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Bilderberg 2012 list.

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  • #2
    Jonny7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    This time of year again not sure if this list is accurate but no doubt we should no doubt see some familiar faces.

    Bilderberg is where the globalist elite crime syndicate all gather together in secret to discuss how to indoctrinate and control the masses to assist in sorting out the worlds problems.

    http://thetruthisnow.com/headlines/exclusive-bilderberg-2012-list-of-participants-revealed/

    http://www.theglobalistreport.com/bilderberg-group-meeting-2012/

    Well they've been around since the 1950's. Human rights, freedom and equality have all improved since..

    so obviously their indoctrination and controlling methods aren't really working so well.


  • #3
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Well they've been around since the 1950's. Human rights, freedom and equality have all improved since..

    so obviously their indoctrination and controlling methods aren't really working so well.

    You, my son, would want to take your head out of your arse.


  • #4
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    RichieC wrote: »
    You, my son, would want to take your head out of your arse.

    And yet, he's not wrong.

    The 50's were terrible.


  • #5
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Well they've been around since the 1950's. Human rights, freedom and equality have all improved since..

    so obviously their indoctrination and controlling methods aren't really working so well.

    freedom ???? LOL. A Picture says a 1000 words, :)

    Zen Gardener writes a good satire about these secret meetings and addresses some of its agendas, nothing new of course including the Gates of Hell and its blueprint to enslave the masses.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2178/468/The_Illuminati_Pledge_of_Allegiance.html


  • #6
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    hooradiation wrote: »
    And yet, he's not wrong.

    The 50's were terrible.

    It's all just smoke and mirrors. The hand around our necks only tightens while apologists like jonny work overtime to keep the illusion.


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  • #7
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    RichieC wrote: »
    It's all just smoke and mirrors. The hand around our necks only tightens while apologists like jonny work overtime to keep the illusion.

    Well, that's certainly poetic.
    Not sure if it's true.


  • #8
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    hooradiation wrote: »
    Well, that's certainly poetic.
    Not sure if it's true.

    I've no doubt it's true, for all of our history the elites and rich have been authoritarian. In the west, they have made a science of controlling populations without being overtly authoritarian.


  • #9
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    freedom ???? LOL. A Picture says a 1000 words, :)

    The whole "a picture says a 1000 words" thing doesn't really work if it's a bloody obvious photoshop ad.

    If you insist on linking images, can you please make them real ones, and not a complete and utter waste of time.

    @richie
    Human rights in the Western world are far far far better than what they were in the 1950's. This is a fact.
    There are still hundreds of things wrong with the western world, but our rights are much better than what they once were.

    Don't even try arguing it.


  • #10
    Jonny7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    freedom ???? LOL. A Picture says a 1000 words, :)

    Zen Gardener writes a good satire about these secret meetings and addresses some of its agendas, nothing new of course including the Gates of Hell and its blueprint to enslave the masses.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2178/468/The_Illuminati_Pledge_of_Allegiance.html

    Yeah but Mao's China and Stalin's Russia were far closer to "enslaving the masses" in the 50's than either are today.

    RTTH have a read about the Stasi, up to 1 in 8 people in East Germany was an agent or connected to the Stasi - that's not even a conspiracy, that's fact, that's what happened, it really was "1984"

    So the communists of 60-odd years ago make this Bilderberg group look like amateurs.


  • #11
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    "that's not even a conspiracy"

    :rolleyes:


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  • #12
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    The whole "a picture says a 1000 words" thing doesn't really work if it's a bloody obvious photoshop ad.

    If you insist on linking images, can you please make them real ones, and not a complete and utter waste of time.

    @richie
    Human rights in the Western world are far far far better than what they were in the 1950's. This is a fact.
    There are still hundreds of things wrong with the western world, but our rights are much better than what they once were.

    Don't even try arguing it.

    "You, my son, would also want to take your head out of your arse".

    Do you even have a mobile phone? Are you aware that every text message, email, and site you browse is held under EU data reyention laws and shared with the US under so called fight terrorism bills.

    Here is one from a newspaper and this is 4 years ago which is old news when it comes to this topic.

    How Big Brother watches your every move

    "In our ever-growing surveillance society, the average Briton is being recorded 3,000 times a week. Richard Gray reports".

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2571041/How-Big-Brother-watches-your-every-move.html

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    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Yeah but Mao's China and Stalin's Russia were far closer to "enslaving the masses" in the 50's than either are today.

    RTTH have a read about the Stasi, up to 1 in 8 people in East Germany was an agent or connected to the Stasi - that's not even a conspiracy, that's fact, that's what happened, it really was "1984"

    So the communists of 60-odd years ago make this Bilderberg group look like amateurs.
    "You, my son, would also too want to take your head out of your arse".

    1994 is a workshop manual for today's elite, have you even read the book or watched the movie?

