Farming Chit Chat

moy83 · 09-05-2012 08:00PM

Oh christ the heart must of been sideways in you :eek:
Wait until they are old enough to start drinking , thats when you will really have to start worrying . I know my mother had a few sleepless nights waiting up for me

wesleysniper38 · 09-05-2012 09:03PM

On another related / semi-related matter....
I'm wondering about getting cows and heifers scanned...now these animals should be mi nimum 3 / 4 months in calf.....has anyone got scanning done on cattle at that stage of pregnancy?
I know you can get them handled but I'm curious about the scanning method where the animal is scanned externally.........

Bizzum · 09-05-2012 09:12PM

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

On another related / semi-related matter....
I'm wondering about getting cows and heifers scanned...now these animals should be mi nimum 3 / 4 months in calf.....has anyone got scanning done on cattle at that stage of pregnancy?
I know you can get them handled but I'm curious about the scanning method where the animal is scanned externally.........

Yeah, we would have routinely scanned at that stage of pregnancy.

I'm not sure what you mean by "scanned externally" though?

whelan1 · 10-05-2012 08:49AM

when i was on a farm in england there was a old farmer, who used to knock the cows side with a stick to see if they where in calf, would only work if they where well on in calf... prefer to know earlier myself then you can work on it

Muckit · 10-05-2012 08:49AM

Good morning Vietnam

God it's absolutely miserable weatherwise here all morning. Drizzle drizzle and more drizzle :rolleyes:

RE Scanning, would there be many suckler lads on here that get their cows scanned?
Would it be a whole herd thing or just a few doubtfuls?

Muckit · 10-05-2012 08:52AM

whelan1 wrote: »

when i was on a farm in england there was a old farmer, who used to knock the cows side with a stick to see if they where in calf, would only work if they where well on in calf... prefer to know earlier myself then you can work on it

would the calf jump, or was it sound or something he was going on???

whelan1 · 10-05-2012 08:53AM

we scan the sucklers about twice a year... wouldnt be a specialcall out would be when he's doig the milkers or in calf heifers

whelan1 · 10-05-2012 08:54AM

Muckit wrote: »

would the calf jump, or was it sound or something he was going on???

some thing about the sound the stick would make

a hollow sound or a fluidy sound

bob charles · 10-05-2012 09:06AM

whelan1 wrote: »

some thing about the sound the stick would make a hollow sound or a fluidy sound

yip some can do it and they claim 100% success

, I can tell you its a lot more hit and miss than that. called 'thumbing' around these parts

reilig · 10-05-2012 09:07AM

Muckit wrote: »

Good morning Vietnam God it's absolutely miserable weatherwise here all morning. Drizzle drizzle and more drizzle :rolleyes:

RE Scanning, would there be many suckler lads on here that get their cows scanned?
Would it be a whole herd thing or just a few doubtfuls?

We scan everything. The autumn calvers in March/April and the Spring calvers in September/october.

Best time to scan is 60 to 90 days after going to the bull. However, we have often scanned when they were 5 or 6 months gone to be sure that they were in calf. Scanner man will be able to tell you how long they are gone, but won't be able to tell you if twins after 4 months.

Used to think our scanner man was great until a neighbour informed me that he got a guy to scan who was able to give him the sex of the calves.

bbam · 10-05-2012 09:48AM

Rain, rain, rain here in Cavan. Well beyond a joke now. While we have some grass the ground is getting steadily wetter as May goes bye. I suppose I wouldn't mind some rain if it was warm and a growth. But this cool wet weather is awful.
Cattle don't seem at all contented either, sort of eating for the sake of it, started feeding meal again, a kg each to keep them happy.
Have a field with 20 heifers and not once have I found them all lying resting as you'd expect during May.

jerdee · 10-05-2012 10:24AM

rain drizzle all morning down here in limerick.

upside grain moving again normally it would be slacking off but busy even in sat last to keep up.

a lad i sold a bull to last winter rang me to say he just scanned and 25 calves in 22 sucker cows happy out.

Muckit · 10-05-2012 10:40AM

jerdee wrote: »

a lad i sold a bull to last winter rang me to say he just scanned and 25 calves in 22 sucker cows happy out.

It's great to get good news stories like this

I had to read your post again.... safe to say he's fertile!

What was that about the grain? Do you sell grain?

jerdee · 10-05-2012 10:47AM

What was that about the grain? Do you sell grain?[/Quote]

no i work in warehousing/port where we store loadout feed products to all millers

lakill Farm · 10-05-2012 11:07AM

Thinking of building a small tank under a few pigs. would i need an agitation point? I could also get 5000 gallons of pig slurry delivered . Slats are bought already.

Tank dimensions.

