PiP Implants support thread - Irish petition in post #1

Pixiejane · 09-05-2012 10:24am

Belle2012 wrote: »

Well done everyone for all your hard work. Thank you for all the time and effort you have been putting into this. It's all paying off xxx
I wanted to ask if ye knew about the hospital group patients as they don't operate in cork any more and have offered for me to travel to the uk. I don't want to travel and i feel I could not leave them carry out the operation again. Does the free removal only apply if I go back to the hospital group or can it be done by a doctor here based in cork that my GP would refer me? Thanks

Hi Belle,

Personally I would be reluctant to travel anywhere except Ireland for further surgery. My advice to you is to ring or write to The Department of Health in Dublin, and ask to speak with the Chief Medical Officer (or his secretary) about it. These are just some of the issues we will be bringing up with him at our next meeting at the end of June on behalf of Hospital Group and Advanced Cosmetic Surgery patients. So please ladies out there, write to the Chief Medical Officer and ask what your next step is.

Pixiejane · 09-05-2012 10:36am

misspipreplace wrote: »

I got quoted 4,500 euro last week from HMC to have my implants removed.... couldn't believe them on the phone they said they weren't interested in patients unless they had a scan firstly and had to have a rupture as they were far too busy to book me in for a consultant. I felt like crying my eyes. I couldn't have had a luxury holiday down in Thailand when getting these and looks like I would have had a far better treatment. Does anyone know anything about just removal? I'm talking about the out come of how they would look after

They'll be changing their tune then this week. HMG wrote to the Chief Medical Officer recently advising him of the following.

HMG will be writing to all their patients by the end of May 2012 to advise on a new care package plan for all their patients.
Removal will be free of charge to patients, and replacement is requested will be at a reduced cost to the patient.
The removal option only would be discussed by the surgeon with the patient at consultation.
Pricing details on replacement have yet to be confirmed to the Chief Medical Officer.
Consultations will be taking place from June onwards and it is hoped that all surgeries will be completed by the end of this year.
The Department will be in touch with HMG to discuss this matter further, and will monitoring all the clinics in question.

Hope this information helps you.

evergreen girl · 09-05-2012 2:35pm

Pixiejane wrote: »

Thanks for saying that Evergreen. Yes we've achieved a lot in a short space of time, and have worked very hard and sacrificed time with our families over the last few months, but it's been worth it all. Best of luck with your surgery next week, it'll be a big weight lifted off your shoulders I'm sure. What are they replacing them with can I ask, thanks? I'm sure all other HMG patients will be interested to know going forward. Cheers.

Hi Pixiejane,
they offered to replace them with Allergan CUI's free of charge which I'm sure are absolutely fine and guaranteed for 10 years but I said I would prefer to have implants with a lifetime replacement warranty so I paid the difference to have Allergan Natrelle Inspira implants.

Both types of implants have the exact same type of protective barrier and I might still have to replace the Inspira's in 10 years anyway but I just felt better about getting a premium implant rather than a standard one.

Pixiejane · 09-05-2012 7:33pm

evergreen girl wrote: »

Hi Pixiejane,
they offered to replace them with Allergan CUI's free of charge which I'm sure are absolutely fine and guaranteed for 10 years but I said I would prefer to have implants with a lifetime replacement warranty so I paid the difference to have Allergan Natrelle Inspira implants.

Both types of implants have the exact same type of protective barrier and I might still have to replace the Inspira's in 10 years anyway but I just felt better about getting a premium implant rather than a standard one.

Great choice Evergreen, you're dead right. Hope your surgery goes well for you. Please keep us updated as to how it all goes for you, thanks.:)

Pixiejane · 09-05-2012 8:12pm

Dear Ladies,

For those of you who made it to our PIP Information last Saturday May 5th in the Red Cow Inn, a big thank you from us all in PIP Acton Group for coming. For some of you I met, that was your first big step forward in dealing with the PIP situation, so well done. Please contact us through this forum, or through our website and as always, we'll do our best to help and support you. We hope you found the meeting helpful and supportive, and made use of the guest speakers who spoke on the day.

For those of you who couldn't make it, I’ll outline below the outcome of our meeting with the Chief Medical Officer on Friday May 4th, and how our meeting went:

PIP Action Group met with the CMO last Friday 5th May. The outcome of the meeting was a positive one for all affected women and a step in the right direction. In an ideal world, removal and replacement should be free for all PIP ladies, and that's what we all would like for ourselves as we did pay out a lot of money originally. But for now we have all got to work with what we have. It's up to each woman out there to fight for herself, stand her ground and be firm.

Last Friday's meeting with the CMO proved to be a positive one. Dr. Holohan has received a written commitment from Harley Medical Group to provide a care package for their patients. They have recognised the shortfall in the service and care they have provided to date for their patients, and have now developed a new care plan. I must point out that significant detail remains to be clarified and that the Department is continuing to discuss the matter with the provider. PIP Action Group also have a follow up meeting with Dr. Holohan in June to see how things have been progressing with regard to this new care plan.

