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Do women have all the power...

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Downlinz wrote: »
    Women under 30 hold all the cards, men hold the cards when with women over 30. Fact

    I defo don't agree with that. Women reach their sexual peak in their early thirties and become much more confident. They're obv not going to get men in their 20's but alot of older men in 30s, 40s and 50s would still be very interested.

    It's all about confidence. You gotta love yourself first and be happy with yourself no matter what age!

    Women in their 20's can get those men too, fact of the matter is a woman's appearance is by far the most sexually attractive trait in a woman and it fades over time. Sure confidence and personality definitely adds to it but it doesn't have the power to bedazzle men that looks do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    I defo don't agree with that. Women reach their sexual peak in their early thirties and become much more confident. They're obv not going to get men in their 20's but alot of older men in 30s, 40s and 50s would still be very interested.

    It's all about confidence. You gotta love yourself first and be happy with yourself no matter what age!
    Some men in their 20s too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭grindle


    djk1000 wrote: »
    It really depends on the two people involved, you can't generalise.

    Of course you can generalise. Why can't you generalise?

    In general, as somebody else said, up to the age of thirty, women get to choose who visits their vagina.
    After thirty, men (protection presumed) get to withhold babies.
    This doesn't mean that's what all people are like. It's a generalisation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    Women in their 20's can get those men too, fact of the matter is a woman's appearance is by far the most sexually attractive trait in a woman and it fades over time. Sure confidence and personality definitely adds to it but it doesn't have the power to bedazzle men that looks do.

    Eva Mendes, Heather Graham, Rachel McAdams, Katie Holmes, Katharine Heigl are all gorgeous and in their 30s.

    Your looks don't fade in your thirties.

    The original concept of women having less power in their 30's was because they were driven by their biological clock and the joke was usually that they were 'becoming desperate for any man'.

    I really don't think this is true . With biological advancements women are having babies well into their forties, and a lot of women are getting into their stride in their careers at this stage and are more independant, and putting babies off for a while anyway.

    Again it's all about confidence.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    grindle wrote: »
    Of course you can generalise. Why can't you generalise?

    In general, as somebody else said, up to the age of thirty, women get to choose who visits their vagina.
    After thirty, men (protection presumed) get to withhold babies.
    This doesn't mean that's what all people are like. It's a generalisation.

    Two words: sperm donor!!! :) They're not going to let every man into their vagina the minute they hit 30! Alot of women seem to be going the sperm donor route these days, much less hassle...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    Daveysil15 wrote: »

    To be honest I hate those type of lists - they all paint women to be virtuous, divine beings who NEVER think of sex, while all men want are to get you into bed.

    where are the lists that deals with women who actually will sleep with you on the first/second meeting because she might just want to! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Sure confidence and personality definitely adds to it but it doesn't have the power to bedazzle men that looks do.
    Good looks are great right up till she opens her mouth. Personality, confidence, these are everything. Give me a good craic slightly kinky "average" looking woman over a shriek of a supermodel any day of the week. Your brain is your biggest sex organ, if your partner can't engage it you've got nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    To be honest I hate those type of lists - they all paint women to be virtuous, divine beings who NEVER think of sex, while all men want are to get you into bed.

    where are the lists that deals with women who actually will sleep with you on the first/second meeting because she might just want to! :rolleyes:

    The Coppers Guest List?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Women in their 20's can get those men too, fact of the matter is a woman's appearance is by far the most sexually attractive trait in a woman and it fades over time. Sure confidence and personality definitely adds to it but it doesn't have the power to bedazzle men that looks do.

    Eva Mendes, Heather Graham, Rachel McAdams, Katie Holmes, Katharine Heigl are all gorgeous and in their 30s.

    Your looks don't fade in your thirties.

    The original concept of women having less power in their 30's was because they were driven by their biological clock and the joke was usually that they were 'becoming desperate for any man'.

