was I the victim if of racial....something?

orchidsrpretty · 12-06-2012 7:02pm #1

Last weekend I went out to a karaoke restaurant in Dublin. We booked a private room. We were aware that there is a 50e an hour charge for the use of the room which we had no issues with. When we arrived we were shown to a table in the main restaurant. I called the waitress over and explained that we had booked the private room and wanted to eat in there.

She said there is no eating allowed in the private rooms, they are just for karaoke. Now ad I had been there before with other friends we were able to eat in the room. When I told her we had eaten there before, she asked me was I with an Asian person which I said I was and she replied that this was the reason as there is different rules(and menu) for Asian people so there was no chance we were allowed eat in the room unless she said we bring an Asian person the next time we go.

We decided then to just leave and go somewhere else. There wad mixed opinions in the group, mine was their restaurant their rules but a few other's were pretty out raged that we were treated like that.

Should we of made a fuss?

In other countries like Russia and Egypt, there are different prices for foreigners and locals which is fine but now it seems people can get discriminated like that in our own country.

God damn our round eyes.

desertcircus · 12-06-2012 7:03pm

Where was this?

Tesco Massacre · 12-06-2012 7:04pm

Beat it, honky.

TeddyTedson · 12-06-2012 7:05pm

Sounds like you were most definitely raced:eek:

aaronjumper · 12-06-2012 7:05pm

Just bring an Asian person next time and you can eat wherever you want.

PrincessLola · 12-06-2012 7:06pm

Your post was hard to follow, could you maybe explain further and say where this was ?

smash · 12-06-2012 7:07pm

I heard that white people aren't allowed win in Asian casinos too.

Ps you should have pulled at the corner of your eyes... If they're allowed be racist then so are you!

the groutch · 12-06-2012 7:07pm

They probably feel threatened by our huge d*cks.

Pushtrak · 12-06-2012 7:07pm

Name and shame, OP. (Of the restaurant, obviously.)

Doc Ruby · 12-06-2012 7:08pm

This sounds a bit mad to me Ted. What was the name of the place?

Hande hoche! · 12-06-2012 7:08pm

Your story needs more kung fu.

Dr Turk Turkelton · 12-06-2012 7:08pm

Yes op that was completely racist against you.
Wonder how long before the bleeding heart do-gooders rush in to advise you!

Oh no just reread the post and your white so they won't give you any advise because you probably deserved it!

Sir Gallagher · 12-06-2012 7:08pm

orchidsrpretty wrote: »

Last weekend I went out to a karaoke restaurant in Dublin. We booked a private room. We were aware that there is a 50e an hour charge for the use of the room which we had no issues with. When we arrived we were shown to a table in the main restaurant. I called the waitress over and explained that we had booked the private room and wanted to eat in there.

She said there is no eating allowed in the private rooms, they are just for karaoke. Now ad I had been there before with other friends we were able to eat in the room. When I told her we had eaten there before, she asked me was I with an Asian person which I said I was and she replied that this was the reason as there is different rules(and menu) for Asian people so there was no chance we were allowed eat in the room unless she said we bring an Asian person the next time we go.

We decided then to just leave and go somewhere else. There wad mixed opinions in the group, mine was their restaurant their rules but a few other's were pretty out raged that we were treated like that.

Should we of made a fuss?

In other countries like Russia and Egypt, there are different prices for foreigners and locals which is fine but now it seems people can get discriminated like that in our own country.

God damn our round eyes.

You mean you don't have your own Asian? Scarlet for you.

Pushtrak · 12-06-2012 7:09pm

PrincessLola wrote: »

Your post was hard to follow, could you maybe explain further and say where this was ?

He went with a group one time, and was allowed eat in a private area because an asian person was with them. This time, there wasn't an asian person so they weren't allowed use of the private area.

TeddyTedson · 12-06-2012 7:09pm

Doc Ruby wrote: »

This sounds a bit mad to me Ted. What was the name of the place?

Ming Yen I think

strobe · 12-06-2012 7:10pm

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

Yes op that was completely racist against you.
Wonder how long before the bleeding heart do-gooders rush in to advise you!

