Prometheus *SPOILERS FROM POST 1538*

Rew wrote: »

Saw it last night, disappointed its not great at all bar some set pieces.

My take opening the opening scene was a suicide. He was left behind for what ever reason, creating life on earth was a ****up and they were going to fix that ****up. I thought I saw something of the star map on the lid of the jar he drank from but could be wrong. Other then that it was like a block of swiss cheese.

Thats my 2c anyway.

Why then would the engineers come to man on different occasions and not destroy the planet then? I would appear that not only did they visit but they communicated with man, hence the cave drawings.

Can't really say a movie with this many posts in hindsight is a bad movie ^ ^.
The avenger's thread didn't go half as long lol. As for why they decided to wipe us out, maybe they just got freaked out by a planet full of midgets.

I would love to know what David said to the engineer, I think a lot rests on that.

PhiloCypher wrote: »

I'm struggling to make head nor tails of your post but from what I can gather you're implying that far from taking place 100's of millions of years ago when life was just crawling out of the oceans you think the prologue takes place a mere 3 millions years ago when the first early hominids appeared would that be correct ? . Assuming it is here's where I have a problem A) Swooping over the this primordial landscape we see absolutely no sign of any land based life, if this is a mere 3 million years ago where is the vegetation? the animals? and The Engineer dissolves into the water and while all life can be traced back to the water if you go back far enough the hominids you are attributing to the engineer evolved/diverged from land based animals 100's of millions of years removed from their watery ancestry . So insofar as i understand that part of your post you are wrong.

Bolded the part I'm struggling with in the hopes of clarification .

yep, hard to say what the film makers were aiming for as they were purposely vague, I thought it was primordial Earth too but some things bothered me; In the same way I think that worm we see on the planet is native to that planet I would image earth would also have native life and as the engineers DNA is meant to be 100% Human all the variance over millions of years would not result in us having 100% matched DNA. Maybe the goo properties were attached to the engineer's DNA and found a host in early primates which then combined until we popped out. Unfortunately the film is a bit of a mess when it comes o logical story telling and so everything we say is just theory. But I dont think they would have the patience to wait millions of years for their designs to bear fruit, I mean look how fast the bio weapons grow.

opinion guy wrote: »

Where are you pulling 3 million years from? nobody said that

I extrapolated it from the following post which if you had read (I did quote it in my own post)in combination with my post would have given you the context with which to understand where I pulled 3 million years from

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

some of you guys seem to be getting it wrong, in the film they said the Engineers created Humans, not all life and then when the crew finds out that the engineers planned to go to earth and destroy us, then they ask the question "why did they change their minds" not the other way around as in they created us why are they changing their minds and now want to destroy us. We would have been wiped out except a bio weapon got loose and killed all the engineers except the one who was in stasis behind a large door So they never finished their misson. Remember the other engineers all had wholes in their chests.

I've underlined the bits that pertain to my theory as to what Chris was trying to say in this post , in it he asserts that the Engineers are only responsible for the human life on this planet nothing else , the earliest hominids we have found are about 3-4 million years old , hence the 3 million years , hope that clears it up for you .

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

yep, hard to say what the film makers were aiming for as they were purposely vague, I thought it was primordial Earth too but some things bothered me; In the same way I think that worm we see on the planet is native to that planet I would image earth would also have native life and as the engineers DNA is meant to be 100% Human all the variance over millions of years would not result in us having 100% matched DNA. Maybe the goo properties were attached to the engineer's DNA and found a host in early primates which then combined until we popped out. Unfortunately the film is a bit of a mess when it comes o logical story telling and so everything we say is just theory. But I dont think they would have the patience to wait millions of years for their designs to bear fruit, I mean look how fast the bio weapons grow.

That actually makes a certain amount of sense to me , while certainly early apes wouldn't have been the only creatures the engineers recombinant dna would have been absorbed(through swimming or drinking it) by perhaps it was the only one it was able to take hold in and run with. I always assumed that Engineer was seeding our planet for benign reasons but perhaps, if your theory holds water and life was already present, he was seeding our planet with the agents of it's destruction ie. US a bioweapon every bit as dangerous to life on earth as a xenomorph .

On the subject of the engineers patience , this is a species whose trap to lead us to our death on Lv-223 is at the very least 35,000(the earliest star chart painting) years in the planning, so I'd put no limit on how patient these guys are , especially if they are traveling at relativistic speeds whereby thousands of years pass for everyone else while they experience relatively few.

I dont think a blockbuster has caused this much confusion since Tim Burtons Ape film!

al28283 wrote: »

piece of **** movie

care to offer to something more?

norrie rugger wrote: »

Why should he expand on his view? The film certainly did not

A discussion forum should have more than comments of "I liked it" or "I thought it was sh*te"- most people on the thread seem to grasp that

comments like the above add nothing to the discussion of a film

Eggy Baby! wrote: »

Actually the shift to Monotheism started way before Jesus turned up but that's beside the point. I agree though that he saw David and realised humanity had started to create life in its image, so he ripped his head off.

And, did anyone else notice the sexual imagery in the scene with the giant facehugger? When the facehugger impregnates him he kinda relaxes on him like a guy who has just finished. Really disturbing.

Have you watched any of the Alien movies? Sticky, oozy substances and stylised oral rape by phallic objects are pretty common to the franchise

I went to see it the other night. Haven't been that disappointed since Shrek 2. Good effects and the 3D element was pretty cool. Terrible plot. Wooden acting. If I'd done my research and seen that the writer was the douchebag who wrote episodes of "Lost" then I could have saved myself a few bob!

tricky D wrote: »

The interaction between her and Janek mentions robot and she then does a sharp turn telling him top be in her room in 10. Then he sings something 'if you can't with the one you want, love the one your with'.

On Steven Still's harmonica...

Mairzydoats wrote: »

If I'd done my research and seen that the writer was the douchebag who wrote episodes of "Lost" then I could have saved myself a few bob!

There were actually 2 writers for Prometheus, Damon Lindelof and some other guy I never heard of. Lindelof came in at Scott's request to re-write the existing script by the other guy. While Scott didn't write anything, he certainly had input into the ideas used in the script.

But at the end of the day this is Ridley Scott's film - the writers delivered his vision of the film and he was obviously satisified with the script so you can blame him too.