Season3 Information: Warning contains future character bios [See Mod Note post#1]

DL Saint · 29-05-2012 11:44PM #1

*Mod Note* Guys this thread is fine to stand but please be aware that non-book readers might stumble in here, so with that in mind try not to spoil future events and use tags please, if it's a case where you feel you would like to discuss future events in season 3 and how they might pan out on screen with the knowledge of the books, I think maybe a general season 3 book readers thread might not be a bad idea? I'll edit the title to add more warning maybe too.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2012/05/29/game-of-thrones-new-season-3-characters-revealed

With production set to resume this summer, Entertainment Weekly have a list of characters from the books slated to appear in Season 3. Executive Producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have made it clear in the past that due to how jam-packed the novels are, they will not necessarily be doing exact book-by-book adaptations as much as pulling different elements at different times. This includes a couple of characters on the list below, who fans of the books know were introduced in the second novel, “A Clash of Kings,” but didn’t make it into the second season.

Benioff tells EW, “[Jojen and Meera Reed] haven’t been written out. It’s important to point out that that we have the largest cast on television right now. We introduced dozens of new characters in season two. If you hurl 300 characters at an audience, the story collapses under the weight of too many faces, too many names, and too many subplots. We need to be just as mindful of the audience members who have never read the books as we are of the readers; the series will fail if we only appeal to those who already know the characters. So we try to be parsimonious about how many new roles we introduce to the story and when we introduce them.”

While the showrunners stress there will be more beyond this, characters certain to show up in Season 3 include:

Mance Rayder: Former Night’s Watch member turned the Wildling “King Beyond the Wall.

Daario Naharis: Captain of the mercenary group, Stormcrows.

Jojen Reed; Meera Reed: A teenage brother and sister with connections to the Starks.

Edmure Tully: Catelyn Stark’s brother.

Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish): Catelyn Stark’s uncle.

Selyse Baratheon: Stannis Baratheon’s wife.

Shireen Baratheon: Stannis’ daughter.

Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns): Margaery Tyrell’s grandmother.

Beric Dondarrion: Leader of the guerrilla group Brotherhood Without Banners. [It's been pointed out in the comments that we actually did see Beric once in Season 1, played by David Michael Scott. It's not clear yet if Scott will reprise the role in Season 3 or a different actor will play the character.]

Thoros of Myr: A red priest.

Tormund Giantsbane: A Wildling raider.

calex71 · 30-05-2012 12:52AM

People who haven't read the books will literally pee themselves if season 3 is half as good as the book, the words "you ain't seen nothing yet" jump to mind

There is just so much to get through but I can think of changes and parts to streamline for sure but if it's split in 2 it will be 2 years from now by the time we see the parts I want to see on screen,

I'd love to see them to do it in one 20 episode run or with a shorter break between airings but I can't see it happening

chupacabra · 30-05-2012 08:49AM

No Ramsay on this list makes me think that he might make his appearance in the season finale but with zero casting news on him I doubt he will appear. Cant wait to see Beric Dondarrion.

Mr Freeze · 30-05-2012 09:36AM

Tormund Giantsbane to be cast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank fup for that, my favorite wilding.

TwoShedsJackson · 30-05-2012 09:41AM

chupacabra wrote: »

No Ramsay on this list makes me think that he might make his appearance in the season finale but with zero casting news on him I doubt he will appear. Cant wait to see Beric Dondarrion.

He appeared (briefly) in Season 1, is he being recast or is it the same guy?

Johnny Bitte · 30-05-2012 10:00AM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

He appeared (briefly) in Season 1, is he being recast or is it the same guy?

When did he show up in season 1?

Mr Freeze · 30-05-2012 10:05AM

Johnny Bitte wrote: »

When did he show up in season 1?

Upon hearing of the atrocities committed by Ser Gregor Clegane, Lord Eddard Stark, acting as the Hand of the King, orders Lord Beric to take a hundred men, ride to Ser Gregor's keep and execute him for treason and murder. Beric willingly agrees to the task

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Beric_Dondarrion

Unless you are referring to Ramsay, who was not in season 1, but may make an appearance in the next episode hopefully.

