was I the victim if of racial....something?

Toby Take a Bow · 12-06-2012 08:24PM

sweeney1971 wrote: »

This attiude is just taking root in Ireland. It has taken over in the UK. If this happened in the UK and you dare to complain you will be branded a Racist, as only white people are considered Racist. Race Law's only work if you are accusing a white person as non white people are not racists according to the PC lot.

It's political correctness gone mad! And other such cliches.

Nodin · 12-06-2012 08:24PM

Jester252 wrote: »

OP if your a white male you just have to take it

No, they don't. They can report the restaurant.

aaronjumper · 12-06-2012 08:25PM

Jester252 wrote: »

OP if your a white male you just have to take it

Down with this sort of thing!

Hande hoche! · 12-06-2012 08:25PM

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

It's political correctness gone mad! And other such cliches.

Health and safety innit.

Sir Gallagher · 12-06-2012 08:26PM

I'd say it was something simple like they only had a chinese speaking waitress on to cover the private room or something or something to do with the kitchen. Usually in Chinese restaurants over here they have different menus for the average punter and chinese folk. Standard Curry or Satay etc. for us and more local traditional dishes for themselves which usually wouldn't be to the average Irish punters taste. Maybe they just do their own menu in the private room.

Could be a number of things i suppose. I would hardly call it racism, unfortunately it's the type of thing some "persecuted", woe is me, middle-class white folks just lap up though.

Ms.M · 12-06-2012 08:26PM

Yes, this was racist going by OP's account.
Signed,
the PC lot.

Seriously, racially based discrimination shouldn't be allowed against anyone.

I think I know where this is too... starts with a U? Yes?

Ellis Dee · 12-06-2012 08:27PM

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

Yes op that was completely racist against you.
Wonder how long before the bleeding heart do-gooders rush in to advise you!

Oh no just reread the post and your white so they won't give you any advise because you probably deserved it!

Your first sentence was sensible and then you descended into drivel.:rolleyes:

People who give advice are not necessarily bleeding hearts, and IMHO there is nothing wrong with people wanting to do good. Perhaps you should try it.;)

If the OP has coherent witnesses to that event, I would recommend (and my heart is not bleeding right now) that he make a complaint to the Equality Authority, who will advise him on what steps to take next:

http://www.equality.ie/en/

If it happened the way he describes it, I would say he has a reasonably good chance of making a plausible prima facie case that he has been discriminated against.:eek::eek:

The overwhelming majority of people assisted by the Equality Authority are Irish and white-complexioned.;)

My name is URL · 12-06-2012 08:28PM

grindle wrote: »

Totally crazy, don't understand some people's reaction of "House Rules", etc.

Why? The rule could simply be 'no eating in karaoke rooms'. It's entirely up to management whether or not they want to make exceptions to that rule.

Without further info it's hard to form an opinion on it one way or another. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it's a racist thing, or the overall policy of the place. It seems like quite an unusual way to display racism. For all anyone knows it could have been a misunderstanding between the OP and staff member.

orchidsrpretty · 12-06-2012 08:31PM

My name is URL wrote: »

It might be a bit racialist but it sounds innocent enough at the same time. House rules and all that. Saying that they don't allow eating in the private rooms is hardly racist.. maybe they changed the rules since you were there last? It's not as if they were denying you entry or service because of your race.

They kinda did, we could only order from the buffet whereas if we went upstairs we would of been offered a proper menu. As we were sitting there another group of Irish and Asians came in and were shown upstairs.
We did ask the waitress when she was finished and if we could rent her for an hour or two but she said no for some reason...

Pessimist · 12-06-2012 08:31PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I'd say it was something simple like they only had a chinese speaking waitress on to cover the private room or something or something to do with the kitchen. Usually in Chinese restaurants over here they have different menus for the average punter and chinese folk. Standard Curry or Satay etc. for us and more local traditional dishes for themselves which usually wouldn't be to the average Irish punters taste. Maybe they just do their own menu in the private room.

Could be a number of things i suppose. I would hardly call it racism, unfortunately it's the type of thing some "persecuted", woe is me, middle-class white folks just lap up though.

I totally agree with this post. I really don't think it was racism. I think some of the comments on this thread have been more racist tbh!

