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Women enjoying a drink in the pub alone.

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  • #242
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    I have previous threads in mind.

    So why would you bring it up now?? Kind of irrelevant....
    Not sure I understand your question. By attitude I meant bad attitude. But I am not saying women who drink alone do have bad attitudes. I think far more women should drink on their own if they want to. Bad attitude and poor confidence dictate otherwise which is a shame.

    OKay...I have to retype the question again...

    You said the woman is having a drink alone in the bar and doesn't have an attitude like a lot of other women....I'm asking you how can you judge that from someone just sitting there drinking?

    You argued that some women have an attitude when approached by men, yes? Not when she's sitting there minding her own business...

    The fact that no one has approached her yet would make it impossible to know how she'd react thus impossible to know if she has an attitude....

    It's a fairly simple question...just trying to understand what you meant when you said she didn't have an attitude like a lot of other women...

    Oh ok, maybe it is a body language or
    I'm assuming she isn't up her own hole by having drink and not assuming all guys are after her.

    My point is that she is not being harassed and women should not use that as an excuse if they want a quiet drink on their own.

    Stiigmas will disappear if people regularly contradict it.

    That make sense? :-)


  • #243
    Daveysil15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    Miss Lockhart wrote: »
    Could you point out the man-haters in the thread to us? I haven't noticed any - at least not in the last 8-10 pages or so - perhaps I missed a few earlier in the thread.

    I happily point out the very obvious misogynist as VEN. Bitter twisted view of women.



    Feminists are not the opposite of misogynists. Again, where are the man-haters on the thread with bitter views towards men like those posted by VEN towards women?

    Well it all depends on what comments you'd consider man-hating and what you'd consider woman-hating. Your view is slightly biased.


  • #244
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    py2006 wrote: »
    Oh ok, maybe it is a body language or
    I'm assuming she isn't up her own hole by having drink and not assuming all guys are after her.

    My point is that she is not being harassed and women should not use that as an excuse if they want a quiet drink on their own.

    Stiigmas will disappear if people regularly contradict it.

    That make sense? :-)

    No.


  • #245
    srm23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭srm23


    I'm going to go around dublin pubs looking for girls sitting on their own reading, as i now know they're looking to be chatted up. if i get turned down ill tell them all i was looking for a "friendly chat" & they're stuck up.


  • #246
    Madilynn Gentle Narcotic
    Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Madilynn Gentle Narcotic


    py2006 wrote: »
    Oh ok, maybe it is a body language or
    I'm assuming she isn't up her own hole by having drink and not assuming all guys are after her.

    My point is that she is not being harassed and women should not use that as an excuse if they want a quiet drink on their own.

    Stiigmas will disappear if people regularly contradict it.

    That make sense? :-)

    So this one woman isn't being harassed on this occasion and that means that other women aren't regularly harassed when they try to have a drink on their own.

    OK.

    So I take from your post that all men are incapable of basic logic. That's reasonable, isn't it?


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  • #247
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    Miss Lockhart wrote: »
    Could you point out the man-haters in the thread to us? I haven't noticed any - at least not in the last 8-10 pages or so - perhaps I missed a few earlier in the thread.

    I happily point out the very obvious misogynist as VEN. Bitter twisted view of women.



    Feminists are not the opposite of misogynists. Again, where are the man-haters on the thread with bitter views towards men like those posted by VEN towards women?

    course you would, cos i've eh a low post count. easy to pick on me, are you a bully?

    "bitter" "twisted" quite strong words to use towards someone who likes to hold their own and not give attention to women? oh should i crawl over them? or would i be a 'tosser' then?

    men don't want manipulating, mentally hurtful type women in their lives. is that a bitter view???

    i think 'twisted' applies to you misandrist, twisting my opinion to claim i think all women are money grabbers, manipulators etc etc.