Oh no just reread the post and your white so they won't give you any advise because you probably deserved it!

Squible gobble chubally gloo.

mikemac1 · 12-06-2012 7:11pm

Probably a gambling session going on in the private room

Those Asians do be mad for the gambling

Bad Panda · 12-06-2012 7:12pm

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Ming Yen I think

'Ming' being the operative word when talking about some Asian food.

aujopimur · 12-06-2012 7:12pm

Great bunch of lads the (Chinese) Asians.

aaronjumper · 12-06-2012 7:13pm

strobe wrote: »

Squible gobble chubally gloo.

Almost had it but you need to phrase it in the present tense.

mikemac1 · 12-06-2012 7:14pm

orchidsrpretty wrote: »

Should we of made a fuss?

Leave it for now, you may have a slanted view of what happened

Tesco Massacre · 12-06-2012 7:14pm

Love a good sing-song do the Asians.

Takes their minds off the tentacle porn.

chughes · 12-06-2012 7:14pm

Maybe they remembered your singing from the last time and just thought of any old excuse not to let you in there.

My name is URL · 12-06-2012 7:14pm

It might be a bit racialist but it sounds innocent enough at the same time. House rules and all that. Saying that they don't allow eating in the private rooms is hardly racist.. maybe they changed the rules since you were there last? It's not as if they were denying you entry or service because of your race.

Nodin · 12-06-2012 7:15pm

Bit mental, tbh.

Duggys Housemate · 12-06-2012 7:18pm

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

You mean you don't have your own Asian? Scarlet for you.

Good joke, always much funnier, though, if you spell it scarleh

grindle · 12-06-2012 7:20pm

Totally crazy, don't understand some people's reaction of "House Rules", etc.

Maybe we should get the blacks back to the cotton, and the gays to the seminary?

Fuck it... Women, we want your vote given back to us.
Ye're not doing anything sensible with them anyway, only feck-acting.

sweeney1971 · 12-06-2012 7:21pm

This attiude is just taking root in Ireland. It has taken over in the UK. If this happened in the UK and you dare to complain you will be branded a Racist, as only white people are considered Racist. Race Law's only work if you are accusing a white person as non white people are not racists according to the PC lot.

Toby Take a Bow · 12-06-2012 7:22pm

My name is URL wrote: »

It might be a bit racialist but it sounds innocent enough at the same time. House rules and all that. Saying that they don't allow eating in the private rooms is hardly racist.. maybe they changed the rules since you were there last? It's not as if they were denying you entry or service because of your race.

Did the OP not say that they would be allowed to eat had they 'brought their own asian'? Seems a bit nuts to me, and difficult to argue that it's not racist.

Jester252 · 12-06-2012 7:23pm

OP if your a white male you just have to take it

Fuinseog · 12-06-2012 7:24pm

orchidsrpretty wrote: »

Last weekend I went out to a karaoke restaurant in Dublin. We booked a private room. We were aware that there is a 50e an hour charge for the use of the room which we had no issues with. When we arrived we were shown to a table in the main restaurant. I called the waitress over and explained that we had booked the private room and wanted to eat in there.

She said there is no eating allowed in the private rooms, they are just for karaoke. Now ad I had been there before with other friends we were able to eat in the room. When I told her we had eaten there before, she asked me was I with an Asian person which I said I was and she replied that this was the reason as there is different rules(and menu) for Asian people so there was no chance we were allowed eat in the room unless she said we bring an Asian person the next time we go.

We decided then to just leave and go somewhere else. There wad mixed opinions in the group, mine was their restaurant their rules but a few other's were pretty out raged that we were treated like that.

Should we of made a fuss?

In other countries like Russia and Egypt, there are different prices for foreigners and locals which is fine but now it seems people can get discriminated like that in our own country.

God damn our round eyes.

there is a different menu and price for chinnese in Dublin. a lot of Irish would not eat hens feet and the chinnese tend to earn less.

Toby Take a Bow · 12-06-2012 7:24pm

sweeney1971 wrote: »

This attiude is just taking root in Ireland. It has taken over in the UK. If this happened in the UK and you dare to complain you will be branded a Racist, as only white people are considered Racist. Race Law's only work if you are accusing a white person as non white people are not racists according to the PC lot.

