bragged about the amount of money they were geting. Austrailia by all accounts is a very welcoming country (never been myself but plan too) so its a shame that the few wreck it for the majority. He could of taken credit card details and deposits of irish guys instead of saying no Irish though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    Feathers wrote: »
    So in that case, I presume the president of Portmarnock Golf Club has a right to refuse enter to whoever he wants and if he's of the opinion that a woman golfer is more likely to cause damage to the greens given his experiences, he's perfectly entitled to a men-only golf club?

    Prejudging every Irish person on the basis of their being Irish is precisely the definition of racism! (Using it in the UN sense, before anyone starts getting picking about Irish people being Caucasian :p)

    If he owns the golf course and admittance is at his leisure (or whatever way its worded) then yeah. Every business should have the right to deny anyone entry if they think that person likely to be detrimental to the business and other customers. You cant treat all groups the same when one group is costing you money.

    Its not racist as such I dont think, its changing your target market to benefit the business. He is not saying no Irish because he hates Irish people he's saying it because Irish people are the ones doing the damage and he's trying to protect his business. He's viewing it as statistics, most of the damage is done by Irish people, local farms dont want Irish workers, so it makes zero sense to keep accepting Irish people who will cost him money when he could be making money by only taking those the farms want to hire who will stay in the area longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    Irish people like to delude themselves into thinking that '' sure doesn't everyone love the Irish ? ''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    i worked in a hostel, if a foreigner got sick or even spilt something they went looking for a mop or came up to apologise. the Irish on the other hand would vomit on the bed, piss or **** in the corner and say nothing. friends of mine run b and Bs and this seems to happen a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The hostel owner could have put it better but I can understand where he was coming from. I dont think the way to handle it is to say no Irish but It shows the type of Irish that are going to oz. Im not saying that every Irish person that goes to oz is a a-hole but some of the biggest grassholes I know went to oz and wrecked the place.

    A lot of them are the same celtic tiger cubs who landed high paid construction jobs over, put in no effort and bragged about the amount of money they were geting. Austrailia by all accounts is a very welcoming country (never been myself but plan too) so its a shame that the few wreck it for the majority. He could of taken credit card details and deposits of irish guys instead of saying no Irish though.

    I know the Irish in Munich were notorious for renting a flat and wrecking the place. not all of them behave like this but the minority causing the hassle need to cop on to themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    there most be some disgraceful irish people going to oz


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I don't actually blame the guy.

    I lived in Oz for a few years, and there are parts of the country, especially around Perth and Sydney, where I was actually embarrassed to admit I was Irish.

    We like to make jokes about the English causing hassle when they go on holiday to Spain and places, but the Irish can act so much worse around Australia. It's as if they arrive in Oz and suddenly decide the rules no longer apply.

    That's not to say everyone who goes there acts like that, but it is a disturbingly large amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭fran17


    god we'll never shake of the drunken eijit tag will we.better have em over there though than sponging of the tax payer over here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    From the point of view of someone who is young, Irish, travel-inclined, and not an asshole, it's gob****es like these, or the ones that go off to San Diego and the likes for the summer who ruin it for the rest of us, or, in my case, makes me hesitant to travel/live abroad at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    is it the lads on j1s or the lads working that are the problem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭[-0-]


    The clowns I know who went to Oz were dole heads (the kind that did not want to work) for several years, alcoholics, etc.

    Oz can have them. It's a penal colony after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    [-0-] wrote: »
    The clowns I know who went to Oz were dole heads (the kind that did not want to work) for several years, alcoholics, etc.

    Oz can have them. It's a penal colony after all.

    Not really.

    I lived there back from the late 90's to 2002 and they had the exact same attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What is it about Australia that entices so many scumbuckets to visit? There's just as many more Irish people living in the US, and other places right now and you never hear of them being banned wholesale by establishments.

    The place is a xenophobic shitheap. Look at the outrage that happened here over taxi drivers displaying a green light on their car. Many of the people that took offense to that are here defending the people disallowing Irish people in general from entering their premises. You should all fcuk off to Australia imo. You'll pick up some alternatives to the self hatred you currently experience.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    ''Is Australia tainted by the Irish?
    Thursday, December 15th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    The Irish baby boomers in Australia like to make merry because they have something to celebrate, having left a country that promised them everything but left them with nothing. But do they deserve their loutish reputation, asks Shaunagh Connaire.

    There is an estimated 300,000 Irish living in Australia and a few months ago I travelled there to visit the manifold emigrants of Generation Y, better known as my siblings and friends. Admittedly, I entered the country with many pre-conceived prejudices about the Irish backpacker lifestyle Down Under. Quite frankly, I did not want to meet this ill mannered and oafish plague, whose panache for drinking ‘Goon’ in the company of their county colour comrades have prompted many to shun the Australian visa, even in these difficult times. Remarkably though, after four weeks of Sydney, Gold Coast and Perth bliss, I seem to have eschewed this stereotype.