    I really don't think this is true . With biological advancements women are having babies well into their forties, and a lot of women are getting into their stride in their careers at this stage and are more independant, and putting babies off for a while anyway.

    Again it's all about confidence.

    Generally speaking older women are less attractive therefore they have less power over men. Its as simple as that really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    The Coppers Guest List?

    I'm always at the top of that list :rolleyes:

    but yea I'm being serious like all those '5 signs to tell he likes you' all imply that you're not going to sleep with him until you have the ring on your finger, it baffles and annoys me. Apparently women are not aloud to have sex drives :rolleyes: and men will only truely like you if you don't have sex with them.

    I believe in trying the goods before I buy :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    Women have all the power, more power than You can imagine. Since puberty, we men have made 95% of our decisions based on the wishes of the holders of the Double Y Chromosome. How we dress, act, walk, talk, move, groove, work, jerk, excel, tell, joke, laugh, compete, and conquer relates to the golden pursuit…YOU.

    That's from that link.....


    Haha you have to love them being totally wrong, double X chromosome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    Women have all the power, more power than You can imagine. Since puberty, we men have made 95% of our decisions based on the wishes of the holders of the Double Y Chromosome. How we dress, act, walk, talk, move, groove, work, jerk, excel, tell, joke, laugh, compete, and conquer relates to the golden pursuit…YOU.

    That's from that link.....


    Haha you have to love them being totally wrong, double X chromosome!

    Its a whole load of bull**** if you ask me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    I'm always at the top of that list :rolleyes:

    but yea I'm being serious like all those '5 signs to tell he likes you' all imply that you're not going to sleep with him until you have the ring on your finger, it baffles and annoys me. Apparently women are not aloud to have sex drives :rolleyes: and men will only truely like you if you don't have sex with them.

    I believe in trying the goods before I buy :D

    I know, I hate those types of lists. They make both men and women look bad, but they also make meeting people into some sort of negative thing where you have to trick or "conquer" the other person.
    And sadly lots of people buy into them. I think they're people who've never grown out of the schoolyard us-against-them approach to the opposite sex.

    Meeting people should be a positive, great thing where you try to find someone you enjoy being with. I hate when people try to make it into more than that, and especially when they turn into something negative.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    Generally speaking older women are less attractive therefore they have less power over men. Its as simple as that really.

    Scanlas the 2nd it's not about power. You've an awful view of men, women, power and sex.

    Where's the love? You know - two people caring about each other?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Generally speaking older women are less attractive therefore they have less power over men. Its as simple as that really.
    Of course but the 100 per cent thing is hilarious, as well as the arbitrary figure of 30. :)

    Looks like the guy who started this discussion believes women have the power and won't be happy til everyone agrees with him. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    I know, I hate those types of lists. They make both men and women look bad, but they also make meeting people into some sort of negative thing where you have to trick or "conquer" the other person.
    And sadly lots of people buy into them. I think they're people who've never grown out of the schoolyard us-against-them approach to the opposite sex.

    Meeting people should be a positive, great thing where you try to find someone you enjoy being with. I hate when people try to make it into more than that, and especially when they turn into something negative.

    I completely agree, although those sort of articles really target those women who have very 'strict' standards when it comes to men - ie they have a specific list of what they want, and if he doesn't have everything she won't bother, and some men are exactly the same!

    I suppose it's kind of like a more detailed version of the classic - "If a boy hits you, he must like you" - it's all rubbish if you ask me, there are no set rules when it comes to finding someone, but some people will insist that there is a specific formula ...

    I tend to avoid those kind of lists like a plague if I'm honest, they're all ridiculous if you ask me basically sugar coating the same thing over and over again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Women have all the power, more power than You can imagine. Since puberty, we men have made 95% of our decisions based on the wishes of the holders of the Double Y Chromosome. How we dress, act, walk, talk, move, groove, work, jerk, excel, tell, joke, laugh, compete, and conquer relates to the golden pursuit…YOU.

