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How do they get away with it?

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  • #32
    Pottler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Personally, I want to start importing Imaginary clothing, none of your Real muck - if I can only persuade enough people to buy it, I'm elected. I reckon the production and shipping costs would be very low - Nike Air max for €2 is my target. Easy to store and hide too.


  • #33
    little swift
    Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭little swift


    real leather -1
    fake leather + 1

    fake leather saves the anamils from been slaughtered and been used as handbags.


  • #34
    Pottler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    little swift wrote: »
    real leather -1
    fake leather + 1

    fake leather saves the anamils from been slaughtered and been used as handbags.
    +1. I prefer Fur anyday over leather, much softer. But sadly, you are conveniently ignoring the plight of the millions of fake cows and replica Crocodiles being raised in inhumane conditions in factory farms all over Asia, just to feed the Counterfeit trade.


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Apelles wrote: »
    You can't simply blame the gardai, they've got much more important things to be doing . . Like eating & stuff.

    Do we really want our guards wasting time protecting some copyright holders in France or Italy?

    It's not an industry as severe as drugs.. Buying a fake bag doesn't have blood on it so if people want to buy it, let them at it. It's not like they'd ever be able to afford the real thing anyway.. Same as people with 60k songs on their computer.

    When an industry counts their losses for the media, they assume everybody would have bought the real thing if they hadn't got it cheap/free.


  • #36
    DonQuay1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭DonQuay1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Do we really want our guards wasting time protecting some copyright holders in France or Italy?

    It's not an industry as severe as drugs.. Buying a fake bag doesn't have blood on it so if people want to buy it, let them at it. It's not like they'd ever be able to afford the real thing anyway.. Same as people with 60k songs on their computer.

    When an industry counts their losses for the media, they assume everybody would have bought the real thing if they hadn't got it cheap/free.


    I'd agree with you to a certain extent .....

    ..... but ....

    It's a law. It maybe only an itty bitty law - but if it's a law and that law is being broken - it should be enforced. Otherwise - why the hell are we ratifying foreign laws (or writing our own laws) and then not enforcing them?? To keep the pillocks in the Dail busy?

    If we don't want them enforced - repeal them.     Otherwise lazy Gardai (if that's what they are ..... lazy - not Gardai!) should enforce the law!!

    I mean - there's LOADS of laws out there that are not properly enforced by dolled up, 5 foot nothing, blonde, made up Gardai (and that's just the fellahs!) chatting to boyfriends on their mobile 'phones while Sh* te goes' on in front of them!

    On a different note - I don't particularly like LV crap or the knockoffs that it inspires ...


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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
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    You need these law to be in place for society to work.. But with limited resources, some are alot less important than others.


  • #38
    Copper_pipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    I bought a counterfeit jersey recently online, the Authentic was 60 euros in stores and in other online stores, Got the fake for 20 and couldn't tell the difference between the two. If there is money to be saved then I'll take the fake route.


  • #39
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I remember when I was in Rome, you'd see a bunch of big guys running down the street with a loada handbags any time they saw the police. :)


  • #40
    girl in the striped socks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    I could be wrong here but do the guards not already have enough to do?
    Seriously if ye saw a guard arresting or fining someone over this then there would be another thread calling for heads to roll because of all the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, burglars left to roam the streets.


  • #41
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,334 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Production of these counterfeit goods provides jobs for thousands of children in third world countries.
    Without these 18 hour shifts, these kids would be out on the street playing and stuff.
    Buy a bag and keep the kids in jobs and off the streets.


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  • #42
    Pottler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Production of these counterfeit goods provides jobs for thousands of children in third world countries.
    Without these 18 hour shifts, these kids would be out on the street playing and stuff.
    Buy a bag and keep the kids in jobs and off the streets.
    Shh, FG will see this and try and offer this as an alternative to Jobsbridge. I can hear Enda now - "We will become a hub for the Schnide economy, this will create 450,000 quality jobs for our youths, feck that Smart Economy sh1te I was pushing last year"


  • #43
    DonQuay1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭DonQuay1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You need these law to be in place for society to work.. But with limited resources, some are alot less important than others.