    This is what I did observe. The untold story if you will.

    My first acquaintance was with an Irish engineer in her twenties, based in Sydney and working full time in the medical industry. Every Wednesday evening she volunteers for ‘Active After School Community’ (AASC), an Australian government-led initiative. This programme provides disadvantaged children with the opportunity to participate in sport after school in an effort to reduce future health costs, by preventing children from requiring treatment for obesity.

    When probed about the typical Irish stereotype down under, she says: ‘There is no doubt that the Irish, including myself, enjoy a few drinks over here but being verbally attacked constantly by our own national media is becoming tedious, not to mention unoriginal. I pay Australian taxes like most other Irish people here and I try to give back to the community when I can. It’s just a shame that the minority always catch the attention of the press and we all get pigeonholed in the process.’

    Another Irish engineer, early thirties, spends his weekends teaching Aussies between the ages of 6-12 Gaelic football. Along with other Irish volunteers, he helps to organize kids’ tournaments between AFL teams and newly formed GAA teams in order to promote the Irish sport Down Under. In a bid to make the sport more sustainable in Australia, this group of volunteers are trying to reduce the dependence on the fleeting nature of the Irish backpacking community, and involve Australian kids in GAA from a young age.

    My third acquaintance: an Irish tradesman living in Brisbane, working full time in the air-conditioning and refrigerating industry. When cyclone Yasi hit Queensland in February he decided to set up his own ‘mud army’ and go from door to door to help with the clean-up and use his expertise wherever possible. Thousands registered with Brisbane council to help the worst hit areas, and this Irish tradesman says that many of these were young Irish people who saw the damage on TV and wanted to do their part.

    When asked about the typical Irish stereotype in Australia he says: ‘I have heard some things about the backpackers but its a lot worse in certain areas of Australia I think. I don’t think police or locals have much time for them down at Bondi or other party areas where there’s alcohol involved.’

    Yes. The Irish baby boomers in Australia like to drink. They like to make merry because they have something to celebrate. They have left a country that promised them everything but left them with nothing. They have left a country where white-collar crime remains unscathed while unemployment soars above 14%.

    1,000 people are expected to leave Ireland every week in 2011. This is a huge problem, which will have inconceivable repercussions for the future of our aging nation. So while we continue to publicly decry our own for their ostensible debauchery in Australia, maybe we should think again. It is the minority who warrant this typecast. The majority are an assiduous and admirable bunch and we should think before we begin to vilify and alienate them. This is the generation that we should want to come home. This is the generation that will have the resources and experience to lead Ireland and restore any archaic ideals that we are in fact a nation to be taken seriously. And we are not a nation who turns its back on its own. ''


    I agree with the sentiments,of what we are facing and the pickle/predicament we are all in because of the fact we decided to pay the banks back in 07/08,(which i think was our first big mistake amongst many others),there are people who have committed white collar crime and have gotten away with a lot.If it was the USA (remember the enron scandal?)it would have been quite different,the justice system there would have thrown the book at them.
    No job creation has been made,theres only FAS or JOBBRIDGE,and they hog up what could have been a paid job advertised,there job blockers,weve all this to face if we decide to stay in our own country.
    I have thought about emigration myself at one stage,its one of the hardest decisions a native can make to leave their country with generations of history.

    But all that aside i think if he wants to ban irish people and their custom,because of a few incidents thats his business,hes quite entitled to,there are a lot of holiday makers who go out of their way to cause trouble,and its an unfortunate situation.But hes running a business,all the extra cost of having to sort out things after a few chairs are thrown or windows broken or whatever is no picnic,on top of the usual strains of running a business..


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Viviana Delicious Legume


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Slagging off the Irish while two of his teenage kids still live here.

    Doubt very much that the 40 Koreans(can you say cheap labour?) he hired last week are legal.

    Smart man.

    :pac:

    That's embarrassingly ignorant. South Korea is a wealthy, developed country. Doing much better than Ireland.

    I totally see where this guy is coming from. The majority of Irish people I ever meet abroad are just constantly on the piss. They think they have a God-given right to drink every night, behave however they like and turn up to work hungover and do a terrible job. Not all of them, but a significant majority. I've spent a lot of time convincing employers and landlords that I'm not like that. There is a MASSIVE sense of entitlement left over from the Celtic Tiger times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Crea


    My friend lives in the outback in Australia and says the Ozzies there are lunatics for their drink and drugs and not just the youngsters. She was a bit of a party girl here but she says she'd die if she tried to keep up with them.


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