I would like to point out that the other clinics, namely Clane General Hopsital and Shandon Street Clinic have a care package in place already for their patients. They will also be meeting again with the CMO in the coming weeks to discuss further how to progress with their patients, as the "removal" option for patients is now free of charge. The response of these clinics account for about 400 women. For Hospital Group and Advanced Cosmetic Surgery patients, please write to the Chief Medical Officer in the Department of Health and ask what steps should you take or indeed please contact Patient Focus Group for advice.

· Harley will write to all their patients before the end of May.
· In June, they will commence their proposed care package.
· Removal of all PIP implants will be at no cost to the patient (this applies to all PIP affected ladies)
· Priority list for removal will be those with ruptures.
· Replacement of PIP implants will be at a reduced cost to the patient, those prices have yet to be confirmed by HMG. Clane patients should already know their prices. €2000 was the removal and replacement price (with Allergan Natrelle implants) for Clane patients only, so that should give other patients from other clinics an idea of what price may come down the line. Remember now ladies, that "removal" is now free of charge, so I would hope that this price would be decreased somewhat.
· All patients should have an agreed care plan and it is hoped that all surgeries will be completed by the end of 2012.
· To achieve this the Department will liaise with HMG on recruiting extra surgeons and the facilities required to do so. Procedures will take place here in Ireland.
· Waivers are not an acceptable form of practice. We’ve all heard about waivers over the last few months, and patients being asked to sign such forms. We are trying to collate such documents as requested by the Department of Health, so for those of you who may have such documents, please get in touch with us via our website or by private message on boards.
· It is also unacceptable for any staff member of clinics/hospitals to behave in an unprofessional manner towards their patients. If anybody has had any negative encounters, please contact the regulatory bodies and make a formal complaint.

Dr. Holohan has an expectation that if someone puts it in writing to him, that they will deliver what they have promised. So far this man has been true to his word and very helpful and supportive to us as a group. His primary focus is on obtaining the best level of care for the women who have received PIP breast implants, and to ensure all the clinics act accordingly.

The current lack of regulation is being worked on by officials of the Dept. of Health by way of the Licensing of Health Facilities Bill which wil provide for a mandatory system of licensing for public and private health service providers.

A great tip from Brigid in Patient Focus by the way, as follows. HMG patients should write to HMG themselves and script it somewhat like this:

It is my understanding that you have given a written committment to Dr. Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer, that you will be providing a new care package for your patients with PIP breast implants.
My name is...........................and my current address is..........................
You might mention here if you are a priority patient, as in, if you have a rupture or gel bleed, you are considered a priority patient.
I would be grateful if you could provide me with details of this new care package plan at your earliest convenience.

Ok so that's how our meeting with Dr. Holohan went. PIP Information Day in the Red Cow Inn was also a positive one for women. There were solicitors, surgeons, a clinical psychologist, and Patient Focus Group in attendance, and many women had the opportunity to speak to these people as individuals and obtain useful information from them.

Apologies for the lengthy thread, but I don't want to leave anything out and hope I haven't! It was lovely to meet with the ladies I spoke with on Saturday, and indeed the other girls of PIP Action Group who met with you ladies. Again should you wish you contact us, you know all the social media sites. Thanks for the positive feedback and continued support.

kyra123, Pixiejane, jean08, ilmm2012, sue103

aycee2000 · 09-05-2012 8:27pm

Hi Pixiejane,
Thanks for all that information- I just found out today that I have pip implants, they were put in in 2000 in Clane but I went through hmg. I only found out because i finally decided to face the issue, i think i had been in denial since jan as i heard they were only used since 2002. When i phoned hmg today they had no records at all of my operation and advised me to ph clane which i did. They were so helpful and i was told that hmg had received my file a month ago, stating that i had pip implants. The nurse told me they will remove and replace for 3500. She advised me to ph hmg so i did and was told that they changed their computer system and that was why they had no records. The lady told me that i could have a consultation, a scan for 220 and it would cost 5200 to remove and replace. She said that i am not covered by warranty and that my records may be in the UK. 20 mins later a lady from the UK phoned (blocked number) and said that they had probably destroyed my records as it is so long ago. She asked me to email a letter confirming pip implants to her and that removal and replacement would cost £5800 (cant remember exact figures as was and still am a bit shocked). She told me i am no danger etc but that's not how i feel. I didn't get the impression that Harley are going to do anything free of charge and i will definitely have to borrow to fix this mess.
Well done pip action group for publicising this- i really felt hmg were not to be trusted today- the 1st girl even asked if i was sure i had gone there for the implants!
Really worried now, sleepless night ahead, trying not to panic but this has come as such a shock

Hope1 · 09-05-2012 8:28pm

Hi ladies have any of u delt with Auralia had a consult with dr ? and was very impressed. He advises pure(polyuterine) implants , the manufactur is silimed based in brazil for over 30 years.They are FDA approved and used in over 70 countries , Lifetime guarantee,anyone any info?? So nervous and hope whatever I decide it's the right decision. So confussed!!Trying to do as much homework as possible.

