DoneDeal now €5 per car ad!

Jammy Donut

http://help.donedeal.ie/info/advertising-fees

Just got an e-mail from them aswel explaining it :mad: :mad:

Jarren

People will still use them unless something better/cheaper comes up.

Anan1

You think €5 is too much?

Jammy Donut

Anan1 wrote: »

You think €5 is too much?

Considering it was only €3 last night.... Yes I do. It'll cost around €5.50 from a mobile now :mad:

kirving

It might encourage some people to put a bit more effort into advertisements, and a fiver nothing really

Anan1

Jammy Donut wrote: »

Considering it was only €3 last night.... Yes I do. It'll cost around €5.50 from a mobile now :mad:

So advertise elsewhere.

Oral Surgeon

Jammy Donut wrote: »

http://help.donedeal.ie/info/advertising-fees

Just got an e-mail from them aswel explaining it :mad: :mad:

Just add €5 to the asking price of the car if you're that upset about it

FearDark

It's still cheap for what it is... but its a fair old jump in price at the same time. Still though, its the only way to sell a car.

mike65

Carzone charge 30 euro don't they?

Nissan doctor

Jammy Donut wrote: »

Considering it was only €3 last night.... Yes I do. It'll cost around €5.50 from a mobile now :mad:

Jese, I know its a recession but seriously, they are still cheaper, by a huge amount, then any other car sales website and are still the best place, again, by some distance to get your car viewed.

Its a moot complaint IMO.

What do adverts.ie charge?

Jammy Donut

Jesus lads, I know it's a great site and all but to suddenly jump 66% in price without any improvements on the site (Such as removing retards who use search terms)


If they may sort out that ****e, I'd have no trouble paying the extra... BUT charging more for a service which hasn't been improved?

mike65

RoverJames wrote: »

What do adverts.ie charge?

3 - 15 euro depending on the type of ad and its prominence.

..... in demand so they no doubt feel its the way to go.

FearDark

RoverJames wrote: »

What do adverts.ie charge?

But on adverts all you're offered is a stick of juicy fruit and a Rover 200 as a p/x on whatever you're selling.

ShadowHearth

FearDark wrote: »

But on adverts all you're offered is a stick of juicy fruit and a Rover 200 as a p/x on whatever you're selling.

Anything in my ads?

Idbatterim

But on adverts all you're offered is a stick of juicy fruit and a Rover 200 as a p/x on whatever you're selling.

which is better than what you would be offered on donedeal in my experience!

FearDark

FearDark wrote: »

But on adverts all you're offered is a stick of juicy fruit and a Rover 200 as a p/x on whatever you're selling.

indeed, which is why donedeal can up the price, I thought adverts is about 3 per car add too but wasn't sure.

mickdw

Could be the beginning of the end for them. There is always someone else to take over if you get greedy. Sure its cheaper than others but thats a major jump in price and given the format, its not directly comparable with normal car listing sites - your ad falls down the order in quick time and so becomes less visible.
As someone said above, with the price increase, you would like to see major improvement in the search facility. If I search for a M5, I dont want to look at a page of bangers.

Caliden

It might mean less crap ads and pisstakes now that it costs the price of a pint.

Jammy Donut

mickdw wrote: »

Could be the beginning of the end for them. There is always someone else to take over if you get greedy. Sure its cheaper than others but thats a major jump in price and given the format, its not directly comparable with normal car listing sites - your ad falls down the order in quick time and so becomes less visible.
As someone said above, with the price increase, you would like to see major improvement in the search facility. If I search for a M5, I dont want to look at a page of bangers.

Someone who sees my point


Actually just searched M5 in motors and there ain't one proper M5, All ads range from Diesel Kitted M5s lad to a Quad, Civic Type R and even a 99 Corolla thrown in :rolleyes:

puppetmaster

Jammy Donut wrote: »

Someone who sees my point


Actually just searched M5 in motors and there ain't one proper M5, All ads range from Diesel Kitted M5s lad to a Quad, Civic Type R and even a 99 Corolla thrown in :rolleyes:

Its only cars bikes , caravans and larger vehicles that have raised in price, so in comparison to others just doing cars their pretty on the money cost wise.

They have also Dropped the price of advertising in near 90 sections to €1
Cant argue with that, I have sold a couple of cars of it and plenty of other stuff, regardless of its issues (of which there are a few) , Imho Its the only site worth advertising on if you actually want to sell something.