30ft(l) x 8ft (w) x 6ft (D) or 9.090m x 2.424 x 1.818m = 40.058 M3?

so 40.058 x 1000 litres = 40,058 Litres? or (div by 4.54l) = 8823 Gallons?

Am i right?

8ft deep is 8823G (/6ft x 8ft) = 11,764 Gallons?

reilig · 10-05-2012 11:09AM

I sold a bull march last year and the guy was ringing me every couple of weeks to let me know how he was doing . . . "he's following a cow today".

Was glad when he rang to say that he had good calves off him. Got a few calves off him myself too and very happy with the quality, so he should be happy too.

jerdee wrote: »

rain drizzle all morning down here in limerick.

upside grain moving again normally it would be slacking off but busy even in sat last to keep up.

a lad i sold a bull to last winter rang me to say he just scanned and 25 calves in 22 sucker cows happy out.

tismesoitis · 10-05-2012 11:15AM

Muckit wrote: »

Good morning Vietnam God it's absolutely miserable weatherwise here all morning. Drizzle drizzle and more drizzle :rolleyes:

RE Scanning, would there be many suckler lads on here that get their cows scanned?
Would it be a whole herd thing or just a few doubtfuls?

We calve for about 10 months in the year and scan probably 4-6 times.Our vet does it for us so we try arrange it when theres something else that has to be done so to make the most of the initial call out fee. costs €4 per head regardless of numbers after that. At most cows will only be 60 -70 days served so if 1 or 2 aren't in calf we don't loose tooo much time with them.

Muckit · 10-05-2012 11:32AM

reilig wrote: »

I sold a bull march last year and the guy was ringing me every couple of weeks to let me know how he was doing . . . "he's following a cow today".

Those sort of calls would drive me soft. Alot to be said for the fertility guarantee schemes at some society sales. Let the buyer get onto the insurance company if he has any problems.

From posts I have read about problems with buying/selling heifers and them later proving incalf, there would be alot to be said for commercial marts introducing the option to sell under an insurance scheme.

Perhaps such a version exists already??

Off the top of my head....

The way I would see it working is that as a seller you are offered the insurance when you book them in or in the sellers box. Say an extra 6% on top of your mart fees.

If you opt for the insurance and they are bought for feeding and are later found incalf, then the seller contacts mart who forwards details to the insurance company who deal with the whole mess. The seller walks away from the whole thing the day he leaves the seller's box and nothing can come back to haunt him. The buyer has the reassurance that he will be compensated should such an incident occurr. All would be subject of course to very specific T's & C's.

wesleysniper38 · 10-05-2012 11:55AM

Bizzum wrote: »

Yeah, we would have routinely scanned at that stage of pregnancy.

I'm not sure what you mean by "scanned externally" though?

I mean without putting the probe through the rectum and instead scanning from the side of the animal ?

Kovu · 10-05-2012 12:19PM

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

I mean without putting the probe through the rectum and instead scanning from the side of the animal ?

So technically some form of ultrasound like us wimmen get?:p
I'm sure they exist in some form.

blue5000 · 10-05-2012 01:17PM

Ya the lad that scans for me can do the heavier pregnant cows on the side. Only works from about 6 months on.

whelan1 · 10-05-2012 01:23PM

rang dvo, at 12.45, closed for lunch from 12.30 til 2pm... rang at 2.15 got the snottiest cow ever, god how some people really know how to make you feel like crap............ :mad:

bbam · 10-05-2012 01:26PM

whelan1 wrote: »

rang dvo, at 12.45, closed for lunch from 12.30 til 2pm... rang at 2.15 got the snottiest cow ever, god how some people really know how to make you feel like crap............ :mad:

The cheek!
That's some lunch break too, it's twats like that that get all public servers a bad reputation. I'd also have thought their breaks would be better covered due to Croke park deal.

whelan1 · 10-05-2012 01:29PM

when she said" what do you want me to do?" i should have said, learn some manners you wagon:D

blue5000 · 10-05-2012 01:45PM

Ring her again and explain to her that you suffer from turrets syndrome, then give her an earful:D:D:D

whelan1 · 10-05-2012 02:05PM

i rang bandon again, she said i would have to ring the dvo again, explained what the dvo "lady" was like, she said no problem i will sort all that here for you:D i said thank you very much, now problem is sorted no thanks to dvo wagon

redzerologhlen · 10-05-2012 03:05PM

I see that progressive genetics are after putting out an update for their beef catalogue, looks to be some smashing new bulls in it.

jerdee · 10-05-2012 03:15PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

I see that progressive genetics are after putting out an update for their beef catalogue, looks to be some smashing new bulls in it.

is it online???????

redzerologhlen · 10-05-2012 03:19PM

LINK

Bodacious · 10-05-2012 03:19PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

I see that progressive genetics are after putting out an update for their beef catalogue, looks to be some smashing new bulls in it.

Is it on their website or paper copy ?

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