Pixiejane · 10-05-2012 4:45pm

aycee2000 wrote: »

Hi Pixiejane,
Thanks for all that information- I just found out today that I have pip implants, they were put in in 2000 in Clane but I went through hmg. I only found out because i finally decided to face the issue, i think i had been in denial since jan as i heard they were only used since 2002. When i phoned hmg today they had no records at all of my operation and advised me to ph clane which i did. They were so helpful and i was told that hmg had received my file a month ago, stating that i had pip implants. The nurse told me they will remove and replace for 3500. She advised me to ph hmg so i did and was told that they changed their computer system and that was why they had no records. The lady told me that i could have a consultation, a scan for 220 and it would cost 5200 to remove and replace. She said that i am not covered by warranty and that my records may be in the UK. 20 mins later a lady from the UK phoned (blocked number) and said that they had probably destroyed my records as it is so long ago. She asked me to email a letter confirming pip implants to her and that removal and replacement would cost £5800 (cant remember exact figures as was and still am a bit shocked). She told me i am no danger etc but that's not how i feel. I didn't get the impression that Harley are going to do anything free of charge and i will definitely have to borrow to fix this mess.
Well done pip action group for publicising this- i really felt hmg were not to be trusted today- the 1st girl even asked if i was sure i had gone there for the implants!
Really worried now, sleepless night ahead, trying not to panic but this has come as such a shock

Hi there,

So today was a strange day for you, but at least now you know you have PIPs. That's the first step in finding out, so now you have options. Back in December when most of us found out, we had no options. Thankfully we're all in a much better place now. Don't be panicked by anyone. You need to sit down and weigh up all your options first. HMG will be writing to all their patients before the end of this month. Wait until you receive your letter first, or in my last post why not be a step ahead and write to them yourself. You'll feel better about it and will have done something else very positive for yourself.

Clane are quoting €3500 for removal and replacements (with Allergan Natrelle) for non Clane patients.

Hope this helps

LegacyUser · 14-05-2012 6:43pm

Hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone has had their PIp's replaced by <snip> in HMG, he seems very nice but just wondering if people are pleased with his work? I'm booked in with him next week for replacement, am a bit nervous about letting HMG do it, but don't have the financial choice to go somewhere else.

saprano78 · 15-05-2012 10:57am

Hi Girls
This is my first time posting because I have just tryed to bury my head in the sand about all this.
Thank you so much kyra123, Pixiejane, jean08, ilmm2012, sue103 for all the really hard work you guys have done. You are brilliant and have really done a great job.
Unfortuanely when I called <snip> today they explained that nothing had changed and they were still sticking to the same terms and conditions as before
ie. Need to have a scan and only then if they are ruptured will they take out for free. Its a joke
Anyone else have the same problem when they called <snip>?

Hylochick · 15-05-2012 10:10pm

Pixiejane wrote: »

http://www.rivermedical.ie/assets/files/White%20paper.pdf

Hello Ladies,

Hope you're all doing ok, it's been quiet again on boards, but that doesn't mean we haven't been busy. It would be nice to hear from you all and how you're all getting on, and if there's been any new developments with your own situations regarding PIPs.

We've been meeting up on a regular basis as usual, and lots of hard work going on in the background as usual by us while we continue to go to work and get on with our own daily lives as best we can. Tomorrow PIP Action Group is meeting with all TD's and Senators in Leinster House to do a presentation on the PIP issue affecting women, and to move forward with the Cross Party Committee people. We will update you as to how that goes. Next week then we have a follow up meeting with the Chief Medical Officer and the Irish Medicines Board, and not forgetting our PIP Information Day on Sat 5th May in the Red Cow Inn, Dublin 22. We have been quite busy preparing for all of these meetings and events.

I came across this article (link above) on the internet, and found it to be very informative for anyone considering cosmetic surgery in general. It also touches on regulation of the industry also. So please have a read of it, and as we always say, it's your decision at the end of the day who you choose, but please always do your own research. Hope it helps.

Hi I'm new on the board and a just got news of rupturing in one of my implants. My hospital have said they will remove and replace but only if I pay my own travel and go to Birmingham. I'm devastated. They have a Dublin clinic and said if I choose to have it done here I will pay in full ..... The surgeons PA treated me like a dog on the phone and I've had to visit my gp for a supply of mild sedatives to help with my anxiety since... I'm confused and I plan to go privately for a second opinion and to get a medical opinion on the extent of my rupture and the consequences as I have had no reassurance of information from my hospital. Any one else in my position ......, and thank you to all involved in the group.

DD14 · 15-05-2012 10:23pm

l0lly30 wrote: »

Hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone has had their PIp's replaced by Dr D in HMG, he seems very nice but just wondering if people are pleased with his work? I'm booked in with him next week for replacement, am a bit nervous about letting HMG do it, but don't have the financial choice to go somewhere else.