    You are staring straight at a two way TV right now that is recording every you do. The EU and India are ready to e_tag millions of its citizens with smart cards, these are far wore than anything Hitler or Stalin ever came up with. They can hold invisible information, they can be read through clothes, they can be read without your knowledge from a distance through electronic door portals or hand held scanners,

    This 5 year old video will give you a fair insight to what's in store for us in the guise of the RFID EU identity card / Bill Gates global vaccination ID or what ever else these guys at this Bilderberg 2012 meeting want to guise it as. :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haFs6_1U3F8


  • #13
    Channel Zero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Channel Zero


    The media silence about this will be deafening. As usual.

    Check out the laughable teeny tiny wiki page here.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group
    One of my favourite bits on it is this:

    In his 1980 essay The Bilderberg and the West, researcher Peter Thompson argues that the Bilderberg group is a meeting ground for top executives from the world’s leading multinational corporations and top national political figures to consider jointly the immediate and long-term problems facing the West.

    :pac:
    It should read,

    the Bilderberg group is a meeting ground for top executives from the world’s leading multinational corporations and top national political figures to consider jointly the immediate and long-term problems facing the rich.


  • #14
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    RichieC wrote: »
    I've no doubt it's true, for all of our history the elites and rich have been authoritarian. In the west, they have made a science of controlling populations without being overtly authoritarian.

    And yet, no evidence is offered.
    I will maintain my skepticism.


  • #15
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    hooradiation wrote: »
    And yet, no evidence is offered.
    I will maintain my skepticism.

    That's false scepticism, there is well enough evidence mounting since the end of WW2 to show more and more centralised control of our societies, increasing use of propaganda and false news to manufacture public opinion.

    Operation northwoods, had that leaked in a free society there would have been revolution! especially after 9/11 happened to use half of the ideas put forward in it. Rice stated "we never imagined someone would use planes to crash into buildings" - a dam lie, it was in the operation northwood document.

    How many people have to die before you grace us with some of this scepticism? South America during the cold war, Vietnam, Iraq?

    It's well known now that the gulf of tonkin incident that lead to the Vietnam war was a pack of lies. nearly 60k Americans sent to their deaths because of it. happy days for the elite who made bombs, though! 7 million tonnes of bombs!

    The stories from an innocent little girl in tears telling us how Sadams army were throwing babies out of incubators to die on the floor, an other pack of lies to sell another war.

    Then the nonsense leading up to the second Gulf war! and the level of narrative control by the US government during it..

    How about Iran contra scandal? not a single day in prison spent by anyone involved. jokingly one guy who in protest stole a street sign named after one of the defendants is said to be the only man to do time for that scandal.

    And now we're inundated day after day with more lies about Iran, and all to convince us we need to spend more money we don't have to basically start WW3.

    We are not free, If we were we'd have done something about these shysters by now. Instead they receive life time achievement presidential medals.

    Over here we get saddled with a generation of debt so that a bunch of bankers can remain in their silken undies, and all while poverty in this country begins to creep back. Oh everyone is "angry" - but it still happens.

    free my hole.


  • #16
    Barlett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Barlett


    I wouldn't read too much into that list...if it was real surely Paul Gallagher wouldn't be still listed as Attorney General, a year after he left office?


  • #17
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    RichieC wrote: »
    Operation northwoods, had that leaked in a free society there would have been revolution!

    It did, there wasn't. Assuming that because events didn't play out as you expected therefore something sinister is at work is faulty reasoning, at best.

    RichieC wrote: »
    especially after 9/11 happened to use half of the ideas put forward in it. Rice stated "we never imagined someone would use planes to crash into buildings" - a dam lie, it was in the operation northwood document.

    And this proves what, exactly? That this is all an elaborate lie or that people in office nearly forty years later don't have that document committed to memory?

    RichieC wrote: »
    How many people have to die before you grace us with some of this scepticism?

    When people start actually putting forward evidence instead of using trite logical fallacies like the above.
    RichieC wrote: »
    It's well known now that the gulf of tonkin incident that lead to the Vietnam war was a pack of lies.

    Nope, not "well known" at all. There were two seperate incidents, one real and the other where the Maddox shot at nothing for a few hours.
    RichieC wrote: »
    *snip*

    Guess what kid, nations are inherently shitty to each other in the pursuit of what they want. And it's been this was since the dawn of time. Pick up a history book some time an have a look at, say, renaissance Italy. Machiavelli wrote "the prince" during this period of time, what is it that makes you think the modern age is any different to then?

    I know it's human nature to believe that the period in which you live is the one where things have been the worst ever, but that's just natural biases at work.
    The same way people think summers used to be longer or that kids were better behaved back in their day.

    RichieC wrote: »
    We are not free, If we were we'd have done something about these shysters by now.

    If we're not free how are you allowed to continue to so 'bravely' crusade onwards? I would have thought with the complete lack of freedoms you're supposedly living under that such dissent wouldn't be tolerated?
    I'm not being serious, of course, your continued existence makes no case either way, but I just wanted to try using your reasoning for a second.
    It's fun, I'll give you that.

    But, once again, because things have not played out as you've imagined they ought to is evidence of nothing more than events not playing out as you believe they ought to. And nothing more.
    RichieC wrote: »
    Over here we get saddled with a generation of debt so that a bunch of bankers can remain in their silken undies, and all while poverty in this country begins to creep back. Oh everyone is "angry" - but it still happens.

    free my hole.