  • #248
    Madilynn Gentle Narcotic
    Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Madilynn Gentle Narcotic


    VEN wrote: »
    course you would, cos i've eh a low post count. easy to pick on me, are you a bully?

    "bitter" "twisted" quite strong words to use towards someone who likes to hold their own and not give attention to women? oh should i crawl over them? or would i be a 'tosser' then?

    men don't want manipulating, mentally hurtful type women in their lives. is that a bitter view???

    i think 'twisted' applies to you misandrist, twisting my opinion to claim i think all women are money grabbers, manipulators etc etc.

    Nobody needs to twist anything. It's as clear as day from your own posts what you think of women.


  • #249
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Madilynn Gentle Narcotic wrote: »
    Nobody needs to twist anything. It's as clear as day from your own posts what you think of women.

    I wouldn't entertain him. Pointless...


  • #250
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    Madilynn Gentle Narcotic wrote: »
    py2006 wrote: »
    Oh ok, maybe it is a body language or
    I'm assuming she isn't up her own hole by having drink and not assuming all guys are after her.

    My point is that she is not being harassed and women should not use that as an excuse if they want a quiet drink on their own.

    Stiigmas will disappear if people regularly contradict it.

    That make sense? :-)

    So this one woman isn't being harassed on this occasion and that means that other women aren't regularly harassed when they try to have a drink on their own.

    OK.

    So I take from your post that all men are incapable of basic logic. That's reasonable, isn't it?

    Wow, not sure what to make of that. Women are harassed.....by drunken men in pick up joints.

    Women are not harassed by respectful men in respectful bars.

    Let's not confuse men approaching women with harassment aswell.


  • #251
    Madilynn Gentle Narcotic
    Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Madilynn Gentle Narcotic


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    I wouldn't entertain him. Pointless...

    Off to bed now to snuggle up with the boyfriend. :D


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  • #252
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    Well it all depends on what comments you'd consider man-hating and what you'd consider woman-hating. Your view is slightly biased.

    Well, I pointed out what I considered misogynistic. Could you point out what you consider man-hating? That was what I asked.


  • #253
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    py2006 wrote: »
    Wow, not sure what to make of that. Women are harassed.....by drunken men in pick up joints.

    Women are not harassed by respectful men in respectful bars.

    How do you know that?


  • #254
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Madilynn Gentle Narcotic wrote: »
    Off to bed now to snuggle up with the boyfriend. :D

    But you hate men :confused: How could that be???


  • #255
    Daveysil15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    To be fair they're as bad as each other. I do remember words like 'bitter' and 'twisted been thrown at VEN. So she gives as good as she gets, although I'm not sure who started it. Eve also said something to me about the 'price of milk' which was just stupid and condescending and had nothing to do with the post, but there you go.


  • #256
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    To be fair they're as bad as each other. I do remember words like 'bitter' and 'twisted been thrown at VEN. So she gives as good as she gets, although I'm not sure who started it. Eve also said something to me about the 'price of milk' which was just stupid and condescending and had nothing to do with the post, but there you go.

    Maybe you should have a read back to see who started it. Firstly, it was implied that I'm "easy" and it continued from there...read first to get your facts straight.

    And my comment was a joke and not an example of man hating ffs :rolleyes:


  • #257
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    Madilynn Gentle Narcotic wrote: »
    Nobody needs to twist anything. It's as clear as day from your own posts what you think of women.

    hey hey now what i think of some women which is true. they love attention, they love to reject, they love to have the power. you can think all you like. i don't lack the type of low self esteem and fear of how i look to the outside world when i walk out the door. so the women who tell us, we need confidence for them to like us, can't really talk, can they?

    we just don't do fake.

    2-3 feminists on here tonight, not bad.


  • #258
    PC CDROM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 408 ✭✭PC CDROM


    Its pretty much the whole mating ritual.

    Fat= no
    Ugly= no

    I am ugly buggly so I come under no.