Dirkster

Well I think they're getting greedy uneccessarily. Has anyone ever done the approximate maths for what donedeal.ie is making on cars alone? It's raking it in and all they're doing is running a website.

mickdw

The reduction is pricing for other items is a fair point. I wasnt aware of that. Still, in the times we are in, any business needs to be making themselves more cost efficient and as competitive as possible. Perhaps this is what they are doing, it just seems like a bad move for me as the public perception can be an important factor. I dont know the % breakdown of DD ads in the various sectors so dont know how this move affects DD revenue but it is well known for its car ads and as such this price increase might be more noted than the other reductions.
An opportunity for Buyandsell to hit back perhaps with a slick campaign?

Carzone had the market cornered for a time. Everyone thought the price reasonable and the ad stayed there until sold. They changed the pricing structure and was never the same again.

FGR

Jammy Donut wrote: »

(Such as removing retards who use search terms)

This. It's very, very annoying. What do they think it will do?

Oh. I've searched for a 2011 BMW but I think I'll buy this 1996 Civic instead.

ShadowHearth

Well as much as I LOVE to bitch, I can't here. 5eu is still small fee to advertise in the biggest and only place where you can buy or sell car.
Carzone and autotrader is just an AD graveyard. I don't even bother anymore after calling to ask about car and just to be told that cara was sold month ago...

Zonda999

I was about to have a rant about this being a 66% rise in price(Assuming the c ost of all ads had gone up to €5) but seeing that they've dropped the prices on other things to just €1, it starts to make a bit of sense. If you're selling a car worth thousands, €5 isn't too bad for such a popular site IMHO.

They're doing a small bit of advertising on the television as well so I can only see donedeal getting more popular.

Not so long ago, practically the only place to sell a car was carzone(Which used be about €30) but donedeal changed that.

cdublin

puppetmaster wrote: »

Its only cars bikes , caravans and larger vehicles that have raised in price, so in comparison to others just doing cars their pretty on the money cost wise.

They have also Dropped the price of advertising in near 90 sections to €1
Cant argue with that, I have sold a couple of cars of it and plenty of other stuff, regardless of its issues (of which there are a few) , Imho Its the only site worth advertising on if you actually want to sell something.

Plenty of other sites where you will sell your stuff too.

You will sell you car on carzone.ie
You will sell stuff on adverts.ie and buyandsell.ie

Funnily enough, with buyandsell looking like donedeal they must be seeing an opportunity here.

puppetmaster

Dirkster wrote: »

Well I think they're getting greedy uneccessarily. Has anyone ever done the approximate maths for what donedeal.ie is making on cars alone? It's raking it in and all they're doing is running a website.

It depends which you consider more greedy though, charging two more Euro on some of your advertisments, and 2 euro less on others. Still being cheaper that most your viable competition.

Or is it greedier for someone not to want to spend a fiver to sell their car.... ?

cdublin wrote: »

Plenty of other sites where you will sell your stuff too.

You will sell you car on carzone.ie
You will sell stuff on adverts.ie and buyandsell.ie

Funnily enough, with buyandsell looking like donedeal they must be seeing an opportunity here.

I advertise the same things on Adverts, Buyandsell , Donedeal, Gumtree and a couple of others. Donedeal sells about 6 or 7 times more than the rest of those sites Combined (if not more).. so there's no comparison for me.

Anan1

Lads, this is really simple. If you feel that another site offers better value for money then use them instead. If you feel that donedeal still offers the best value then pay the €5. The fact that it was €3 yesterday is entirely irrelevant.

Zonda999

Yeah, put it this way, this is bad news for some one trying to sell their €600 car, but very good news for someone trying to sell their €600 iPhone

For most people selling a car worth, say, several thousand euro, this is just the cost of a coffee down your local garage. Donedeal has been the only place to sell cars for a couple of years now, that increased popularity will inevitably lead to price increases obviously, I think the new pricing structure makes perfect sense.

mitchaul

mickdw wrote: »

The reduction is pricing for other items is a fair point. I wasnt aware of that. Still, in the times we are in, any business needs to be making themselves more cost efficient and as competitive as possible. Perhaps this is what they are doing, it just seems like a bad move for me as the public perception can be an important factor. I dont know the % breakdown of DD ads in the various sectors so dont know how this move affects DD revenue but it is well known for its car ads and as such this price increase might be more noted than the other reductions.
An opportunity for Buyandsell to hit back perhaps with a slick campaign?

Carzone had the market cornered for a time. Everyone thought the price reasonable and the ad stayed there until sold. They changed the pricing structure and was never the same again.

I agree, things change, other competitiors come in. Carzone lost their way with price points, I've no doubt if they sorted their price for private sellers they'd be back a real choice.
I'll be surprised if buyandsell.ie don't make more of this. Their site is as good as donedeals but a cheaper price and you will sell stuff on it.
My missus sold a Hyundai Accent off it in March.