Hi l0lly30, I am having r&r with Dr D on Thursday in St Francis hospital, cant wait to put this all behind me. its been a long 5 months.. I know there are a few other ladies on here who have had Dr D do the surgery and so far it is all postive reports about him. All we can do is put our trust in him to remove these pips. I suppose we thought we could trust the original surgeon but financially we dont have an option of choosing to go with another clinic. I will let you know how i get on in a few days.

Pixiejane · 16-05-2012 7:24pm

l0lly30 wrote: »

Hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone has had their PIp's replaced by Dr D in HMG, he seems very nice but just wondering if people are pleased with his work? I'm booked in with him next week for replacement, am a bit nervous about letting HMG do it, but don't have the financial choice to go somewhere else.

Hi Lolly,

Sorry I can't help you with that one, I'm a Clane patient. Haven't heard anything back, but I see now that DD14 has replied to your post. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

Pixiejane · 16-05-2012 7:28pm

saprano78 wrote: »

Hi Girls
This is my first time posting because I have just tryed to bury my head in the sand about all this.
Thank you so much kyra123, Pixiejane, jean08, ilmm2012, sue103 for all the really hard work you guys have done. You are brilliant and have really done a great job.
Unfortuanely when I called Harley today they explained that nothing had changed and they were still sticking to the same terms and conditions as before
ie. Need to have a scan and only then if they are ruptured will they take out for free. Its a joke
Anyone else have the same problem when they called harley?

Hi Saprano,

Listen you're not the first in burying your head so to speak, we've all done it at one stage or another. Thanks for your supportive words, they really help. Pay no attention to what they're saying, help is on the way:) PIP Action Group have written to the Chief Medical Officer again. Should anyone experience any negative feedback or experiences, it is very important you report this to the regulatory bodies. Have a look at our website for more information. Also remember to contact Patient Focus, www.patientfocus.ie they will also help and support you in the next steps to take.

Pixiejane · 16-05-2012 7:30pm

DD14 wrote: »

Hi l0lly30, I am having r&r with Dr D on Thursday in St Francis hospital, cant wait to put this all behind me. its been a long 5 months.. I know there are a few other ladies on here who have had Dr D do the surgery and so far it is all postive reports about him. All we can do is put our trust in him to remove these pips. I suppose we thought we could trust the original surgeon but financially we dont have an option of choosing to go with another clinic. I will let you know how i get on in a few days.

Good luck with your upcoming surgery, please keep the board posted as to how you get on thanks. You're on the home stretch now so hopefully it'll all be behind you very soon.

Hylochick · 16-05-2012 7:51pm

saprano78 wrote: »

Hi Girls
This is my first time posting because I have just tryed to bury my head in the sand about all this.
Thank you so much kyra123, Pixiejane, jean08, ilmm2012, sue103 for all the really hard work you guys have done. You are brilliant and have really done a great job.
Unfortuanely when I called Harley today they explained that nothing had changed and they were still sticking to the same terms and conditions as before
ie. Need to have a scan and only then if they are ruptured will they take out for free. Its a joke
Anyone else have the same problem when they called harley?

Hi saprano I would advise you to have the MRI as soon as possible therefore you will know if you are ruptured and can act on it. I wasnt at all worried and was shattered when results showed rupture last week. At least now I will get priority removal and replacement but the decision now will be do I trust them .... Good luck and put your own Health first.

Belle2012 · 16-05-2012 8:03pm

Hi hylochick, I'm in the same situation but I don't have a rupture. Im so sorry to hear you do. Was told I'd have to go to birmingham I wouldn't travel for the operation so I got my GP to refer me to a surgeon in cork. I'm happy with this decision and have my operation scheduled for the 12june. It's going to cost about 4500. Hope this helps you out.

gabby1205 · 16-05-2012 9:22pm

Hi girls, I've had removal and replacement from a doctor who works both from <snip>. He specialises in cosmetic surgery for cancer patients and breast implant revisions normally when something has gone wrong. I highly recommend him. He's very straight and will cover all angles very thorough indeed. I had lateral displacement and an oversized pocket. My op took 2.5 hours because he is such a perfectionist he doesn't cut corners. I must mention I'm a pip patient from <snip>. I was fortunate to get a loan from the bank. I'll be paying it back for 5 years things will be v. tight but all worthed. I'm happier now with implants than original operation. I got FDA mentor implants this time round.I'm 6 weeks over operation and all is going well. I have great faith in this doc and as quoted by another highly qualified doc in <snip> he'd trust him with his life

I'm writing a thankyou card to him now;)

hedkandigirl · 17-05-2012 5:31pm

Hi Guys

I'm in a position where I can't afford a scan I'm finanically destroyed. I totally regret getting my implants and of course they were a bad luxury buy in high times. My worry now going back to HMG is that they might not give the right advice on my options about removal, replacement etc and also the fact their taking on part timers to cover all of this extra work will it actually be a correct and good costemic job.... or rushed and botched? I'd really like to hear from anyone going for the op's in the next few weeks and on. What they've been advised and what they think after I'll defo put up my information if its a help to someone else

evergreen girl · 17-05-2012 5:46pm

l0lly30 wrote: »

Hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone has had their PIp's replaced by <snip>, he seems very nice but just wondering if people are pleased with his work? I'm booked in with him next week for replacement, am a bit nervous about letting <snip> do it, but don't have the financial choice to go somewhere else.