RobbingBandit · 12-06-2012 08:33PM

Just go in like this next time OP
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sweeney1971 · 12-06-2012 08:33PM

Why should you take it and put up with being treated like that in your own Country?

I went to a walk in Doctors in the UK with Chest Pains. I was told as I was the first one there I would be the first one to be seen.

Then it started filling up with every Nationality on the Planet. They saw them before a White person even though I was there first. The Doctors were out meeting and greeting them. When they got round to me, they just said what was I doing there and why did I not see my own Doctor.

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages) and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.
I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

Tesco Massacre · 12-06-2012 08:34PM

They probably heard you murdering Like a Virgin the first time you were there so decided to ban your ass from the karaoke room.

forfuxsake · 12-06-2012 08:36PM

sweeney1971 wrote: »

Why should you take it and put up with being treated like that in your own Country?

I went to a walk in Doctors in the UK with Chest Pains. I was told as I was the first one there I would be the first one to be seen.

Then it started filling up with every Nationality on the Planet. They saw them before a White person even though I was there first. The Doctors were out meeting and greeting them. When they got round to me, they just said what was I doing there and why did I not see my own Doctor.

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages) and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.
I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

Maybe the others were actually sick:eek:

Nodin · 12-06-2012 08:39PM

sweeney1971 wrote: »

Why should you take it and put up with being treated like that in your own Country?

I went to a walk in Doctors in the UK with Chest Pains. I was told as I was the first one there I would be the first one to be seen.

Then it started filling up with every Nationality on the Planet. They saw them before a White person even though I was there first. The Doctors were out meeting and greeting them. When they got round to me, they just said what was I doing there and why did I not see my own Doctor.

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages) and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.
I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

I believe you.

Others here - PC liberal bleeding heart types - will dismiss your anecdote as a load of self serving fictional shite. Not me though. I believe you.

Ricardo G · 12-06-2012 08:40PM

You should have told the waitress you were a black belt in Karaoke, issue solved

Toby Take a Bow · 12-06-2012 08:40PM

sweeney1971 wrote: »

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages)

Why would you have probably been the only one paying National Insurance?

sweeney1971 wrote: »

and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.

What did she say to this? And what happened when you made an official complaint?

sweeney1971 wrote: »

I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

grindle · 12-06-2012 08:40PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Why? The rule could simply be 'no eating in karaoke rooms'. It's entirely up to management whether or not they want to make exceptions to that rule.

They can make those exceptions, but if some place decided to have a sign that says "No Smoking In Restaurant - Except For Arabs", every other culture and race would have every right to piss and moan, as in this case.
Golf clubs that don't allow women? Bullshit.
Women's days at gyms? Bullshit.

Make the rules, expect the fallout.

Tesco Massacre · 12-06-2012 08:43PM

When I got on the bus yesterday the driver, an extraordinarily handsome black man, said thanks to the guy before me when he put his money in the slot thingy. When I put mine in he said nothing.

Was I a victim of racialisticness? Almost certainly.

strobe · 12-06-2012 08:43PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I'd say it was something simple like they only had a chinese speaking waitress on to cover the private room or something or something to do with the kitchen. Usually in Chinese restaurants over here they have different menus for the average punter and chinese folk. Standard Curry or Satay etc. for us and more local traditional dishes for themselves which usually wouldn't be to the average Irish punters taste. Maybe they just do their own menu in the private room.

Could be a number of things i suppose. I would hardly call it racism, unfortunately it's the type of thing some "persecuted", woe is me, middle-class white folks just lap up though.

But that wouldn't make any sense as an excuse(s) really. The OP and co ate the food served in the room last time they were there. So a 'we can't let them in, they will not like our traditional dishes served in that room' reason doesn't make sense, they ate in the room last time and presumably enjoyed the food as they wanted to eat in there again.

What difference would a Chinese speaking waitress only make, point at menu, she brings what's pointed at. Thousands (hundreds of thousands/millions?) of people manage to eat in restaurants where no one speaks the same language as them the world over every single day.

El Weirdo · 12-06-2012 08:44PM

sweeney1971 wrote: »

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages) and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.

Wow. It's a disgrace that you weren't seen quicker, especially when you so clearly made a big attempt to endear yourself to her.