  • #259
    Daveysil15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Maybe you should have a read back to see who started it. Firstly, it was implied that I'm "easy" and it continued from there...read first to get your facts straight.

    And my comment was a joke and not an example of man hating ffs :rolleyes:

    Well why bother replying to him then? And I never said your comment was man hating.


  • #260
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    And my comment was a joke and not an example of man hating ffs :rolleyes:

    no, you do have something against irish men, obviously. bad experience was it?

    don't worry, your feminists buddies here with the 10 millions posts will help you.


  • #261
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    But you hate men :confused: How could that be???

    its a mind game thing, didn't work with me. she's snuggling up to her cat.


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  • #262
    py2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭py2006


    People, don't derail the thread. Women drinking alone, yea.....


  • #263
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    VEN wrote: »
    no, you do have something against irish men, obviously. bad experience was it? .

    Forever alone, eh? Oh well...


  • #264
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    py2006 wrote: »
    People, don't derail the thread. Women drinking alone, yea.....

    I think everything worthwhile that's going to be said has been said.

    /thread


  • #265
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Forever alone, eh? Oh well...

    scraping the bone? ouch


  • #266
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    VEN wrote: »
    course you would, cos i've eh a low post count. easy to pick on me, are you a bully?

    I never look at anyone's post count. My own is hardly that high at less than one post per day!
    VEN wrote: »
    "bitter" "twisted" quite strong words to use towards someone who likes to hold their own and not give attention to women? oh should i crawl over them? or would i be a 'tosser' then?

    men don't want manipulating, mentally hurtful type women in their lives. is that a bitter view???

    Bitter and twisted has nothing to do with holding your own. You can do what you like with your attention. Nothing bitter with not wanting a maniplative woman.

    What is bitter and twisted is your view that women are only interested in men for their bank balance, that all women love attention, that a foreign man is only with an Irish woman for a Visa, that all women love mind games.
    VEN wrote: »
    i think 'twisted' applies to you misandrist

    Can you show where I've displayed my misandry?


  • #267
    Fizzlesque
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Fizzlesque


    py2006 wrote: »
    People, don't derail the thread. Women drinking alone, yea.....

    I think it's well and truly derailed at this stage :(


  • #268
    VEN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭VEN


    Miss Lockhart wrote: »

    Bitter and twisted has nothing to do with holding your own. You can do what you like with your attention. Nothing bitter with not wanting a maniplative woman.

    What is bitter and twisted is your view that women are only interested in men for their bank balance, that all women love attention, that a foreign man is only with an Irish woman for a Visa, that all women love mind games.



    Can you show where I've displayed my misandry?

    remove the 'all' there please, trying to manipulate my words are we? point proven


  • #269
    Varied
    Closed Accounts Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Varied


    Miss Lockhart wrote: »
    Can you show where I've displayed my misandry?

    Earlier in the thread...
    Miss Lockhart wrote: »
    Then there are plenty of pathetic men around!


  • #270
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    VEN wrote: »
    remove the 'all' there please, trying to manipulate my words are we? point proven

    Well, I don't see you differentiating in the examples below.

    Women love attention.

    "Mind games, it thought that was how ye worked it"
    VEN wrote: »
    you're a dublin gal alright, "some fooked up thinking there pal..."

    women love attention - fact    . i choose not to give it, they can chase me, they can look at me, time to change my dear, equal opportunities and all that. nothing 'foooked up' about that, its called self control and loving it!

    oh i thought he was argentinian, i bet you walk all over him, mentally too mind.
    VEN wrote: »
    oh you don't do mind games, it thought that was how ye worked it?


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  • #271
    Miss Lockhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    Varied wrote: »
    Earlier in the thread...

    That was in response to somebody saying that a man would want to be pathetic to respond badly to a friendly rejection. As I had said, I have had that experience many times - so obviously there are men who fit that poster's description of "pathetic".

    Nowhere did I suggest most or all men are pathetic. Just those who act as described.


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