Hi Lolly30,
had my pips replaced by <snip> yesterday afternoon. Very, very pleased with how everything went and would have no hesitation in recommending both him and <snip> hospital. Was absolutely crapping it going down to the operating room but all the staff including <snip> were so reassuring and it was all over an hour later. My incision sites are obviously a little bit tender but nothing major and my breasts themselves aren't painful at all.

The very best of luck next week - honestly you have nothing to be nervous about.

sheba12 · 19-05-2012 6:00pm

gabby1205 wrote: »

Hi girls, I've had removal and replacement from a doctor who works both from <snip>. He specialises in cosmetic surgery for cancer patients and breast implant revisions normally when something has gone wrong. I highly recommend him. He's very straight and will cover all angles very thorough indeed. I had lateral displacement and an oversized pocket. My op took 2.5 hours because he is such a perfectionist he doesn't cut corners. I must mention I'm a pip patient from <snip>. I was fortunate to get a loan from the bank. I'll be paying it back for 5 years things will be v. tight but all worthed. I'm happier now with implants than original operation. I got FDA mentor implants this time round.I'm 6 weeks over operation and all is going well. I have great faith in this doc and as quoted by another highly qualified doc in <snip> he'd trust him with his life I'm writing a thankyou card to him now;)

:)hi gabby glad u got sorted he seems like a diamond:):)has any one received any care package yet from <snip>

saulite · 21-05-2012 8:40pm

BBC Three - Are My Fake Breasts Safe?
www.bbc.co.uk

Pixiejane · 25-05-2012 10:02am

Hylochick wrote: »

Hi I'm new on the board and a just got news of rupturing in one of my implants. My hospital have said they will remove and replace but only if I pay my own travel and go to Birmingham. I'm devastated. They have a <snip> and said if I choose to have it done here I will pay in full ..... The surgeons PA treated me like a dog on the phone and I've had to visit my gp for a supply of mild sedatives to help with my anxiety since... I'm confused and I plan to go privately for a second opinion and to get a medical opinion on the extent of my rupture and the consequences as I have had no reassurance of information from my hospital. Any one else in my position ......, and thank you to all involved in the group.

Sorry to hear that Hylochick. That is disgraceful the way you're being treated, I'm so sorry to hear that. Did you go for a second opinion yet?

Pixiejane · 25-05-2012 10:04am

evergreen girl wrote: »

Hi Lolly30,
had my pips replaced by <snip> yesterday afternoon. Very, very pleased with how everything went and would have no hesitation in recommending both him and <snip> hospital. Was absolutely crapping it going down to the operating room but all the staff including <snip> were so reassuring and it was all over an hour later. My incision sites are obviously a little bit tender but nothing major and my breasts themselves aren't painful at all.

The very best of luck next week - honestly you have nothing to be nervous about.

Glad it all went well for you.

Back to normal for you now hopefully.

saulite · 25-05-2012 9:40pm

Pixiejane wrote: »

Sorry to hear that Hylochick. That is disgraceful the way you're being treated, I'm so sorry to hear that. Did you go for a second opinion yet?

I am so sorry to hear that , seems like nothing has changed they still treat you like they treated me horrible and other girls back in december since the news came out .. I thought they wud learn the lesson by now and at least treat us with respect ,at least !!!! I also can't believe they are sending you to different country and not taking responsibility here ,like you actually having a rupture ,do they not gettin it...B***ards !! I really think you should go for second opinion.. and I can't wait for that day when they all get back what they deserve ..Stay strong girl ,you need your energy and my advice don't waste your energy on somebody who doesn't want to help you ,save your time ..We all went through this and sure we all can give you some advice from our experience ..I wish you all the best and if thr is anth I can help with pls let me know ...

mayblue · 26-05-2012 6:20am

Hello ladies, after being in denial for so long I've decided to take the necessary steps to see what's been going on with my breast implant (only right breast).
I had my surgery in 2008 in <snip> and the surgeon was from <snip>....I underwent surgery to "fix" a big asymmetry between my breasts thinking it would help me feel more confident about myself but... it didn't work as I expected. I still have two different breasts because the job that was done on the right one wasn't to my satisfaction but I was too shocked to do say something and I trusted the doctor who told me there had been complications during surgery and he did his best to do what he could.
However now that this issue with the PIP implants I'm questioning the validity of that statement and I'm thinking he may have just done a crappy job but unfortunately it's too late to claim for negligence....
Anyway, after my mom insisted I go more information about my breast implant I finally got a letter from HM confirming that I have it (second shock of my life). After going for the MRI scan I discovered that my breast implant is ruptured (third shock). I felt like I got "screwed" overall between the first surgery and now this.....
I still haven't met anyone from HM to discuss my situation but I'm considering to go somewhere else to get this thing removed from my body.
I don't trust them and even if they'd offer me a free removal I wouldn't let any of them touch me again! I'm planning to go to my home-country to get surgery and yesterday I met with a lawyer about suing the company to get my money back for both surgeries....
Since the thread is very long here I'm wondering if any of you contacted a lawyer about this issue and what were you adviced to do.