With adverts.ie going to 3 euro it would be interesting to see one of these big sites offering a free ad for cars and grab the market.

DavidWills

It's well an good looking at it from the point of a ordinary punter selling their own car because it's not that expensive. But this is just another step to hurt small business. Think of a used car dealer who is currently struggling as it is using donedeal. He has 20 cars at 3 euro a pop €60 yesterday, now €100 wow. And then they have to bump them up every 2 weeks at €5 OUCH!!!

puppetmaster

DavidWills wrote: »

It's well an good looking at it from the point of a ordinary punter selling their own car because it's not that expensive. But this is just another step to hurt small business. Think of a used car dealer who is currently struggling as it is using donedeal. He has 20 cars at 3 euro a pop €60 yesterday, now €100 wow. And then they have to bump them up every 2 weeks at €5 OUCH!!!

Their paying to advertise on the site with the biggest traffic and most buyers in the country.

If it wasnt/isnt worth the money people will move to other sites, For now it is easily worth the money. €5 to advertise a car country wide pretty cheap.

I would imagine the drop to €1 for the smaller gear is to boost traffic to the site, in doing increasing their own profile and making it more worthwhile to pay them a fiver for selling your car.

Messing with pricing structures with sites like this is always dangerous, but it might just work for them if they increase traffic...

DavidWills

puppetmaster wrote: »

Their paying to advertise on the site with the biggest traffic and most buyers in the country.

If it wasnt/isnt worth the money people will move to other sites, For now it is easily worth the money. €5 to advertise a car country wide pretty cheap.

I would imagine the drop to €1 for the smaller gear is to boost traffic to the site, in doing increasing their own profile and making it more worthwhile to pay them a fiver for selling your car.

Messing with pricing structures with sites like this is always dangerous, but it might just work for them if they increase traffic...

Well then at least be consistent. Why should someone pay more for their advert than someone else? Have some logic to your business model. All they have done here is risked pissing of 40% of their advertisers

puppetmaster

DavidWills wrote: »

Well then at least be consistent. Why should someone pay more for their advert than someone else? Have some logic to your business model. All they have done here is risked pissing of 40% of their advertisers

Wha? why should someone have to pay €2/4 more to sell a car for a few grand than someone selling a charger for a phone for a €5 ? Because its fair maybe.

It will also get more people advertising on the site, (i assume this is the goal)
and in turn get more people to check out the site when their buying anything.
Creating more traffic/customers. Allowing for more sales.

padd b1975

FearDark wrote: »

But on adverts all you're offered is a stick of juicy fruit and a Rover 200 as a p/x on whatever you're selling.

Cash my way.

corktina

donedeal works = worth a fiver.

Anan1

DavidWills wrote: »

Well then at least be consistent. Why should someone pay more for their advert than someone else? Have some logic to your business model. All they have done here is risked pissing of 40% of their advertisers

It's very common for businesses to charge different prices for similar, or indeed identical, products. You seem to have the idea that it's your right to dictate donedeal's business model. It's not. You have the right to take your money elsewhere, that's all.

copeyhagen

typical ireland...

"whats our most popular ad?"
"cars, by about 85%"
"ok, put the price up 65%"

w4nkers

AMurph1979

The text search box on Done Deal is what I use to find what I am looking for. Hence people have started manipulating this by placing extra words like 'toyota' in an ad for a Nissan.
Why not place your an ad for a Nissan with a detailed description in Electronics. = Car ad for €1.

The way I see it all ads have just got cheaper on DoneDeal, of course this will destroy it for everyone. But in the mean time I'll get cheap advertising.:)

L-M

copeyhagen wrote: »

typical ireland...

"whats our most popular ad?"
"cars, by about 85%"
"ok, put the price up 65%"

w4nkers

Typical ireland

"This is very good value compared to every where else.

The company adjusts prices accordingly so the prices are more fair and still considerably cheaper than everywhere else.

****"

:rolleyes:

tinofapples

Hi, this is ****** **** from DoneDeal.

I wanted to drop you a note to inform you of an update we’re making to DoneDeal.

A large number of DoneDealers have contacted us about our current pricing system. They felt it was not fair to charge the same to advertise a small or cheaper item like a baby’s cot or a bail of hay, as to advertise expensive things like cars or motorbikes.

So we decided to improve our site and make the pricing more fair. We decided to have three pricing levels:

€1 for ads in 87 sections with a lower price (clothes, baby items, books, etc)
€3 for ads in 58 sections with mid priced items (farming, trailers, pets, etc)
€5 for ads in 9 sections with higher priced stuff (cars, motorbikes, etc)

You can see the full new price list here.