    I'm sorry you take the liberties you have for granted, but puerile, populist rage is not evidence of anything other than you are angry.
    Not convincing I'm afraid, no matter how self evident your anger makes these things to you.


  • #18
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    hooradiation wrote: »

    I'm sorry you take the liberties you have for granted, but puerile, populist rage is not evidence of anything other than you are angry.
    Not convincing I'm afraid, no matter how self evident your anger makes these things to you.

    I should be thankful I'm allowed have so called liberties?

    You simply do not get what I'm saying, and I'm sorry for you. perhaps you will wake up one day.

    The Allegory of the Cave comes to mind.


  • #19
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    RichieC wrote: »
    I should be thankful I'm allowed have so called liberties?

    Yes.
    Many people the word over do not have the same freedoms you have.
    A little bit of goddamn perspective would not go amiss.
    RichieC wrote: »
    You simply do not get what I'm saying, and I'm sorry for you. perhaps you will wake up one day.

    I do love the consistent pattern whereby on meeting the slightest resistance to the notion that your screed is a totally self evident truth the response is to go "yeah, well, i just feel sorry for you, wake up some day"

    heres a radical idea, instead of running away, how about you actually try and stand behind this amazing truth you've beheld?


  • #20
    RichieC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    hooradiation wrote: »
    Yes.
    Many people the word over do not have the same freedoms you have.
    A little bit of goddamn perspective would not go amiss.



    I do love the consistent pattern whereby on meeting the slightest resistance to the notion that your screed is a totally self evident truth the response is to go "yeah, well, i just feel sorry for you, wake up some day"

    heres a radical idea, instead of running away, how about you actually try and stand behind this amazing truth you've beheld?

    I stand fully behind my idea, man. I just don't have the word smithery to defend it.


  • #21
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    RichieC wrote: »
    You, my son, would want to take your head out of your arse.
    You think the Ireland of 1950 was more free than the Ireland of today? Seriously?? :confused:

    Do you think Russia is more or less free? Or China? (both still have huge issues, but they are a hell of a lot better than they were)


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  • #22
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    You think the Ireland of 1950 was more free than the Ireland of today? Seriously?? :confused:

    So a time when we could make all our own laws
    And if we needed to tweak our constitution it would not be dictated to us by Europe

    we were less free:confused::confused:


  • #23
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    You think the Ireland of 1950 was more free than the Ireland of today? Seriously?? :confused:

    Do you think Russia is more or less free? Or China? (both still have huge issues, but they are a hell of a lot better than they were)
    And the elephant in the room.


  • #24
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    enno99 wrote: »
    So a time when we could make all our own laws
    And if we needed to tweak our constitution it would not be dictated to us by Europe

    we were less free:confused::confused:
    Yes - if you were a woman who wanted contraception, or you wanted to read some (banned) great literature, or you happened to be gay, or whatever.


  • #25
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    And the elephant in the room.
    Of course, the elephant in the room - the ability to photoshop any sort of bullsh!t image that you please.

    I like how you volunteer yourself for this 'Big Brother' surveillance programme, by the way. I imagine if you were genuinely worried you just wouldn't use a computer?


  • #26
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    RichieC wrote: »
    I stand fully behind my idea, man. I just don't have the word smithery to defend it.

    That is a shame.

    Though there is a bot mot often attributed to Einstein that I feel is appropriate here
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."


  • #27
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Of course, the elephant in the room - the ability to photoshop any sort of bullsh!t image that you please.

    I like how you volunteer yourself for this 'Big Brother' surveillance programme, by the way. I imagine if you were genuinely worried you just wouldn't use a computer?

    I bet he's the type to use Linux or so because he's convinced Bill Gates is watching him through the web with Windows.


  • #28
    Channel Zero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Channel Zero


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I bet he's the type to use Linux or so because he's convinced Bill Gates is watching him through the web with Windows.

    I bet you're the type that only comes on here to crack bad jokes.


  • #29
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Channel Zero wrote: »
    I bet you're the type that only comes on here to crack bad jokes.

    You bet wrong :p


  • #30
    Tzar Chasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    in fairness we have more freedoms now than we did in the 1950's but Less I think than we did in the 90's.

    we seem to be taking a backward step towards authoritarianism and as a whole the population seems to be hoodwinked into demanding more draconian measures for their own protection.

    We've seen two european Prime ministers ousted and replaced with Banker/Economist types

    We have this insane referendum about the Fiscal Treaty which wants to enshrine a specific econmic model in Our Constitution


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  • #31
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    We've seen two european Prime ministers ousted and replaced with Banker/Economist types]
    Entirely justified in those cases though. Greece and Italy were going down the toilet under Berlusconi and the whole farrago of corrupt Greek muppet leaders. I suppose countries should have the right to turn themselves into failed states, but for the greater good of the populace, I don't have a huge issue with installing competent leaders on a temporary basis with the support of their democratically elected parliaments.


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