    That's from that link.....


    Haha you have to love them being totally wrong, double X chromosome!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    The Sister hood of the magical vagina of total power?

    First you must master how to sign your name with your vagina! Get those pelvic floor muscles working :pac:

    Jeny, I have to say you made me laugh :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Generally speaking older women are less attractive therefore they have less power over men. Its as simple as that really.

    Scanlas the 2nd it's not about power. You've an awful view of men, women, power and sex.

    Where's the love? You know - two people caring about each other?

    What's not about power?

    The simple fact of matters are that the more attractive a woman is the more influence she has over men. Do you deny this statement?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    What's not about power?

    The simple fact of matters are that the more attractive a woman is the more influence she has over men. Do you deny this statement?
    Heh, maybe young men who think with their nuts. They tend not to have any power themselves to attract your powergaming women anyway so the whole thing seems a bit irrelevant.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 279 ✭✭Pa Dee


    Fnarrrr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Ms. Pingui


    I think women do hold a bit more of the power than men. It really depends on a few factors though, such as looks, personality and confidence. A good looking girl can probably get whoever she wants, especially if she has the confidence to do a bit of approaching herself.
    I don't believe in all this waiting around for men to come to you. Just go out there and get what you want! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Fair bit of speaking for others here despite having no insight - I take it a lot of the posters are very young? Must be if they think 30 = woman all of a sudden decrepit! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Fizzlesque


    Generally speaking older women are less attractive therefore they have less power over men. Its as simple as that really.

    I must be above average then :D

    Joking aside, I've been chatted up/asked out by more twenty-something men since reaching my thirties (and a few since I've been in my forties) than when I was in my twenties.

    Perhaps the fact I'm not looking for marriage and babies makes a difference, but I suspect it has more to do with the fact I'm much more confident and self-assured now, than I was when I was in my 20s.

    Some men age well, some don't. Some women age well, some don't. It's not necessarily related to gender; good genes and taking care of yourself (getting some exercise, eating well, sleeping enough, taking care of your skin and hair etc) determine whether or not you'll age well, not whether you're a man or a woman.

    In relation to the posters who have commented on men preferring to do the chasing, it has been my experience that they do. I'm not shy about talking to a man I like, but of the many dalliances I've enjoyed over the years, the ones that came about because I did the chasing haven't lasted as long or been as exciting as the ones that came about because I was chased. Perhaps this has something to do with 'opportunism', as in, the men I've liked have just availed of the opportunity, whereas the men who've liked me first have continued to like me and were looking for more than an 'opportunity' in the first place.

    I'm currently seeing someone a lot younger than me, and he did all the chasing. Another great thing (for me) about getting older has been the ability to let go of the need to be feisty and deny my femininity for fear of being seen as weak. I've learned to embrace my femininity and have discovered it's very empowering, as opposed to the incorrect idea I had in my earlier years that I needed to 'prove' I could manage everything alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Can I just reject this idea of "power" and that this is all a game with winning and losing? Instead I'll just go with having good times and that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Can I just reject this idea of "power" and that this is all a game with winning and losing? Instead I'll just go with having good times and that.

    I think I'll follow route too ...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    What's not about power?

    The simple fact of matters are that the more attractive a woman is the more influence she has over men. Do you deny this statement?
    Heh, maybe young men who think with their nuts. They tend not to have any power themselves to attract your powergaming women anyway so the whole thing seems a bit irrelevant.

    Put an attractive woman in a random street and have her ask ten men at random for a spare euro, then get a twenty stone woman to do the same. Are you saying they have an equal chance of getting the euro?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Can I just reject this idea of "power" and that this is all a game with winning and losing? Instead I'll just go with having good times and that.

    Cool reject the idea of "gravity" while you're at it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Cool reject the idea of "gravity" while you're at it.

    I would need special powers for that.


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