Thanks,
May

mayblue · 26-05-2012 6:31am

gabby1205 wrote: »

Hi girls, I've had removal and replacement from a doctor who works both from Beaumont and hermitage. He specialises in cosmetic surgery for cancer patients and breast implant revisions normally when something has gone wrong. I highly recommend him. He's very straight and will cover all angles very thorough indeed. I had lateral displacement and an oversized pocket. My op took 2.5 hours because he is such a perfectionist he doesn't cut corners. I must mention I'm a pip patient from Harley medical. I was fortunate to get a loan from the bank. I'll be paying it back for 5 years things will be v. tight but all worthed. I'm happier now with implants than original operation. I got FDA mentor implants this time round.I'm 6 weeks over operation and all is going well. I have great faith in this doc and as quoted by another highly qualified doc in beumont he'd trust him with his life I'm writing a thankyou card to him now;)

Hi gabby, any chance you could give me more information about this doctor? thanks

gabby1205 · 26-05-2012 11:34pm

mayblue wrote: »

gabby1205 wrote: »

Hi girls, I've had removal and replacement from a doctor who works both from Beaumont and hermitage. He specialises in cosmetic surgery for cancer patients and breast implant revisions normally when something has gone wrong. I highly recommend him. He's very straight and will cover all angles very thorough indeed. I had lateral displacement and an oversized pocket. My op took 2.5 hours because he is such a perfectionist he doesn't cut corners. I must mention I'm a pip patient from Harley medical. I was fortunate to get a loan from the bank. I'll be paying it back for 5 years things will be v. tight but all worthed. I'm happier now with implants than original operation. I got FDA mentor implants this time round.I'm 6 weeks over operation and all is going well. I have great faith in this doc and as quoted by another highly qualified doc in beumont he'd trust him with his life I'm writing a thankyou card to him now;)

Hi gabby, any chance you could give me more information about this doctor? thanks

Yep no probs. His name is <snip>. He works from <snip> and the hermitage clinic. Excellent surgeon I just knew at my consultation he was the right doctor. V.honest and as I said explains everything. He told me he had removed and replaced implants with ruptures that were 25yrs old. A true gent v.humble man. I stayed in hosp. For 2 days the aftercare was excellent no shortcuts;) hope this helps and the v. Best of luck.

Fluorescence · 27-05-2012 7:29am

For legal reasons, we cannot name doctors or surgeries they work for. Cheers

evergreen girl · 27-05-2012 12:54pm

mayblue wrote: »

Hello ladies, after being in denial for so long I've decided to take the necessary steps to see what's been going on with my breast implant (only right breast).
I had my surgery in 2008 in St. Francis and the surgeon was from <SNIP>....I underwent surgery to "fix" a big asymmetry between my breasts thinking it would help me feel more confident about myself but... it didn't work as I expected. I still have two different breasts because the job that was done on the right one wasn't to my satisfaction but I was too shocked to do say something and I trusted the doctor who told me there had been complications during surgery and he did his best to do what he could.
However now that this issue with the PIP implants I'm questioning the validity of that statement and I'm thinking he may have just done a crappy job but unfortunately it's too late to claim for negligence....
Anyway, after my mom insisted I go more information about my breast implant I finally got a letter from HM confirming that I have it (second shock of my life). After going for the MRI scan I discovered that my breast implant is ruptured (third shock). I felt like I got "screwed" overall between the first surgery and now this.....
I still haven't met anyone from <SNIP> to discuss my situation but I'm considering to go somewhere else to get this thing removed from my body.
I don't trust them and even if they'd offer me a free removal I wouldn't let any of them touch me again! I'm planning to go to my home-country to get surgery and yesterday I met with a lawyer about suing the company to get my money back for both surgeries....
Since the thread is very long here I'm wondering if any of you contacted a lawyer about this issue and what were you adviced to do.

Thanks,
May

Sent you a pm - hope it helps.

evergreen girl · 27-05-2012 12:56pm

Pixiejane wrote: »

Glad it all went well for you. Back to normal for you now hopefully.

Thanks Pixiejane,
yeah the relief at finally having them replaced is just unreal. I'm like a different woman:). Can forget about them again for another 10 years!

Pixiejane · 28-05-2012 9:17am

evergreen girl wrote: »

Thanks Pixiejane,
yeah the relief at finally having them replaced is just unreal. I'm like a different woman:). Can forget about them again for another 10 years!

Like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders I bet, a great feeling I know. Well now you can enjoy the rest of your maternity leave with your little one.:)

evergreen girl · 29-05-2012 10:19am

Weary wrote: »

<snip>

Just to clear up any confusion on this forum regarding FDA approved silicone implants, below is an extract from the FDA document "Update on the Safety of Silicone Gel-Filled Breast Implants (2011) - Executive Summary"

"In November 2006, the FDA approved two silicone gel-filled breast implants: the Allergan Natrelle and the Mentor MemoryGel. As conditions of approval, the FDA required each manufacturer to conduct post-approval studies to characterize the long-term performance and safety of the devices."