It's political correctness gone mad! And other such cliches.

Nodin · 12-06-2012 7:24pm

Jester252 wrote: »

OP if your a white male you just have to take it

No, they don't. They can report the restaurant.

aaronjumper · 12-06-2012 7:25pm

Jester252 wrote: »

OP if your a white male you just have to take it

Down with this sort of thing!

Hande hoche! · 12-06-2012 7:25pm

Toby Take a Bow wrote: »

It's political correctness gone mad! And other such cliches.

Health and safety innit.

Sir Gallagher · 12-06-2012 7:26pm

I'd say it was something simple like they only had a chinese speaking waitress on to cover the private room or something or something to do with the kitchen. Usually in Chinese restaurants over here they have different menus for the average punter and chinese folk. Standard Curry or Satay etc. for us and more local traditional dishes for themselves which usually wouldn't be to the average Irish punters taste. Maybe they just do their own menu in the private room.

Could be a number of things i suppose. I would hardly call it racism, unfortunately it's the type of thing some "persecuted", woe is me, middle-class white folks just lap up though.

Ms.M · 12-06-2012 7:26pm

Yes, this was racist going by OP's account.
Signed,
the PC lot.

Seriously, racially based discrimination shouldn't be allowed against anyone.

I think I know where this is too... starts with a U? Yes?

Ellis Dee · 12-06-2012 7:27pm

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

Yes op that was completely racist against you.
Wonder how long before the bleeding heart do-gooders rush in to advise you!

Oh no just reread the post and your white so they won't give you any advise because you probably deserved it!

Your first sentence was sensible and then you descended into drivel.:rolleyes:

People who give advice are not necessarily bleeding hearts, and IMHO there is nothing wrong with people wanting to do good. Perhaps you should try it.;)

If the OP has coherent witnesses to that event, I would recommend (and my heart is not bleeding right now) that he make a complaint to the Equality Authority, who will advise him on what steps to take next:

http://www.equality.ie/en/

If it happened the way he describes it, I would say he has a reasonably good chance of making a plausible prima facie case that he has been discriminated against.:eek::eek:

The overwhelming majority of people assisted by the Equality Authority are Irish and white-complexioned.;)

My name is URL · 12-06-2012 7:28pm

grindle wrote: »

Totally crazy, don't understand some people's reaction of "House Rules", etc.

Why? The rule could simply be 'no eating in karaoke rooms'. It's entirely up to management whether or not they want to make exceptions to that rule.

Without further info it's hard to form an opinion on it one way or another. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it's a racist thing, or the overall policy of the place. It seems like quite an unusual way to display racism. For all anyone knows it could have been a misunderstanding between the OP and staff member.

orchidsrpretty · 12-06-2012 7:31pm

My name is URL wrote: »

It might be a bit racialist but it sounds innocent enough at the same time. House rules and all that. Saying that they don't allow eating in the private rooms is hardly racist.. maybe they changed the rules since you were there last? It's not as if they were denying you entry or service because of your race.

They kinda did, we could only order from the buffet whereas if we went upstairs we would of been offered a proper menu. As we were sitting there another group of Irish and Asians came in and were shown upstairs.
We did ask the waitress when she was finished and if we could rent her for an hour or two but she said no for some reason...

Pessimist · 12-06-2012 7:31pm

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I'd say it was something simple like they only had a chinese speaking waitress on to cover the private room or something or something to do with the kitchen. Usually in Chinese restaurants over here they have different menus for the average punter and chinese folk. Standard Curry or Satay etc. for us and more local traditional dishes for themselves which usually wouldn't be to the average Irish punters taste. Maybe they just do their own menu in the private room.

Could be a number of things i suppose. I would hardly call it racism, unfortunately it's the type of thing some "persecuted", woe is me, middle-class white folks just lap up though.

I totally agree with this post. I really don't think it was racism. I think some of the comments on this thread have been more racist tbh!

RobbingBandit · 12-06-2012 7:33pm

Just go in like this next time OP
south-park-1208-screen-1.jpg

sweeney1971 · 12-06-2012 7:33pm

Why should you take it and put up with being treated like that in your own Country?