And to think, some people on this site actually want to get rid of this guy ==>:rolleyes:

SMASH THE UNIONS · 12-06-2012 08:45PM

The silence from the usual bleeding-hearts in deafening. As if anti-white racism is news.
The thread on the death of Irish student Nicola Furlong at the hands of two black Americans, one of the biggest news stories in recent weeks, was closed after about 2 pages. And the mods wonder why they're accused of having an agenda.

Toby Take a Bow · 12-06-2012 08:50PM

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

The silence from the usual bleeding-hearts in deafening. As if anti-white racism is news.
The thread on the death of Irish student Nicola Furlong at the hands of two black Americans, one of the biggest news stories in recent weeks, was closed after about 2 pages. And the mods wonder why they're accused of having an agenda.

That makes no sense. Plenty of us bleeding heart liberals saying it was wrong. But don't let that destroy the two ideological points that make up one hundred percent of your online troll personality.

Nodin · 12-06-2012 08:50PM

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

The silence from the usual bleeding-hearts in deafening. As if anti-white racism is news.
The thread on the death of Irish student Nicola Furlong at the hands of two black Americans, one of the biggest news stories in recent weeks, was closed after about 2 pages. And the mods wonder why they're accused of having an agenda.

....what has the death of that young woman to do with "anti-white racism"?

What "agenda" are they supposed to have?

Benny_Cake · 12-06-2012 08:51PM

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

The silence from the usual bleeding-hearts in deafening. As if anti-white racism is news.
The thread on the death of Irish student Nicola Furlong at the hands of two black Americans, one of the biggest news stories in recent weeks, was closed after about 2 pages. And the mods wonder why they're accused of having an agenda.

You, of course, have no agenda whatsoever - I can tell that by your name.

Duggys Housemate · 12-06-2012 08:54PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Wow. It's a disgrace that you weren't seen quicker, especially when you so clearly made a big attempt to endear yourself to her.

And to think, some people on this site actually want to get rid of this guy ==>:rolleyes:

But he says he didn't say anything until everybody else was seen, so unless the doctor had a time machine, and knew he was going to get mad at the end, your argument does not make sense.

I don't think this is a big deal, and were an asian group told they were to have an European I wouldn't care either, but it is funny the way some commentators are probably taking the opposite position to the position they would take were the positions reversed; and are inclined to disbelieve stories they would believe were the racial groups reversed.

Gets popcorn.

El Weirdo · 12-06-2012 08:54PM

SMASH THE UNIONS wrote: »

The silence from the usual bleeding-hearts in deafening. As if anti-white racism is news.
The thread on the death of Irish student Nicola Furlong at the hands of two black Americans, one of the biggest news stories in recent weeks, was closed after about 2 pages. And the mods wonder why they're accused of having an agenda.

If you have a problem with the moderation on this or any other forum, I suggest that you take it to Feedback instead of derailing this thread with your crap.

/mod

SMASH THE UNIONS · 12-06-2012 08:55PM

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

That makes no sense. Plenty of us bleeding heart liberals saying it was wrong. But don't let that destroy the two ideological points that make up one hundred percent of your online troll personality.

Glad you admit this was anti-white racism committed by Asians.

Next step - how do we stamp it out? Can we fine or jail them like we do to white owned businesses found guilty of racist practices?

Sir Gallagher · 12-06-2012 08:58PM

sweeney1971 wrote: »

Why should you take it and put up with being treated like that in your own Country?

I went to a walk in Doctors in the UK with Chest Pains. I was told as I was the first one there I would be the first one to be seen.

Then it started filling up with every Nationality on the Planet. They saw them before a White person even though I was there first. The Doctors were out meeting and greeting them. When they got round to me, they just said what was I doing there and why did I not see my own Doctor.

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages) and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.
I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

http://image1.masterfile.com/em_w/00/52/91/700-00529162w.jpg

sweeney1971 · 12-06-2012 09:05PM

Forfoxsake when you are shoved to the back of the line in a Doctors with chest pains after paying NI Contributions all your life and someone who has never contributed anything to the system gets put in front you then and only then will 'get it'

I was there first and the rules were first one in first one to be seen. I did not expect better treatment because I am white, I expected to be treated because I got there first.

was I the victim if of racial....something?

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