Tzar Chasm · 30-05-2012 07:14PM

Yaaaaaaay the frogeaters arer going north

I hope they cast someone Hawt as Meeera.

I'm still expecting The Bastard Lord Snow Bolton to ride in and clobber Theon in the finale of Season 2.

Otherwise how will the writers resolve that rather critical element of the story?

I'm trying to remember which book did the action in Dorne start?

And Dario, well the Ladies will need some more eyecandy and he is a rather cool character

titan18 · 30-05-2012 08:18PM

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Yaaaaaaay the frogeaters arer going north
I hope they cast someone Hawt as Meeera.

I'm still expecting The Bastard Lord Snow Bolton to ride in and clobber Theon in the finale of Season 2.
Otherwise how will the writers resolve that rather critical element of the story?

I'm trying to remember which book did the action in Dorne start?

And Dario, well the Ladies will need some more eyecandy and he is a rather cool character

Dorne wasn't until book 4. I presume Ramsay will be in, it does say if your character doesn't appear here, that doesn't mean he has be cut

Mr Freeze · 30-05-2012 08:32PM

titan18 wrote: »

Dorne wasn't until book 4. I presume Ramsay will be in, it does say if your character doesn't appear here, that doesn't mean he has be cut

But some Martells turn up in the 2nd half of Book 3.

30-05-2012 09:35PM

Mance Rayder: Former Night’s Watch member turned the Wildling “King Beyond the Wall.

Daario Naharis: Captain of the mercenary group, Stormcrows.

Jojen Reed; Meera Reed: A teenage brother and sister with connections to the Starks.

Can't wait!

Sleepy · 30-05-2012 09:41PM

Tzar Chasm, maybe spoiler tag your first and third lines? Character names are one thing, details of how they influence current story lines is another, imho.

Tzar Chasm · 30-05-2012 09:57PM

Spoilers added

so Dorne will be Season 4 then, I wonder where they will film that?

My guess is that being as HBO are American the handiest option would be Mexico but what sort of accent and styling cues, the way Sunspear is described I picture a very Mediterainian type herritage

titan18 · 30-05-2012 10:34PM

Mr Freeze wrote: »

But some Martells turn up in the 2nd half of Book 3.

Aye,Oberyn does, but the Dorne plotline with Arianne, Arys, Myrcella, Darkstar, Areo Hotah doesn't kick off until book 4. Looking forward to seeing Hotah and Darkstar

Sleepy · 30-05-2012 10:54PM

Since filming is based in Europe, I'd imagine Dorne would be filmed in Spain, Turkey or Morocco.

fitz · 30-05-2012 11:20PM

Sleepy wrote: »

Since filming is based in Europe, I'd imagine Dorne would be filmed in Spain, Turkey or Morocco.

Or another part of Malta, given the Dany stuff gets filmed there

fitz · 30-05-2012 11:23PM

titan18 wrote: »

Mr Freeze wrote: »

But some Martells turn up in the 2nd half of Book 3.

Aye,Oberyn does, but the Dorne plotline with Arianne, Arys, Myrcella, Darkstar, Areo Hotah doesn't kick off until book 4. Looking forward to seeing Hotah and Darkstar

That's a plot line I can see getting trimmed tbh.

Sleepy · 30-05-2012 11:28PM

Having been there, I think the

moorish influence on Malta's architecture it should work perfectly for Dorne.

Tzar Chasm · 30-05-2012 11:56PM

Well Malta would make sense if they are already filming Dany's scenes there.

Another thing I've seen on winteriscoming is that Vago Hoth may have been cast but without a lisp, this is a change thats not driven by budget and would annoy me cos I really want to hear him shout Thaaaaphirrrrres, and te lisp gives the character a certain sleazeynes

titan18 · 31-05-2012 12:29AM

fitz wrote: »

That's a plot line I can see getting trimmed tbh.

