DoneDeal now €5 per car ad!

mitchaul · 05-06-2012 02:26PM

mickdw wrote: »

The reduction is pricing for other items is a fair point. I wasnt aware of that. Still, in the times we are in, any business needs to be making themselves more cost efficient and as competitive as possible. Perhaps this is what they are doing, it just seems like a bad move for me as the public perception can be an important factor. I dont know the % breakdown of DD ads in the various sectors so dont know how this move affects DD revenue but it is well known for its car ads and as such this price increase might be more noted than the other reductions.
An opportunity for Buyandsell to hit back perhaps with a slick campaign?

Carzone had the market cornered for a time. Everyone thought the price reasonable and the ad stayed there until sold. They changed the pricing structure and was never the same again.

I agree, things change, other competitiors come in. Carzone lost their way with price points, I've no doubt if they sorted their price for private sellers they'd be back a real choice.
I'll be surprised if buyandsell.ie don't make more of this. Their site is as good as donedeals but a cheaper price and you will sell stuff on it.
My missus sold a Hyundai Accent off it in March.

With adverts.ie going to 3 euro it would be interesting to see one of these big sites offering a free ad for cars and grab the market.

DavidWills · 05-06-2012 02:30PM

It's well an good looking at it from the point of a ordinary punter selling their own car because it's not that expensive. But this is just another step to hurt small business. Think of a used car dealer who is currently struggling as it is using donedeal. He has 20 cars at 3 euro a pop €60 yesterday, now €100 wow. And then they have to bump them up every 2 weeks at €5 OUCH!!!

puppetmaster · 05-06-2012 02:42PM

DavidWills wrote: »

It's well an good looking at it from the point of a ordinary punter selling their own car because it's not that expensive. But this is just another step to hurt small business. Think of a used car dealer who is currently struggling as it is using donedeal. He has 20 cars at 3 euro a pop €60 yesterday, now €100 wow. And then they have to bump them up every 2 weeks at €5 OUCH!!!

Their paying to advertise on the site with the biggest traffic and most buyers in the country.

If it wasnt/isnt worth the money people will move to other sites, For now it is easily worth the money. €5 to advertise a car country wide pretty cheap.

I would imagine the drop to €1 for the smaller gear is to boost traffic to the site, in doing increasing their own profile and making it more worthwhile to pay them a fiver for selling your car.

Messing with pricing structures with sites like this is always dangerous, but it might just work for them if they increase traffic...

DavidWills · 05-06-2012 02:47PM

puppetmaster wrote: »

Their paying to advertise on the site with the biggest traffic and most buyers in the country.

If it wasnt/isnt worth the money people will move to other sites, For now it is easily worth the money. €5 to advertise a car country wide pretty cheap.

I would imagine the drop to €1 for the smaller gear is to boost traffic to the site, in doing increasing their own profile and making it more worthwhile to pay them a fiver for selling your car.

Messing with pricing structures with sites like this is always dangerous, but it might just work for them if they increase traffic...

Well then at least be consistent. Why should someone pay more for their advert than someone else? Have some logic to your business model. All they have done here is risked pissing of 40% of their advertisers

puppetmaster · 05-06-2012 03:06PM

DavidWills wrote: »

Well then at least be consistent. Why should someone pay more for their advert than someone else? Have some logic to your business model. All they have done here is risked pissing of 40% of their advertisers

Wha? why should someone have to pay €2/4 more to sell a car for a few grand than someone selling a charger for a phone for a €5 ? Because its fair maybe.

It will also get more people advertising on the site, (i assume this is the goal)
and in turn get more people to check out the site when their buying anything.
Creating more traffic/customers. Allowing for more sales.

padd b1975 · 05-06-2012 03:07PM

FearDark wrote: »

But on adverts all you're offered is a stick of juicy fruit and a Rover 200 as a p/x on whatever you're selling.

Cash my way.

corktina · 05-06-2012 03:11PM

donedeal works = worth a fiver.

Anan1 · 05-06-2012 03:16PM

DavidWills wrote: »

Well then at least be consistent. Why should someone pay more for their advert than someone else? Have some logic to your business model. All they have done here is risked pissing of 40% of their advertisers

It's very common for businesses to charge different prices for similar, or indeed identical, products. You seem to have the idea that it's your right to dictate donedeal's business model. It's not. You have the right to take your money elsewhere, that's all.

copeyhagen · 05-06-2012 03:32PM

typical ireland...

"whats our most popular ad?"
"cars, by about 85%"
"ok, put the price up 65%"

w4nkers

AMurph1979 · 05-06-2012 03:57PM

The text search box on Done Deal is what I use to find what I am looking for. Hence people have started manipulating this by placing extra words like 'toyota' in an ad for a Nissan.
Why not place your an ad for a Nissan with a detailed description in Electronics. = Car ad for €1.

The way I see it all ads have just got cheaper on DoneDeal, of course this will destroy it for everyone. But in the mean time I'll get cheap advertising.:)

L-M · 05-06-2012 04:03PM

copeyhagen wrote: »

typical ireland...