This way, when you want to sell your bicycle or your childs buggy, it doesn’t cost as much as when you want to sell your car!

If you have any questions or comments, please let us know by replying to this email

They are doin us all a favour by reducing prices for smaller listed items

but43r

AMurph1979 wrote: »

The text search box on Done Deal is what I use to find what I am looking for. Hence people have started manipulating this by placing extra words like 'toyota' in an ad for a Nissan.
Why not place your an ad for a Nissan with a detailed description in Electronics. = Car ad for €1.

The way I see it all ads have just got cheaper on DoneDeal, of course this will destroy it for everyone. But in the mean time I'll get cheap advertising.:)

Couple of things wrong with your logic:

1. You will loose out on large chunk of people looking for a car as a lot of people will select category before entering search terms (I do that).

2. DoneDeal will probably be monitoring those sections and if they see a car in Electronics I guarantee you, they'll remove it. You'll end up paying 5 euro anyway (and loosing 1 euro trying to be 'smarter than everybody else').

Business is business and they will always do everything to maximise their profits. For every tight c**t that's not willing to spend 5 euro to advertise there car on DoneDeal there will be hundreds of people willing to spend it.

As others have said - spending 5 euro to sell a car that's probably worth 1000's is nothing...

Jammy Donut

And it's started, People putting their cars into Vintage&Classic Section (Still €3 for that)


'00 Lincoln
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3433286

'96 Celica
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3450175

'95 Citroen
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3378236


:rolleyes:


I wanna look at cars at least 20 Years Old in that section!

AMurph1979

but43r wrote: »

Couple of things wrong with your logic:

1. You will loose out on large chunk of people looking for a car as a lot of people will select category before entering search terms (I do that).

2. DoneDeal will probably be monitoring those sections and if they see a car in Electronics I guarantee you, they'll remove it. You'll end up paying 5 euro anyway (and loosing 1 euro trying to be 'smarter than everybody else').

Business is business and they will always do everything to maximise their profits. For every tight c**t that's not willing to spend 5 euro to advertise there car on DoneDeal there will be hundreds of people willing to spend it.

As others have said - spending 5 euro to sell a car that's probably worth 1000's is nothing...

Are you saying I'm a tight c**t ?
I'll will try it out and see if it works. They haven't been able to successfully prevent people from adding keywords. Like the others I think it may be the beginning of the end for the greedy Norwegians.

DavidWills

puppetmaster wrote: »

Wha? why should someone have to pay €2/4 more to sell a car for a few grand than someone selling a charger for a phone for a €5 ? Because its fair maybe.

It will also get more people advertising on the site, (i assume this is the goal)
and in turn get more people to check out the site when their buying anything.
Creating more traffic/customers. Allowing for more sales.

Why not put up the price of property adverts. Last time I looked houses had a hefty average order value.

It's greed, but thats just my opinion and if you look at donedeal facebook page some of their loyal customers share this opinion

ronaneire

Here is my 2 cents. It was €3 an ad beforehand. If you rang from a mobile that was nearer the €4 mark. They have changed the way you pay,

http://imageshack.us/f/155/donedeal.png/

You now put in a mobile number and they text you back a code. At the moment they only have O2 and Vodafone.

Other payment methods also.

I can see some peoples gripes. DD see what gives them the most revenue and up to a time when some other business can do what they are doing people will keep using them.

jaygile

i have a faeeling this is the first of many changes for the site - saw it coming a mile off the second they sold 51% of the company. nearly always bad news for consumers when the big suits get involved

Zonda999

AMurph1979 wrote: »

Are you saying I'm a tight c**t ?
I'll will try it out and see if it works. They haven't been able to successfully prevent people from adding keywords. Like the others I think it may be the beginning of the end for the greedy Norwegians.

I think they're Swedish..

To be fair though, they are advertising on tv on recent weeks, so clearly they are using some of their increased capital to reinvest in the company, rather than just keeping it as profit, which seems to be the conclusion that people are jumping to. TV advertising isn't cheap trust me, it only serves to make the site more popular though, which is surely what everyone who uses it wants? i think they're doing a bit more advertising on radio too, thats definitely sponsoring something, cant remember what

I would agree though that €5 is the upper limit for what it is. I dont agree with the need to 'bump' your ad every 2 weeks. as a buyer, I'll search al over the web for the right product, I'd certainly do the same on DD

dahamsta

Jammy Donut wrote: »

And it's started, People putting their cars into Vintage&Classic Section (Still €3 for that)

They've always done that. "Modern classic" syndrome. It's also littered with cars that qualify for vintage tax, but are in reality utter heaps of crap. There was a Ritmo last week, for example, and an actual heap of crap, some 4x4 with more rust than metal.