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It's Bertie's fault i'm so broke...

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  • #32
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    TehDagsBass wrote: »
    Yeah 'cause people were being marched into the bank with a gun to their head and made take out mortgages.

    If you bought during the boom and are suffering now, it's your fault and yours alone.

    :pac:


  • #33
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    This was a troll thread btw


  • #34
    JoeGil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭JoeGil


    It's Bertie's fault the country's broke.
    It's your fault you're broke.


  • #35
    cassel16
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭cassel16


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    This was a troll thread btw

    Don't admit it!


  • #36
    Snowie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    This was a troll thread btw



    theres basements for people like you :pac:


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  • #37
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    TehDagsBass wrote: »
    If you want to feel real pain, when you check your pay slip work out how many weekly dole payments you're supporting with the taxes taken from your pay.

    Honestly, it has me in such a fit when I do it that I could almost march down to the dole queues and start trying to get the feckers working myself.

    If you had a better job you wouldn't need to care as much, a bigger take home pay can make you a lot happier.

    Get a promotion ya lazy fecker.


  • #38
    TehDagsBass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭TehDagsBass


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Oh seriously, get over yourself

    Oh ****, sorry, I didn't know I was wrong? Has anyone reported the banks for dragging people in and putting a gun to their head and have them sign credit agreements?

    Hell, contracts are invalid if signed under duress such as the above, so they really ought to pursue it if it it's true as they could have the debt written off.
    danger mouse wrote: »
    In all fairness the dole was there when I needed it. Thank god I'm off it now.

    I Wouldn't begrudge a man the dole at all. It's the fail safe every first world country should have for it's people. It sure helped me climb up out of a hole and sort myself out.

    No I absolutely wouldn't, I begrudge those who are sitting on it with the attitude of "why should I work for minimum wage when I can get €200 a week doing nothing", of which there are an enormous amount, not to mention the long term dole lifers that we're supporting, those who choose it as a life/career and those scamming the system with part time cash in hand jobs/nixers.
    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    If you had a better job you wouldn't need to care as much, a bigger take home pay can make you a lot happier.

    Get a promotion ya lazy fecker.

    I believe that, sir, is a logical fallacy.


  • #39
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    TehDagsBass wrote: »
    I believe that, sir, is a logical fallacy.

    Not really.


  • #40
    TehDagsBass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭TehDagsBass


    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Not really.
    A bigger take home pay would amount in more tax being paid which actually increases the issue that you were trying to address with your above pay, as opposed to decreasing it.


  • #41
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    OP is obsessed with pushing this smug message, and with the rolleyes symbol.


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  • #42
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    TehDagsBass wrote: »
    A bigger take home pay would amount in more tax being paid which actually increases the issue that you were trying to address with your above pay, as opposed to decreasing it.

    You really don't get when you are being trolled, do ya?


  • #43
    TehDagsBass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭TehDagsBass


    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    You really don't get when you are being trolled, do ya?
    Nope.


  • #44
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    JoeGil wrote: »
    It's Bertie's fault the country's broke.
    It's your fault you're broke.

    But i'm not broke, i'm having the time of my life


  • #45
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Dudess wrote: »
    OP is obsessed with pushing this smug message, and with the rolleyes symbol.

    It's just many people on here moan about how it's other peoples fault


  • #46
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    People entrust the running of the economy to elected officials. When it goes wrong they tend to blame those they trusted, and rightly so.

    When we take out mortgages, loans etc we do so on the basis of what we can control - I work hard and I will keep my job, maybe even get a promotion etc. AND not on what we can't control i.e macroeconomics. If we did base our financial decision on the fact that our employer may go broke and make us redundant then nobody would ever buy a property, a car or anything beyond food.

    And as for marching down to the dole office and finding everybody work - This is a Jesus complex, there is one vacancy for every eight unemployed. Loaves and fishes.

    People who bought 2,3,4+ properties that they didn't need have little right to complain, they are part of the problem. People who bought a home for their families and subsequently area now struggling to repay the mortgage due to the change in economic conditions are fully deserving of sympathy.

    I did neither but have great sympathy for the latter and none for the former. I have less sympathy for those who blame the many for the mistakes of the few.


  • #47
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    TehDagsBass wrote: »
    If you want to feel real pain, when you check your pay slip work out how many weekly dole payments you're supporting with the taxes taken from your pay.

    Honestly, it has me in such a fit when I do it that I could almost march down to the dole queues and start trying to get the feckers working myself.

    And the guy above you is paying for your selfish draining of the state's resources. Remember: don't get sick or educated. Your taxes aren't covering how much they cost.


  • #48
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    Toby Take a Bow wrote: »
    And the guy above you is paying for your selfish draining of the state's resources. Remember: don't get sick or educated. Your taxes aren't covering how much they cost.

    No this guy's taxes are all spent on welfare. He doesn't use:

    Gardai
    Roads
    HSE
    Schools
    College
    Defence
    etc

    And he doesn't want to contribute his share of the debt repayment as it is not his fault.


  • #49
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    People who bought 2,3,4+ properties that they didn't need have little right to complain, they are part of the problem. People who bought a home for their families and subsequently area now struggling to repay the mortgage due to the change in economic conditions are fully deserving of sympathy.

    I did neither but have great sympathy for the latter and none for the former. I have less sympathy for those who blame the many for the mistakes of the few.

    Well put :)


  • #50
    thecommietommy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭thecommietommy


    Seanie Fitz and co. can take some blame too.


  • #51
    paddyandy
    Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    The Saga of the collapse of our Economy was a mirror of Irish Society with all the faults and failings we have as a nation .


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  • #52
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    thecommietommy wrote: »
    Seanie Fitz and co. can take some blame too.

    True but ultimately they shouldn't have been able to get away with it. To say there was insufficient financial regulation is akin to saying Hitler wasn't particularly fond of the Jews.


  • #53
    saa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    No not that I'm broke, just stuck, I might of got shot at more than a dead end job before things got so competitive hey we'll see what happens, its not my fault any way I or my family never lived beyond our means or got greedy, that doesnt mean other families didn't but they were allowed to.


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