Don't know about that, considering Dance with Dragons and Winds of Winter spoilers ahead

Dorne becomes really relevant when Aegon and Connigton land, and apparently they take Storms End, and Arianne is sent to them, so we'll need an introduction to her. Along with Quentyn going to Danarys which has to be shown, Dorne become really important later. Considering, it's Myrcella, Oberyn has to be introduced and sending Cleganes head back, I can't see Dorne being cut. I imagine the Arianne - Arys stuff gets cut, but they have to show Arianne running off and trying to place Myrcella on the thrown, along with introducting Doran etc

Also, considering season 3 seems to be split into two seasons, or at least over a season and merging with the start of the 4th and 5th books, I can see them taking about 4-5 seasons to cover the next 3 books and the start of the Winds of Winter. Should be plenty of time to cover everything considering the amount of travelling details in the 4th and 5th books

calex71 · 31-05-2012 01:25AM

To be fair there is a lot of fat to trim from

Book 4, out of all of the books, here is the place to take the butchers clever to, and shorten it into a 2 or 3 episodes

And I really hope they do exactly that

titan18 · 31-05-2012 02:30AM

calex71 wrote: »

To be fair there is a lot of fat to trim from
Book 4, out of all of the books, here is the place to take the butchers clever to, and shorten it into a 2 or 3 episodes

And I really hope they do exactly that

Aye, it's a load of nothing happening for ages, which is why I can't see Dorne being cut too much, and book 4 and 5 will probably work together over a season to half to two seasons I'd say

Sleepy · 31-05-2012 08:31PM

I'm guessing we'll see

a lot of Dany's story condensed along with a good chunk of the Iron Isles stuff and Brienne's chapters will no doubt be cut to ribbons

5starpool · 31-05-2012 09:33PM

Ya, book 4 and 5 could nearly be condensed into 1 season or else it will be too boring for the tv audience I reckon. It probably won't be condensed though.

Tzar Chasm · 31-05-2012 09:35PM

anyone want to start a bit of random speculation on the casting side of things

I's like to see the bloke who played desmond in Lost as the Red viper

any suggestions for Mance Rayder or the Reeds

what role could John Simm be good in

beardedmaster · 31-05-2012 10:04PM

Maggie Smith - Olenna, Queen of Thorns.

titan18 · 31-05-2012 11:49PM

Oberyn - if in season 3, I think Cliff Simon(Stargate SG-1) looks like what I imagined Oberyn as. Other than that Oded Fehr.

Ben Kingsley as Doran (doubt it'd happen, but it would be a good choice)

Again wont happen but Jeremy Irons is how I always saw The Blackfish.

James Purefoy as Mance perhaps.

Apparently, this guy has auditioned, not sure what role, but it has to be Tormund

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kristofer+Hivju+Premiere+Universal+Pictures+gLBiWcMISKQl.jpg

Tzar Chasm · 01-06-2012 12:25AM

2 excellent suggestions for the Viper

I had mance as older in my head

but that has to be Giantsbane

Sleepy · 01-06-2012 09:36AM

Tidy him up just a little and he could make an excellent Blackfish either - all the auburn haired Tully's and Brynden is definitely something of a wild card...

Would love to see Maggie Smyth or Dame Judi as Olenna.

Doran's a relatively hard one to cast.

TBH, casting is something I've had very little complaint about in the show so far, Cersei's the only role I'm unconvinced about the casting of... strange to say it bu Lena Headey just isn't beautiful enough to be Cersei.

Mr Freeze · 01-06-2012 10:01AM

titan18 wrote: »

Apparently, this guy has auditioned, not sure what role, but it has to be Tormund

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kristofer+Hivju+Premiere+Universal+Pictures+gLBiWcMISKQl.jpg

Ok that would fella is definitely how I pictured Tormund, except not with red hair :pac:, but dye that black or grey, what ever Tormunds is, and he'd definitely look the part.

Better start practicing his "Har's!" in the mirror.

Mr Freeze · 01-06-2012 10:06AM

Sleepy wrote: »

TBH, casting is something I've had very little complaint about in the show so far, Cersei's the only role I'm unconvinced about the casting of... strange to say it bu Lena Headey just isn't beautiful enough to be Cersei.

Well I think she is doing a great job as Cersei. As for not beautiful enough, you got real high standards ser!

Only messing, I see where you are coming from, google Lena Headey and she looks class dressed normally, but dress her up as Cersei, its hard to see how good looking she is, maybe because its hard to see past how big of a b***h Cersei is though, all we can see if the ugliness of her character.

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