Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

Dempsey · 18-06-2012 06:13PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

No, otherwise UEFA would ban all other Scottish clubs from European football.

Oh, wait

The SFA will terminate your membership before it gets to that

blahfckingblah · 18-06-2012 06:15PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

And for those who want to know: Ioannidis is a Celtic fan

no real alternative

lubo_moravcik · 18-06-2012 08:01PM

How are The Zombies today?

Jelle1880 · 18-06-2012 08:16PM

Probably in Bairds, watching 'their' Ireland

lubo_moravcik · 18-06-2012 08:41PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Probably in Bairds, watching 'their' Ireland

Sean of the Dead

Mon The Zombies

Dempsey · 18-06-2012 10:12PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Probably in Bairds, watching 'their' Ireland

Are you supporting Germany or France?

Jelle1880 · 18-06-2012 10:15PM

Whoever wins me some money.

Dempsey · 18-06-2012 10:44PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Whoever wins me some money.

You'll be out of pocket so! :P

http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/why-rangers-can-vote-on-4th-july-and-how-the-spl-and-rangers-are-in-error/

A very good read

Dempsey · 19-06-2012 12:39AM

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4380923/Wipe-em-out.html

FURIOUS SPL chairmen want to strip Rangers of SEVEN league titles — if the crisis-hit club are found guilty of making dodgy payments to players.

Yer lucky that the SPL only goes back to 1998!

PauloMN · 19-06-2012 06:55AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Whoever wins me some money.

Nicely edited....

Deutschland über alles.

J Cheever Loophole · 19-06-2012 07:38AM

Dempsey wrote: »

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4380923/Wipe-em-out.html

Yer lucky that the SPL only goes back to 1998!

To be honest, I cannot understand why there has not been more talk of stripping Rangers of several of their titles and cup successes in this period. I'm sure something similar has happened before in Italy. It seems like natural justice to me.

PauloMN · 19-06-2012 07:53AM

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

To be honest, I cannot understand why there has not been more talk of stripping Rangers of several of their titles and cup successes in this period. I'm sure something similar has happened before in Italy. It seems like natural justice to me.

I think that's simply down to the uncertainty of the situation at the moment i.e. will the new entity be punished for the wrong-doings of the old entity. A lot of that depends on how the vote goes I guess. If it's a "no", the new club head to Division 3, and talk of stripping titles will fade I'd imagine. If it's a "yes", then WW3 will break out and title stripping will be one of many punishments that will be talked about.

J Cheever Loophole · 19-06-2012 08:42AM

PauloMN wrote: »

I think that's simply down to the uncertainty of the situation at the moment i.e. will the new entity be punished for the wrong-doings of the old entity. A lot of that depends on how the vote goes I guess. If it's a "no", the new club head to Division 3, and talk of stripping titles will fade I'd imagine. If it's a "yes", then WW3 will break out and title stripping will be one of many punishments that will be talked about.

With respect Paulo, I don't understand how this issue is dependent on where Rangers go from here. I think it is beyond doubt that Rangers won the titles by effectively cheating - acquiring players that they shouldn't have had - and therefore should forfeit these same titles. That should happen regardless of what subsequently transpires.

PauloMN · 19-06-2012 09:01AM

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

With respect Paulo, I don't understand how this issue is dependent on where Rangers go from here. I think it is beyond doubt that Rangers won the titles by effectively cheating - acquiring players that they shouldn't have had - and therefore should forfeit these same titles. That should happen regardless of what subsequently transpires.

Not arguing the case - just trying to explain why it's not top of the agenda! We don't even know who Club 12 will be in the SPL yet ffs!! Stripping titles is not something that needs to be done in a hurry. Sorting out this mess with the Newco is.

Jelle1880 · 19-06-2012 09:03AM

PauloMN wrote: »

Nicely edited....

MOD ABUSE :mad:

The 'bringing players in they couldn't have afforded' argument doesn't really hold up, since from around 2003 Rangers have been downsizing big time.
Utter dross like Capucho, Emerson, Ostenstadt,... was brought in.

J Cheever Loophole · 19-06-2012 09:52AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The 'bringing players in they couldn't have afforded' argument doesn't really hold up, since from around 2003 Rangers have been downsizing big time.

You mean they cheated less since 2003? :rolleyes:

Jelle1880 · 19-06-2012 10:00AM

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

You mean they cheated less since 2003? :rolleyes:

You said they had players they wouldn't have been able to get, that's why I said it.

TheBuilder · 19-06-2012 10:29AM

Did Celtic win any trophies in the time Juninho was at the club?

lubo_moravcik · 19-06-2012 10:33AM

TheBuilder wrote: »

Did Celtic win any trophies in the time Juninho was at the club?

We won the Scottish Cup in 2005

edit: as far as i know Juninho never got a medal, he wasn't in the squad that day anyway.

Dempsey · 19-06-2012 10:49AM

TheBuilder wrote: »

Did Celtic win any trophies in the time Juninho was at the club?

Juninho didnt have a dual contract though

lubo_moravcik · 19-06-2012 10:53AM

Dempsey wrote: »

Juninho didnt have a dual contract though

sssshhhhhhhhhhh

Pompey Magnus · 19-06-2012 01:51PM

Walter and his consortium have pulled out, he did wish the new Rangers club well though...good to see he isn't claiming that the old club still exists under a new company name.

Savage Tyrant · 19-06-2012 02:22PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18503656

Walter Smith group drops bid for club

The consortium led by former manager Walter Smith has withdrawn its offer to take over the 'newco'

It really is the gift that keeps on giving... You couldn't make this up!

PauloMN · 19-06-2012 02:36PM

Surely the Swallow Swallow servers won't be able to handle any more meltdowns? :eek:

ColeTrain · 19-06-2012 02:38PM

Looks like he walked away..

PauloMN · 19-06-2012 02:42PM

Wonder will Ally walk away now as well? Got the impression he might have stayed on the news that Smith was going to be involved..... maybe not now.

Savage Tyrant · 19-06-2012 02:42PM

PauloMN wrote: »

Surely the Swallow Swallow servers won't be able to handle any more meltdowns? :eek:

Man, you have to read the thread over there titled "Sir David Murray... You utter utter" .... It's fúckin GOLD!

ColeTrain wrote: »

Looks like he walked away..

BOOM!!!

Dempsey · 19-06-2012 02:45PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18509619

BBC Scotland has learned that Charles Green's Sevco 5088 company is not currently permitted to inherit the name 'The Rangers Football Club'.

Any attempt to adopt the name 'The Rangers Football Club' would require the approval of the liquidators, BDO.

LOL, did they really expect to be able to take that name without running into problems?

J Cheever Loophole · 19-06-2012 02:46PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You said they had players they wouldn't have been able to get, that's why I said it.

You can choose any timeframe you want and study the minutiae within that timeframe - the bottom line is that trophies were gained in extremely dubious circumstances; circumstances that gave an unfair advantage - it follows that trophies should be forfeited.

Savage Tyrant · 19-06-2012 02:49PM

Dempsey wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18509619

BBC Scotland has learned that Charles Green's Sevco 5088 company is not currently permitted to inherit the name 'The Rangers Football Club'.

LOL, did they really expect to be able to take that name without running into problems?

Better and funnier this gets every minute... And here was me thinking yesterday it was gonna be a quiet 2 weeks till the 4th.

And it's nowhere near December 25th

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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