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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    amiable wrote: »
    Very short price earlier. Bookies like to generate hysteria

    I know that, wouldn't touch a manager bet.

    If I stuck £100 quid on O' Neill now, the odds would probably half !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Kess73 wrote: »
    amiable wrote: »
    Very short price earlier. Bookies like to generate hysteria



    Only takes one or two big bets to create very short odds. Remember how the odds on Ribery joining Liverpool dropped a few years back thanks to one or two big bets? Loads of mugs then dove in to place bets and the only ones smiling afterwards were the bookies.
    Ive heard before Terry Venables used to back himself for managers jobs even if he hadnt been contacted.
    Only cost him a couple of grand and kept his name in the spotlight.
    These markets are a punters graveyard imo unless you have inside info


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Just popping in to say Opr has paid up on the bet as outlined here.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73850073&postcount=10043

    Opr is not a welcher.

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Just on Reina, I thought he was pretty good up to Christmas barring 1 or 2 blunders, it's only since then I've noticed a drop in form.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Like ****, you're stopping in to gloat :pac:

    Opr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    I know that, wouldn't touch a manager bet.

    If I stuck £100 quid on O' Neill now, the odds would probably half !

    You wouldn't even get 100 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    I know that, wouldn't touch a manager bet.

    If I stuck £100 quid on O' Neill now, the odds would probably half !

    You wouldn't even get 100 on
    Id say you would. Depends with what bookie too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭Damien360


    amiable wrote: »
    Its just twitter. Im on my phone otherwise id post some of the stuff being said.

    Supposedly Kenny is stepping aside/upstairs according to these rumours.

    Ballague stirring **** on twitter too tonight about Rafa.

    Same stuff being said on the liverpool.tv forums tonight. General argument there is the fans would not be happy at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,682 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    G.K. wrote: »
    adams? Successful?

    Yeah Tony Adams very successful. Charlie Adam not too bad. 2 goals and 10 assists isn't an awful return circa player that's been out for a while.
    He is crap without Lucas but its not his fault either that Soearing or Henderson or Gerrard are suited to play beside him in a midfield two.
    He has t been an astounding success but he certainly hasn't been the abject failure either.
    If he had a bad start and finished strongly, like Wigan, I reckon he'd be getting far more praise.
    Funny no one questioned Bellamy though. 6 goals and 3 assists with very similiar minutes played. Has he been that much more successful. Been ineffective lately.
    Being a defensively sound midfielder is not his forte nor does he put in aggressive and committed displays like Spearing but he has provided for others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,682 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Exams have really ****ed me up! I'm defending Adam but damn it someone has to fight his corner.
    It's me and Charlie agaisnt the world!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Maybe next you can tell me what it was like to go to games at Anfield in the 70's and 80's or at least what some Sky pundit said about it.

    You had Sky in seventies? We only had RTE1 and RTE2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭Sappy404


    Seems in recent weeks people are giving credence to the rumour because it 'won't go away'. Well, why would it? Things have only gotten worse since. That's not to say it didn't start with some people with limited imaginations talking sh!te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Re Willy and Reina

    It's only 8 months ago you were describing him as world class cool.gif




    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74295475

    This is a perfect example of what i point out about the obessives. If they want to be critical about Liverpool, by all means, go ahead. There's debates to be had if they seriously have something relevant to say rather than simply trying to get a rise.

    But they just basically see which way the wind is blowing in a Liverpool thread and then p!ss against it. They then tend to get lost amidst it all and don't actually know what point it is they're trying to make!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭The Chessplayer


    Kess73 wrote: »
    Showing your total lack of knowledge about the club you claim to support. Must be in Kenny's imagination as well as in one of his books he states that Bob was a presence in the changing room at the start of Kenny's term as manager, and that Bob did deal with a lot of the media stuff as well as getting involved with the transfer side of things with Kenny. Ah shure Kenny must be spoofing about what Bob did as well.:D

    And the Carragher comment is deserving of contempt? Behave you stirrer. There are a few posts from not too long back where you were praising Carragher to the heavens and saying he was a far better player for Liverpool than Sami ever was, and that Carragher had the better footballing mind for reading and understanding the game. Now you are calling for Sami to come back and manage the club. Classic you :D:D:D


    As for taking time to consider your points. No need as you change them on a regular basis to suit whatever spoof you try to pass off as that week's opinion. Bit like earlier today how you tried to make fun of the idea of Deschamps as Liverpool manager, 43 year old Deschamps, and then went off talking about how young managers should be given a chance to manage Liverpool and used two examples of young managers that were in their 50's.