I went to a walk in Doctors in the UK with Chest Pains. I was told as I was the first one there I would be the first one to be seen.

Then it started filling up with every Nationality on the Planet. They saw them before a White person even though I was there first. The Doctors were out meeting and greeting them. When they got round to me, they just said what was I doing there and why did I not see my own Doctor.

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages) and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.
I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

Tesco Massacre · 12-06-2012 7:34pm

They probably heard you murdering Like a Virgin the first time you were there so decided to ban your ass from the karaoke room.

forfuxsake · 12-06-2012 7:36pm

sweeney1971 wrote: »

Why should you take it and put up with being treated like that in your own Country?

I went to a walk in Doctors in the UK with Chest Pains. I was told as I was the first one there I would be the first one to be seen.

Then it started filling up with every Nationality on the Planet. They saw them before a White person even though I was there first. The Doctors were out meeting and greeting them. When they got round to me, they just said what was I doing there and why did I not see my own Doctor.

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages) and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.
I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

Maybe the others were actually sick:eek:

Nodin · 12-06-2012 7:39pm

sweeney1971 wrote: »

Why should you take it and put up with being treated like that in your own Country?

I went to a walk in Doctors in the UK with Chest Pains. I was told as I was the first one there I would be the first one to be seen.

Then it started filling up with every Nationality on the Planet. They saw them before a White person even though I was there first. The Doctors were out meeting and greeting them. When they got round to me, they just said what was I doing there and why did I not see my own Doctor.

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages) and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.
I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

I believe you.

Others here - PC liberal bleeding heart types - will dismiss your anecdote as a load of self serving fictional shite. Not me though. I believe you.

Ricardo G · 12-06-2012 7:40pm

You should have told the waitress you were a black belt in Karaoke, issue solved

Toby Take a Bow · 12-06-2012 7:40pm

sweeney1971 wrote: »

When I pointed out to her that I was probably the only one to pay National Insurance (hence paying her wages)

Why would you have probably been the only one paying National Insurance?

sweeney1971 wrote: »

and that I could not get in to see my own Doctor because the rights of non Nationals were greater than mine.

What did she say to this? And what happened when you made an official complaint?

sweeney1971 wrote: »

I also reminded her that it still was England and not quiet Third World yet!

grindle · 12-06-2012 7:40pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Why? The rule could simply be 'no eating in karaoke rooms'. It's entirely up to management whether or not they want to make exceptions to that rule.

They can make those exceptions, but if some place decided to have a sign that says "No Smoking In Restaurant - Except For Arabs", every other culture and race would have every right to piss and moan, as in this case.
Golf clubs that don't allow women? Bullshit.
Women's days at gyms? Bullshit.

Make the rules, expect the fallout.

Tesco Massacre · 12-06-2012 7:43pm

When I got on the bus yesterday the driver, an extraordinarily handsome black man, said thanks to the guy before me when he put his money in the slot thingy. When I put mine in he said nothing.

Was I a victim of racialisticness? Almost certainly.

strobe · 12-06-2012 7:43pm

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I'd say it was something simple like they only had a chinese speaking waitress on to cover the private room or something or something to do with the kitchen. Usually in Chinese restaurants over here they have different menus for the average punter and chinese folk. Standard Curry or Satay etc. for us and more local traditional dishes for themselves which usually wouldn't be to the average Irish punters taste. Maybe they just do their own menu in the private room.

Could be a number of things i suppose. I would hardly call it racism, unfortunately it's the type of thing some "persecuted", woe is me, middle-class white folks just lap up though.

But that wouldn't make any sense as an excuse(s) really. The OP and co ate the food served in the room last time they were there. So a 'we can't let them in, they will not like our traditional dishes served in that room' reason doesn't make sense, they ate in the room last time and presumably enjoyed the food as they wanted to eat in there again.

What difference would a Chinese speaking waitress only make, point at menu, she brings what's pointed at. Thousands (hundreds of thousands/millions?) of people manage to eat in restaurants where no one speaks the same language as them the world over every single day.

was I the victim if of racial....something?

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