Website link below for anyone who is interested in reading the full doc:
http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/ProductsandMedicalProcedures/ImplantsandProsthetics/BreastImplants/ucm259866.htm

Also as far as I am aware, the FDA recently approved other types/brands of silicone implants and that info can also be found on the FDA website.

DD14 · 02-06-2012 9:47am

Hi ladies It's 16 days since r&r and must say recovery is so much quicker 2nd time round. I was back in work and driving after 4 days. Have the pip implants in a sealed bag from the hospital they were both intact even thou I have silicon in my lymph nodes??? The right one was slightly discoloured which I believ is a sign it was about to rupture. So glad they are out and I feel lucky to be able to move on now and put this all behind me. Its been an awful 6 months. It's disappointing to hear <SNIP> don't seem to be acting on the promise to CMO to remove all pips for free and havent wrote to all concerned This will just add more stress to the already stressed out ladies who are waiting to remove.

hedkandigirl · 03-06-2012 5:10pm

Girls
<SNIP> patients should have all gotten a letter by now to arrange there appointment for a consultation by now. Did anyone get their letter's yet? Have they gotten through all the ruptured people yet? I'm worried and not many girls seem to be using this website to talk to one another but its the only way I can contact people to find out anything....... Please <SNIP> girls are you there can you answer, did you get a letter yet, did you have a rupture?

Plunto · 04-06-2012 2:11pm

hi - i am still waiting on my confirmation letter from <SNIP> - was onto them again to day and I am just getting the run around!!! In one of my calls to them they did say they used other implants so I want to get the confirmation letter as I dont want arranging a mri if there is no need.

Plunto · 04-06-2012 2:37pm

Ladies - I am still waiting on a confirmation letter from <SNIP> that I have a PIP!!! Yet alone get a letter re a care plan etc. I dont think they are hourning the committments given at recent meetings. I am at a loss dont know what to do. Any more word on what replacements would cost?

Wibbs · 04-06-2012 6:14pm

Just to remind ye all, please no mention of specific clinics or doctors. Any examples we'll have to remove. We've been advised that this could cause legal trouble for the site. Pain though it is.

hedkandigirl · 05-06-2012 7:35pm

thanks for letting me know.......

sammydempsey · 07-06-2012 3:11pm

<snip> have been lying to us again !! FIRST WITH THE LETTER THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO HAVE SENT US IN 2010 AND NOW ABOUT THE CARE PLAN ;( DISGRACEFUL

LegacyUser · 10-06-2012 4:59pm

Hey girls,
It's nearly 2.5 weeks now since my R&R with Dr X very pleased with him, he was really nice and everything went really well, so glad there out, I got the old impants after, one was completley burst the other was fine, so mad that I had no symptoms and would never of known if I didnt have an MRI, anyway it's all over and done with now thank god. Really hope the rest of ye get sorted out.
Lolly

pudsy25 · 11-06-2012 8:22pm

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum. Had my PIP implants in Dec 2007. It was a very personnal and private matter for me. I always felt that I was unfeminine and couldn't fillan AA starter bra so I had the implants and felt a lot better about myself. What a shock to discover that they put mattress stuffing in me!!

Had my MRI two weeks ago and waiting on results. I really really want the impants out regardless of whether or not they are ruptured. However, I cannot have them removed wthout having them replaced as I will be left disfigured. Big problem is that things have changed finacially for me like so many of you since I was implanted. It took me six weeks scrimping and scrapping to get the MRI money together and I have absolutely no hope of saving for replacement implants.

Does anyone have any idea how much it costs to replace the implants? Is there any clinic offering a payment plan? Any information at all would be much appreciated. I have been fighting depression for the past few years now but this issue is sending me to the brink of my insanity.

mayblue · 12-06-2012 3:34pm

Hello ladies,
after having the MRI and confirming (in May) that mine is raptured I still haven't got an appointment to see anyone from the clinic even though they called me to say that they got the scan results.
I'm going to my home country to have surgery next week even though I have to pay for it (using my honeymoon funds

) because I don't trust the clinic anymore.
I've already contacted a lawyer who said we have a good case but after seeing the cost of such legal action, I'm concerned. I'm wondering if any of you ladies has decided to proceed with sueing your clinic. PM please because I don't know what to do.
I'm not interested in becoming rich I only want my money back for my first surgery as I think they did a crappy job in the first place and they used a very low quality product (whether on purpose or they closed an eye on it).