    But keep on telling me about the bootroom and the Liverpool way. It is always great craic when I get an Irish lad telling me about how things were at the club in that city I grew up in. Maybe next you can tell me what it was like to go to games at Anfield in the 70's and 80's or at least what some Sky pundit said about it.

    Must be about time for you to start your Why isn't Flanagan playing for Ireland routine again, after all you have not done that for a few months now :D
    Ah this is madness. Smiley faces OTT, angry and smug.
    A crazed post. I thought you were just being petty but this is loo-laa territory.

    So Bob Paisley had a significant input in Kenny's early days. Ok I accept that. And Kenny is a humble man and will never take the credit. It's just lunacy to try and use the Paisley factor to undermine KK's achievements as a player-manager. How about this Kess: you can have Didier Deschamps, I'm sticking with Kenny.

    You're attacking me for being Irish and not from Liverpool. Because you are from Liverpool you are a higher authority on all things LFC? Of course I'm Irish, it's boards.ie - what do you expect? Flanagan for Ireland? Hopefully Trap will give him a call. Good luck with Roy this summer by the way!

    Kess - I'm honoured that you take such a close interest in my posts. I only hope that one day I, too, will have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the Turkish/French/Russian/Belgian/German/Spanish/Swiss/Portuguese/Italian/Norwegian/Estonian football leagues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    Exams have really ****ed me up! I'm defending Adam but damn it someone has to fight his corner.
    It's me and Charlie agaisnt the world!

    Show your support, change your name, complete with extra s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Show your support, change your name, complete with extra s.

    Likewise, Gordon Henderson!!! We'll have the full squad by next season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭SM01


    Am I going mad or is The Chessplayer calling one of the most reasonable, balanced and knowledgeable posters on the Soccer forum a bit of a spoofer? I'm all on for resonable debate but I think you're very wrong on this one...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Kess73 wrote: »
    How do you think the bulk of the Juve support would react to that, and more importantly the families of the 39 would feel?

    You will never see the victims of that day commemorated on a Liverpool shirt imho for one very simple reason, and that is because the families of the 39 would not allow it. The plaque at Anfield took a long time to come about and even it was touch and go for a long time until those families agreed to it.

    As for Heysel not being mentioned on this forum. You are wrong. It gets mentioned every year and anytime anyone who does not know about it asks a question, people always try to point them in the right direction for information on what happened.

    Unfortunately, and like Hillsborough, it often gets used by people looking to bait or score points rather than getting treated with the respect and sorrow it should.

    But you said yourself - whilst the families of the 96 are not unhappy with the shirt, they weren't all consulted; so whether the families of the 39 wanted it or not, seemingly it could be done.

    Liverpool FC were involved in 2 major tragedies in the 1980s and it's quite appropriate to respect and remember both situations. It's an emotive issue so i'll bow out of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    But you said yourself - whilst the families of the 96 are not unhappy with the shirt, they weren't all consulted; so whether the families of the 39 wanted it or not, seemingly it could be done.

    Liverpool FC were involved in 2 major tragedies in the 1980s and it's quite appropriate to respect and remember both situations. It's an emotive issue so i'll bow out of this.

    What the fuck is this shit??!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    Yeah Tony Adams very successful. Charlie Adam not too bad. 2 goals and 10 assists isn't an awful return circa player that's been out for a while.
    He is crap without Lucas but its not his fault either that Soearing or Henderson or Gerrard are suited to play beside him in a midfield two.
    He has t been an astounding success but he certainly hasn't been the abject failure either.
    If he had a bad start and finished strongly, like Wigan, I reckon he'd be getting far more praise.
    Funny no one questioned Bellamy though. 6 goals and 3 assists with very similiar minutes played. Has he been that much more successful. Been ineffective lately.
    Being a defensively sound midfielder is not his forte nor does he put in aggressive and committed displays like Spearing but he has provided for others.