"whats our most popular ad?"
"cars, by about 85%"
"ok, put the price up 65%"

w4nkers

Typical ireland

"This is very good value compared to every where else.

The company adjusts prices accordingly so the prices are more fair and still considerably cheaper than everywhere else.

****"

:rolleyes:

tinofapples · 05-06-2012 04:14PM

Hi, this is ****** **** from DoneDeal.

I wanted to drop you a note to inform you of an update we’re making to DoneDeal.

A large number of DoneDealers have contacted us about our current pricing system. They felt it was not fair to charge the same to advertise a small or cheaper item like a baby’s cot or a bail of hay, as to advertise expensive things like cars or motorbikes.

So we decided to improve our site and make the pricing more fair. We decided to have three pricing levels:

€1 for ads in 87 sections with a lower price (clothes, baby items, books, etc)
€3 for ads in 58 sections with mid priced items (farming, trailers, pets, etc)
€5 for ads in 9 sections with higher priced stuff (cars, motorbikes, etc)

You can see the full new price list here.

This way, when you want to sell your bicycle or your childs buggy, it doesn’t cost as much as when you want to sell your car!

If you have any questions or comments, please let us know by replying to this email

They are doin us all a favour by reducing prices for smaller listed items

but43r · 05-06-2012 04:25PM

AMurph1979 wrote: »

The text search box on Done Deal is what I use to find what I am looking for. Hence people have started manipulating this by placing extra words like 'toyota' in an ad for a Nissan.
Why not place your an ad for a Nissan with a detailed description in Electronics. = Car ad for €1.

The way I see it all ads have just got cheaper on DoneDeal, of course this will destroy it for everyone. But in the mean time I'll get cheap advertising.:)

Couple of things wrong with your logic:

1. You will loose out on large chunk of people looking for a car as a lot of people will select category before entering search terms (I do that).

2. DoneDeal will probably be monitoring those sections and if they see a car in Electronics I guarantee you, they'll remove it. You'll end up paying 5 euro anyway (and loosing 1 euro trying to be 'smarter than everybody else').

Business is business and they will always do everything to maximise their profits. For every tight c**t that's not willing to spend 5 euro to advertise there car on DoneDeal there will be hundreds of people willing to spend it.

As others have said - spending 5 euro to sell a car that's probably worth 1000's is nothing...

Jammy Donut · 05-06-2012 04:30PM

And it's started, People putting their cars into Vintage&Classic Section (Still €3 for that)

'00 Lincoln
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3433286

'96 Celica
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3450175

'95 Citroen
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3378236

:rolleyes:

I wanna look at cars at least 20 Years Old in that section!

AMurph1979 · 05-06-2012 04:39PM

but43r wrote: »

Couple of things wrong with your logic:

1. You will loose out on large chunk of people looking for a car as a lot of people will select category before entering search terms (I do that).

2. DoneDeal will probably be monitoring those sections and if they see a car in Electronics I guarantee you, they'll remove it. You'll end up paying 5 euro anyway (and loosing 1 euro trying to be 'smarter than everybody else').

Business is business and they will always do everything to maximise their profits. For every tight c**t that's not willing to spend 5 euro to advertise there car on DoneDeal there will be hundreds of people willing to spend it.

As others have said - spending 5 euro to sell a car that's probably worth 1000's is nothing...

Are you saying I'm a tight c**t ?
I'll will try it out and see if it works. They haven't been able to successfully prevent people from adding keywords. Like the others I think it may be the beginning of the end for the greedy Norwegians.

DavidWills · 05-06-2012 04:40PM

puppetmaster wrote: »

Wha? why should someone have to pay €2/4 more to sell a car for a few grand than someone selling a charger for a phone for a €5 ? Because its fair maybe.

It will also get more people advertising on the site, (i assume this is the goal)
and in turn get more people to check out the site when their buying anything.
Creating more traffic/customers. Allowing for more sales.

Why not put up the price of property adverts. Last time I looked houses had a hefty average order value.

It's greed, but thats just my opinion and if you look at donedeal facebook page some of their loyal customers share this opinion

ronaneire · 05-06-2012 04:46PM

Here is my 2 cents. It was €3 an ad beforehand. If you rang from a mobile that was nearer the €4 mark. They have changed the way you pay,

http://imageshack.us/f/155/donedeal.png/

You now put in a mobile number and they text you back a code. At the moment they only have O2 and Vodafone.

Other payment methods also.

I can see some peoples gripes. DD see what gives them the most revenue and up to a time when some other business can do what they are doing people will keep using them.
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jaygile · 05-06-2012 04:47PM

i have a faeeling this is the first of many changes for the site - saw it coming a mile off the second they sold 51% of the company. nearly always bad news for consumers when the big suits get involved

Zonda999 · 05-06-2012 04:47PM

AMurph1979 wrote: »

Are you saying I'm a tight c**t ?
I'll will try it out and see if it works. They haven't been able to successfully prevent people from adding keywords. Like the others I think it may be the beginning of the end for the greedy Norwegians.