    We don't need to enforce fake LV knock-off laws to anchor our society. Seriously. We don't. Repeal them if we can't enforce them - save some money!!
    girl in the striped socks wrote: »
    I could be wrong here but do the guards not already have enough to do?
    Seriously if ye saw a guard arresting or fining someone over this then there would be another thread calling for heads to roll because of all the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, burglars left to roam the streets.

    " ... do the guards not already have enough to do?".

    No.

    That was the point of my pretty pointed argument. Every day the Gardai are swanning around doing nowt. What - they're IGNORING ILLEGAL itty bitty crimess .... so they can hold themselves in readiness for a significant crime to solve? Most crime is mundane and NOT significant. That's why there are small specialist units to handle un-mundane and significant crimes.
    The average Garda in the street is SUPPOSED to enforce the itty bitty laws. Why else are they out wandering the streets and hanging around street corners for hours on end!!??


  • #44
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    little swift wrote: »
    real leather -1
    fake leather + 1

    fake leather saves the anamils from been slaughtered and been used as handbags.

    Very hard to eat burgers with the hide still on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W2IVzRYMgs


  • #45
    DoneDL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭DoneDL


    Wel,l we have got fake Bankers and fake politicians so a few fake handbags probably doesn`t raise any eyebrows with the Guards.


  • #46
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DonQuay1 wrote: »
    We don't need to enforce fake LV knock-off laws to anchor our society. Seriously. We don't. Repeal them if we can't enforce them - save some money!!

    I mean that companies would abandon Ireland as a legitimate place to do business and sell goods if we didn't have copyright laws in place. It costs nothing to have them there and it stops opportunists like me who could ship home a container next week if it were legal.


  • #47
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Canonfan wrote: »
    How do the sellers get away with it? Even in China nowadays, LV is taking legal actions.

    You'd be suprised with whats going on in full-view, op. Alot of nixers going on out there.

    But it absolutely annoys me when a person says they didnt know something was a nixer. Theres no magical veil covering things.


  • #48
    Pottler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I mean that companies would abandon Ireland as a legitimate place to do business and sell goods if we didn't have copyright laws in place. It costs nothing to have them there and it stops opportunists like me who could ship home a container next week if it were legal.
    Ahem, may I refer you to the OP?:D


  • #49
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Heres a good question ...

    Is there really anything wrong with selling fake fashion goods?
    Dog eat dog, every man for themselves, world aint fair etc etc.


  • #50
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Bought an NFL football jersey
    The full deal, straight from the offical website

    Cost me $130, straight from the sweatshops of Honduras according to the label


    If the official sellers are going to use third world countries and then charge me lots I may as well go the fake route

    Probably the same factory making both the fake and the officals

    Deleted User wrote: »
    Met a few Western guys in the business of exporting this stuff out of Vietnam and China and they were sayin that alot of the gear is either made in a sister factory next door or made in the same factory as the real stuff at night.


  • #51
    AngryHippie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    Its one of those situations where the people who know don't care and the people who care don't know.
    What are the chances of anyone from BT or BT2 hanging around the Ilac centre:rolleyes:
    I agree with both sides of the argument,
    It could result in job losses and a lack of quality goods coming into the country
    If the goods are being made in the same sweatshops anyway, is it morally wrong?

    The clincher for me is that I couldn't give a sh1te what it says on my shirt, shoes, glasses pants, jocks or socks as long as it lasts and looks okay then I'm happy as a consumer. Do I give a toss if it was made by LV or CK or any other particular designer....Nope. Do I care about how they feel if someone is making an equally good product and piggybacking their ridiculous advertising budget in order to flog it at knockdown prices....Nope
    Will I buy it if its cheap nasty and prone to falling apart or shrinking...Nope


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