    Adam is a decent squad option to partner Lucas for the money spent. As you say the problem was the general lack of midfield quality once you take out Lucas, even Spearing was out around Christmas with a suspension and IIRC a niggly injury so we'd no DM at all, and Adam had to try that role.


    As for the Kenny rumours, I'm not convinced. I've a notion the back room clear out is to get a new team in behind Kenny as I think nearly everybody would agree he was poorly advised on off field matters during the season. It could be they have faith in Kenny, just not the people helping him out, Comolli and the PR guy being 2 perfect examples.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    K-9 wrote: »
    I've a notion the back room clear out is to get a new team in behind Kenny as I think nearly everybody would agree he was poorly advised on off field matters during the season. It could be they have faith in Kenny, just not the people helping him out, Comolli and the PR guy being 2 perfect examples.

    Thats a very good analysis of the whole sorry mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj


    K-9 wrote: »
    Adam is a decent squad option to partner Lucas for the money spent. As you say the problem was the general lack of midfield quality once you take out Lucas, even Spearing was out around Christmas with a suspension and IIRC a niggly injury so we'd no DM at all, and Adam had to try that role.


    As for the Kenny rumours, I'm not convinced. I've a notion the back room clear out is to get a new team in behind Kenny as I think nearly everybody would agree he was poorly advised on off field matters during the season. It could be they have faith in Kenny, just not the people helping him out, Comolli and the PR guy being 2 perfect examples.

    Id have a small wager alot of the movement is down to Brian Barwick since he came in a couple of months ago. I think he is giving the owners an advisory role as well as the more formal role he got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    But you said yourself - whilst the families of the 96 are not unhappy with the shirt, they weren't all consulted; so whether the families of the 39 wanted it or not, seemingly it could be done.

    Liverpool FC were involved in 2 major tragedies in the 1980s and it's quite appropriate to respect and remember both situations. It's an emotive issue so i'll bow out of this.

    Heysel is for Juventus and the family members involved, Going on your logic the Belgian FA, UEFA and the Belgian police should also commemorate it. I don't know why people feel the need to comment on Heysel and Hillsborough as if they were the same, I mean why? Heysel doesn't make the pain Hillsborough victims feel lesser.

    Is the pain the Bradford fire families greater because their club had no Heysel?

    daithijjj wrote: »
    Id have a small wager alot of the movement is down to Brian Barwick since he came in a couple of months ago. I think he is giving the owners an advisory role as well as the more formal role he got.

    Makes sense. I'm just not sure this Monday conference means Kenny is gone, it certainly could look that way or it could mean a new DoF which I'd say FSG have had sounded out for ages, pre the Comolli sacking.

    Off field we've been a shambles. Comolli over paying, I'd say stupid legal advice during the Suarez thing and other stuff. We'll see on Monday but I don't think it is as cut and dried as some think.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Is there a conference called for Monday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Is there a conference called for Monday?

    Supposed to be and the pre-match press interview canceled.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    I'm still not ruling out this prediction I made

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78086142&postcount=2039

    I have a small wager on this at a big price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭willowthewisp


    amiable wrote: »
    I'm still not ruling out this prediction I made

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78086142&postcount=2039

    I have a small wager on this at a big price

    Paul Lambertm, just another flavour of the month manager.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭G.K.


    Of course he isn't - his work for the last 3 seasons has been excellent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj


    K-9 wrote: »
    Heysel is for Juventus and the family members involved, Going on your logic the Belgian FA, UEFA and the Belgian police should also commemorate it. I don't know why people feel the need to comment on Heysel and Hillsborough as if they were the same, I mean why? Heysel doesn't make the pain Hillsborough victims feel lesser.

    Is the pain the Bradford fire families greater because their club had no Heysel?




    Makes sense. I'm just not sure this Monday conference means Kenny is gone, it certainly could look that way or it could mean a new DoF which I'd say FSG have had sounded out for ages, pre the Comolli sacking.

    Off field we've been a shambles. Comolli over paying, I'd say stupid legal advice during the Suarez thing and other stuff. We'll see on Monday but I don't think it is as cut and dried as some think.

    I somehow doubt Fenway Sports Management would re-tweet this 3 days ago if Kenny was going anywhere.

    "Dalglish has given us amazing performances, next season it will be same performances with results".


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