Former FG CLLR up on corruption charges

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0509/1224315800748.html

you 'forgot' to mention that John Deasy FG TD reported it to the Garda.

Waterford Circuit Court heard at Mr Forsey’s trial opening that, in April 2007, Jenny Forsey approached John Deasy TD and, as a result of their conversation, Mr Deasy went to the Garda and advised Ms Forsey, separated wife of Fred Forsey, to do likewise.

Mr Deasy said in evidence he had been approached by a property developer in summer of 2006 and asked to support a rezoning of lands outside Dungarvan. He later met Mr Forsey, then a town councillor, who told him that the rezoning could “create hundreds of jobs” for the area.

There were no specifics forthcoming, however, and he thought there was “no substance” to the plan.

“It was my opinion, and it’s still my opinion, that the reason for this was to inflate the price of the land,” said the TD from the witness box.

Shea O'Meara wrote: »

The Indo always try to deflect from FFails failings.
The Deasy connection is pure soap opera and of little consequence as regards any wrong doing on Forsey's behalf.

I would love to see laws that treat fraud which effects hundreds and/or thousands as seriously as even a chap who breaks into houses gets treated.
Wouldn't it be great to see a few untouchables behind bars rather than simply paying back, sometimes a portion of what they defrauded?

Consious breach of the public trust should be a jailing offence.

Yeah your right, "Consious breach of the public trust should be a jailing offence", but how is it enforced?
Ml Lowry gets over 14k local votes yet he surely doesn't have the National public trust, so what should happen?
Another question, how did the name Forsey arrive in Waterford? I'm not clannish but I'm sure it's not a strong name in FG let alone Waterford, maybe I'm wrong.

As nuac rightly points out, we are subject to certain rules regarding ongoing court cases.

Basically, when discussing the case, posters need to stick to the facts, as released from the court.

yes, it makes such discussions rather boring, but that is how it is really, and as always we cannot allow the site or you as a poster to be put at risk.

Cheers

DrG

Wider Road wrote: »

Another question, how did the name Forsey arrive in Waterford? I'm not clannish but I'm sure it's not a strong name in FG let alone Waterford, maybe I'm wrong.

Not sure what point you are trying to make about the name?

Well, Shakespeare was right. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

RT&#201 wrote:

The former Fine Gael deputy mayor of Dungarvan has been found guilty on all six counts of having received corrupt payments from a property developer.

Fred Forsey Jr, 43, is to be sentenced next Thursday.

There was no objection to bail.

The jury took just three hours to return unanimous guilty verdicts on all six counts that he received corrupt payments totalling €80,000 from a property developer in 2006 to try to get lands rezoned outside of Dungarvan.

The maximum possible sentence is 10 years in jail.

Forsey Jr broke down in court after the verdicts were read out, as did family members.

A few minutes later, he drove out of the courthouse with his partner Karen Morrissey.

Forsey Jr’s former wife, Jenny, was not in court today.

It was her statements to gardaí which started the investigation and led to today's verdicts following an eight-day trial at Waterford Circuit Court.

Forsey Jr had accused her in court of being a liar.

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Husband leaves wife for much younger woman, she has dirt on him and lets him have it.

Makes you wonder how much other spouses know ...

Based on what I've been reading in the papers about the case, I can't help feeling it would make a great plot for a televised tragicomedy. Allegedly he jilted the missus and "went up in the years" with another lady, the two women ended up in a catfight, there were tensions between him and his party colleagues, he had bizzare plans for a property deal in Australia...:rolleyes:

He is, of course, innocent until proven guilty of wrongdoing, but it is already certain that he is no rocket scientist.:)

One of the funniest details to emerge in court was that the accused spent some of the money he allegedly received not on a trip to Vegas, Bangkok, Hawaii or some of the usual destinations for those who have had their hand in the cookie jar, but to Rome with the whole family to see the Pope.

Only in Ireland ...!:):)

rodento wrote: »

He has been found guilty:D

A former Fine Gael town councillor has been found guilty of corruptly accepting payments totalling €80,000 from a property developer in Waterford 6 years ago.
Fred Forsey Junior of Coolagh Road in Dungarvan had denied 6 counts of accepting corrupt payments on 3 separate dates.
The charges relate to periods in August, October and December of 2006.
Today at Waterford Circuit Criminal Court the jury took under 2.5 hours to find Forsey guilty of all 6 counts.
Judge Gerard Griffin adjourned sentencing on Forsey until next Thursday morning.
He has been remanded on bail.

How many more of them are out there? From ALL parties.The only reason this came to light is because of his infidelity. Otherwise, we'd be non the wiser. So many crooked transactions like this take place in this corrupt country.It's about time jail sentences were handed out.

raymon wrote: »

Great result here , finally a politician gets convicted in a straightforward manner.

There are so many others , we know who they are . I would like to see them all behind bars.

Raymon, the problem is that we don't who they all are. There are so many others, but we are only touching the surface. I never heard of this ex-FG guy until a couple of weeks ago, how many more like him are there?

raymon wrote: »

Wider Road wrote: »

Raymon, the problem is that we don't who they all are. There are so many others, but we are only touching the surface. I never heard of this ex-FG guy until a couple of weeks ago, how many more like him are there?

Not correct

We know a lot of the bad eggs( in my opinion) already , Lowry, Bertie, Callely, Flynn , Flynn , Mitchell etc .

The problem is that nobody is brave enough to make a complaint against them.

Take Flynn for example . Why doesn't FF send him down by making a complaint about the farm money. Why did FG exonerate Mitchell when the report findings were clear.

Why is Lowry still in the Dail.

Bertie and Callely still swanning around north Dublin.

Raymon, did you ever hear of Fred Forsey before this case?

raymon wrote: »

Wider Road wrote: »

Raymon, did you ever hear of Fred Forsey before this case?

Never heard of him ...... what's your point ? Bringing prosecutions against politicians takes bravery. The FG TD who gave evidence was brave . We need more like him.

You said earlier, "They are so many others , and we know who they are".
The problem is Raymon, we don't know who they all are. The ex-FG Councillor Fred Forsey proves that.

raymon wrote: »

Wider Road wrote: »

You said earlier, "They are so many others , and we know who they are".
The problem is Raymon, we don't know who they all are. The ex-FG Councillor Fred Forsey proves that.

Agreed we dont know who they all are .

But the inaction in the cases we do know about is staggering.

Next obvious question is why FG Minister Phil Hogan is stopping planning enquiries?

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

I would imagine that there are very good reasons if one scratches the surface - some people believe that it is only a matter of time before things emerge in regards big Phil. He himself sat on Kilkenny County Council until 2003.

Phil is not a likable chap ,I definitely don't want to defend the guy , but are there real allegations against him ? Who are the "some people"