Very confused and nervous right now!

hedkandigirl · 13-06-2012 4:09pm

Hi Mayblue, totally agree clinic's here can't be trusted and if I was able to afford them with another clinic I'd be gone... Has everyone had a rupture? seem's like everyone says they had a rupture on their scan or when they were removed. Are they lying to use about the real figures of ruptures. Has anyone gotten legal advise and how much should it cost and what were you told? Please everyone reply and keep some sort of information going on this

saulite · 13-06-2012 8:45pm

saulite wrote: »

saulite wrote: »

Hi , I am sorry girls you have to go through this ... I am one of you who is going thru this nightmare... the worst is over for me I had them removed few month ago as my scan was bad I was too stressed and could not handle the stress need to get rid of them ..I am not from IRL and also trusted to do my surgery here and they were ensuring me that I am in the best hands and will get life product will never have to go thr again ,wasn't an easy decision to do them at the first place ,but I had no confidence and I knew it would change the way I feel about myself was terrified going under knife and this time was even worst , i lost so much weight in such a short time ..I am still feeling depressed its a horrible and so sad that we all going thru this without our fault ...I am going legal with them for sure they are the ones who sold us a cheapest nonmedical product we didn't go to France PIP "shop" factory and buy them so they are the ones here who will have to take care of us ... and I believe they will be in a lot of s*it and thr is no future for them , I am on no win no fee so nothing to loose..can PM you my solicitor contact numb so you could talk to him and see what is the best for you ! also get involved with pipactiongroup you can find a lot of info on facebook ..and if you ask me i think they are not telling us the right % for ruptures , in real life every second girl has problems ...i am one of them ..stay strong girls and if thr is anth i can help let me know ..

http://www.patientfocus.ie/site/index.php

Jea · 14-06-2012 9:12pm

gabby1205 wrote: »

Hi girls, I've had removal and replacement from a doctor who works both from <snip>. He specialises in cosmetic surgery for cancer patients and breast implant revisions normally when something has gone wrong. I highly recommend him. He's very straight and will cover all angles very thorough indeed. I had lateral displacement and an oversized pocket. My op took 2.5 hours because he is such a perfectionist he doesn't cut corners. I must mention I'm a pip patient from <snip>. I was fortunate to get a loan from the bank. I'll be paying it back for 5 years things will be v. tight but all worthed. I'm happier now with implants than original operation. I got FDA mentor implants this time round.I'm 6 weeks over operation and all is going well. I have great faith in this doc and as quoted by another highly qualified doc in <snip>he'd trust him with his life I'm writing a thankyou card to him now;)

Hi,

I have been following this thread for quite awhile but I have never posted until now. I had my implants with the <snip> in 2008. I have had an ultrasound in January and there was no rupture present but I would like the implants removed and replaced. Could you please forward me the name of your surgeon and the cost of replacement. I spent 3months trying to obtain my medical records from the <snip> and found there aftercare unsatisfactory the first time around so I wld prefer not to have further surgery with them. If anyone could send on other names and costs of surgeons they have used for replacement I would be very grateful.

Ickle Magoo · 14-06-2012 10:18pm

Just to remind all posters, please do not name specific clinics or doctors. For legal reasons we must remove such references.

Cheers.

pudsy25 · 15-06-2012 11:55am

I would appreciate any info on replacement cost. No need to mention doctor or clinic as I know there is a legal issue with this. I can get them removed for free but I have no idea of replacement cost. I need to know so I can figure out how long it will take me to get the money together or if its manageable at all. I would really really appreciate any estimates from girls who have had R&R.

saulite · 16-06-2012 7:57pm

pudsy25 wrote: »

I would appreciate any info on replacement cost. No need to mention doctor or clinic as I know there is a legal issue with this. I can get them removed for free but I have no idea of replacement cost. I need to know so I can figure out how long it will take me to get the money together or if its manageable at all. I would really really appreciate any estimates from girls who have had R&R.

You are right don't listen anybody unless you know the person what surgeon or clinic to go for , I HONESTLY THINK BE AWARE GIRLS AS I AM SURE THERE ARE MANY CLINICS ON THIS SITE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE BUSINESS OUT OF YOU !! Make your own decision and do a great research on product !! ;)good luck

gabby1205 · 17-06-2012 1:42pm

saulite wrote: »

pudsy25 wrote: »

I would appreciate any info on replacement cost. No need to mention doctor or clinic as I know there is a legal issue with this. I can get them removed for free but I have no idea of replacement cost. I need to know so I can figure out how long it will take me to get the money together or if its manageable at all. I would really really appreciate any estimates from girls who have had R&R.

You are right don't listen anybody unless you know the person what surgeon or clinic to go for , I HONESTLY THINK BE AWARE GIRLS AS I AM SURE THERE ARE MANY CLINICS ON THIS SITE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE BUSINESS OUT OF YOU !! Make your own decision and do a great research on product !! ;)good luck

Girls,
I paid just under 6000 euros a lot of money for r&r as I was referred to this cosmetic surgeon by hosp. In Dublin where I had MRI this hosp. only deals with reconstruction and this particular surgeon mainly deals with reconstruction of cancer patients aswell. I was shocked at the price but honestly he is an excellent surgeon a perfectionist. I had to go to the banks and will be paying back for 5 years;( but I can sleep at night now;)

PiP Implants support thread - Irish petition in post #1

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