I think they're Swedish..

To be fair though, they are advertising on tv on recent weeks, so clearly they are using some of their increased capital to reinvest in the company, rather than just keeping it as profit, which seems to be the conclusion that people are jumping to. TV advertising isn't cheap trust me, it only serves to make the site more popular though, which is surely what everyone who uses it wants? i think they're doing a bit more advertising on radio too, thats definitely sponsoring something, cant remember what

I would agree though that €5 is the upper limit for what it is. I dont agree with the need to 'bump' your ad every 2 weeks. as a buyer, I'll search al over the web for the right product, I'd certainly do the same on DD

dahamsta · 05-06-2012 04:49PM

Jammy Donut wrote: »

And it's started, People putting their cars into Vintage&Classic Section (Still €3 for that)

They've always done that. "Modern classic" syndrome. It's also littered with cars that qualify for vintage tax, but are in reality utter heaps of crap. There was a Ritmo last week, for example, and an actual heap of crap, some 4x4 with more rust than metal.

Caliden · 05-06-2012 05:08PM

When I was selling my old car I used to search for it using the normal search bar.
So I would put in 'Honda integra DC5'
If any ads came up that had all those search terms at the bottom I would report them.
To be fair the donedeal team dealt with them pretty sharpish.

Nowadays they have a decent search function but you still get the odd civic coming up when searching for a 2003-2005 Subaru Impreza with 'STI' in the search bar. No idea how that happens :P

Jammy Donut · 05-06-2012 05:24PM

This is the ****e the need to sort,

20ads a page.... Search for STi and....

Passats/Fiesta/BMWs make up close to 50% of them.

Stinicker · 05-06-2012 05:34PM

Typical rip-off Ireland, wimpy apologists here roll over and say but it is still good value. The DoneDeal is full of dodgy deals and shady characters. I would not buy anything from it and the one time I advertised something on it I had some lad from Nigeria trying to scam me!

shanec1928 · 05-06-2012 05:36PM

Jammy Donut wrote: »

This is the ****e the need to sort,

20ads a page.... Search for STi and....

Passats/Fiesta/BMWs make up close to 50% of them.

what diffrence is whining on an internet forum going to do.. if your so upset about it email them...

AMurph1979 · 05-06-2012 05:43PM

Check out their facebook page, people are going mad. Seems it's the small car dealers' and private guys who sell a car or 2 a year, that are really getting hit with the majority of the additional costs. If you ask me they are the guys who made DoneDeal what it is today, think they would put a bit of effort into looking after them.
It's quite amusing their facebook 'personality' is actually getting annoyed, no more soft touchy feely language here. Looks like DoneDeal are now truly commercial.

Jarren · 05-06-2012 05:45PM

It's still a good value,tried to sell my cars on adverts.ie before and was getting only stupid offers.
With DD had many phone calls/texts/emails inquiring about cars,never had an issue with DD.

As for scammers,they are everywhere so usual rules should apply.

Buyers beware,caveat emptor etc.

I'd pay much more to advertise on DD if needed tbh, they provide me with service that I'd be happy to pay for.

AMurph1979 · 05-06-2012 05:46PM

Zonda999 wrote: »

I think they're Swedish..

To be fair though, they are advertising on tv on recent weeks, so clearly they are using some of their increased capital to reinvest in the company, rather than just keeping it as profit, which seems to be the conclusion that people are jumping to. TV advertising isn't cheap trust me, it only serves to make the site more popular though, which is surely what everyone who uses it wants? i think they're doing a bit more advertising on radio too, thats definitely sponsoring something, cant remember what

I would agree though that €5 is the upper limit for what it is. I dont agree with the need to 'bump' your ad every 2 weeks. as a buyer, I'll search al over the web for the right product, I'd certainly do the same on DD

They were bought out by a Norwegian media group called Schibsted about 6/12 months ago.

sean1141 · 05-06-2012 08:45PM

I think it would be better if the price of the item for sale reflected the price of the add.
I dont see how this add should cost less than a car of the same asking price

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/bicycles/3446533

tuborg_man · 05-06-2012 09:00PM

I put my car on Donedeal and gumtree 2 weeks ago (because gumtree is still free and gumtree had 2 scammers , Had the same scam from donedeal (but only the once)

Had calls from the gumtree ad so it does work (even if the site is a mess)

What annoys me about DD is the need to bump an ad and then pay for it, now I don't mean every day so that the ad is never of the front page but say you get a free bump every week for the 5 euro, then after 2 months another fiver,
I'd be happier with that,

tuborg_man · 05-06-2012 09:02PM

sean1141 wrote: »

I think it would be better if the price of the item for sale reflected the price of the add.
I dont see how this add should cost less than a car of the same asking price

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/bicycles/3446533

They do that in the uk with the autotrader ad's and that turns into a mess, loads of 07 cars for £900 with the first line of the text saying CAR NOT £900, REAL PRICE £12,000,
Get's annoying.

DoneDeal now €5 per car ad!

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