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Invented Documents "found" in Osama bin Laden raid to be released.

  • 03-05-2012 08:46AM
    #1
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    A selection of more than 6,000 al-Qaeda files seized during the US Navy Seal raid on Osama bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound is to be made public later today.

    The cache, described as a “treasure trove” of material by US officials, was extracted from five computers, dozens of hard drives and more than 100 external data storage devices found in bin Laden’s hideaway.

    "Al-Qaida was so distrusted among Muslims that Osama bin Laden mulled changing the terror network's name, documents to be released in New York Thursday indicate".

    Its gas, the highly trained navy seals that were subsequently silenced by Obama in a helicopter "crash" only weeks after the raid were able to retrieve a vast "treasure trove" of information from Osama Bin Laden's hideout and yet were unable to retrieve the body of the culprit himself. :rolleyes:

    The agenda is obvious, Obama is trying to make peace with the Muslim community by making audacious claims about the very person that he invented himself and at the same time trying to claim all the credit for it.

    We also know that the US presidential elections are coming up and he will need all the browney points he can get from all those gullible people that soak in mainstream media. :p

    This should be interesting.

    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/documents-found-in-osama-bin-laden-raid-to-be-released-3097634.html


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  • #2
    Jonny7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    the very person that he invented himself

    Ah so Obama was responsible for implicating an invented person for the 1992 bombing in Aden, Yemen just after he graduated from Harvard?

    Please go on..


  • #3
    shanered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    I think he intented to imply that Osama Bin Laden was invented as a culprit as the fallguy for the 9/11 attacks and the subsequent invasion of Afganastan. And justifying the occupation as a search for him.

    Not that Obama got a light bulb flash after Harvard to invent Osama as a bomber.


  • #4
    gibraltar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    shanered wrote: »
    I think he intented to imply that Osama Bin Laden was invented as a culprit as the fallguy for the 9/11 attacks and the subsequent invasion of Afganastan. And justifying the occupation as a search for him.

    Not that Obama got a light bulb flash after Harvard to invent Osama as a bomber.

    No he actually thinks Obama and Osama are the same person.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056620607


  • #5
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,855 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think RTDH meant that he invented the claims himself, not that he invented Osama


  • #6
    shanered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    :eek:
    :rolleyes:
    O, now I see.......


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  • #7
    Jonny7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    shanered wrote: »
    I think he intented to imply that Osama Bin Laden was invented as a culprit as the fallguy for the 9/11 attacks and the subsequent invasion of Afganastan. And justifying the occupation as a search for him.

    Not that Obama got a light bulb flash after Harvard to invent Osama as a bomber.

    Poor George W can't catch a break, even the credit for inventing Bin Laden as a culprit goes to someone who took the Presidency 7 years later.


  • #8
    shanered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    The "mastermind" never gets the credit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ;)


  • #9
    gibraltar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Penn wrote: »
    I think RTDH meant that he invented the claims himself, not that he invented Osama


    It was never made clear if RTDH believes that Obama invented Osama or Osama invented Obama or indeed if Obama/Osama even knew that he was actually two people, so its entirely possible that a new theory has arrived today.


  • #10
    Torakx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Easier to stay on topic if you ask the poster about his current Ct theory than bringing old/other Ct's into this one me thinks.

    Source
    Peter Bergen, a terrorism analyst, said information about the 10-year search for bin Laden’s lair would probably be included in the release.
    Mr Bergen was given access to some of the files for a book about the hunt, including letters bin Laden had written to al Qaeda leaders and other terror heads.

    Oh this should be good.The first propoganda book rights given to an author.
    Taken from WIKI
    Canadian and British opinions.
    The BBC, in an article published shortly after the 9/11 attacks, stated that bin Laden "received security training from the CIA itself, according to Middle Eastern analyst Hazhir Teimourian."[1]
    In a 2003 article, Michael Powelson of the Russian journal Demokratizatsiya wrote:
    It is difficult to believe that the United States played no role in the operations of the son of one of the wealthiest men in Saudi Arabia. Indeed, it is much more likely that the United States knew full-well of bin Laden's operation and gave it all the support they could.[2]
    In a 2004 BBC article entitled "Al-Qaeda's origins and links", the BBC wrote:
    During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding. Some analysts believe Bin Laden himself had security training from the CIA.[3]
    In a 2006 InDepth piece on Osama Bin Laden, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation published that,[4]
    Bin Laden apparently received training from the CIA, which was backing the Afghan holy warriors – the mujahedeen – who were tying down Soviet forces in Afghanistan.

    Bergens opinion
    According to CNN journalist Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997,
    The story about bin Laden and the CIA — that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden — is simply a folk myth

    Hmm not reallly suprised he got the rights to the book lol
    Let me guess, a best seller? CHAA! CHIIINNGG!


  • #11
    paddyandy
    Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Every machine in the world that produces documents has 'fingerprints' .????? Fakin' ?


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  • #12
    Lionel Messy
    Site Banned Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Lionel Messy


    Obama is Osama. That's the real conspiracy. He wears a mask.


  • #13
    Jonny7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Torakx wrote: »
    Easier to stay on topic if you ask the poster about his current Ct theory than bringing old/other Ct's into this one me thinks.

    Well we are addressing the wording of the very first post of the thread by the original poster.

    That's pretty current if you ask me!


  • #14
    Torakx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Well we are addressing the wording of the very first post of the thread by the original poster.

    That's pretty current if you ask me!
    Ah thanks. just saw "the very person he invented himself"
    I guess that could use clarifying.It does sound like this CT involved Obama creating the alias Osama.
    If anything i would think Osama created Obama.


  • #15
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    gibraltar wrote: »
    No he actually thinks Obama and Osama are the same person.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056620607
    It must have been very confusing for Obama organising a raid to kill himself, and then watching it on TV in a different country.


  • #16
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    Easier to stay on topic if you ask the poster about his current Ct theory than bringing old/other Ct's into this one me thinks.
    I'm not sure if a theory he was defending yesterday or two days ago could be characterised as an 'old' one. And if he has abandoned them as theories, then it might make sense to clarify that and we can focus on the latest claims.


  • #17
    Torakx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    I do agree.
    Because RTTH is a regular poster of CT's i respect him alot and presumed it was another badgering for the sake of it situation.
    But i do see the point in this situation.


  • #18
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    2m7sxti.jpg

    Sounds exactly like the same fabricated crap we hear from Wikileaks.


    Revealed: How bin Laden plotted to bring down Air Force One to kill Obama and replace him with 'totally unprepared' Biden (Sarcastic :eek:)

    Letters show that terror chief was growing impatient with his followers and the 'mistakes' they made (Sarcastic :eek:)

    Al Qaeda wanted to assassinate Obama so that an 'unprepared' Joe Biden would take over (Sarcastic :eek:)

    Terror group planned to spread propaganda ahead of 10th anniversary of 9/11 and identified best U.S. networks to get their message out (Sarcastic :eek:)

    Described Fox News as falling 'into the abyss,' and ABC News as 'all right'
    (Sarcastic :eek:)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138851/Osama-bin-Laden-files-reveal-plot-bring-Air-Force-One-kill-Barack-Obama.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” Adolf Hitler


  • #19
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” Adolf Hitler
    Is it working for you?


  • #20
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    2m7sxti.jpg

    Sounds exactly like the same fabricated crap we hear from Wikileaks.


    Revealed: How bin Laden plotted to bring down Air Force One to kill Obama and replace him with 'totally unprepared' Biden (Sarcastic :eek:)

    Letters show that terror chief was growing impatient with his followers and the 'mistakes' they made (Sarcastic :eek:)

    Al Qaeda wanted to assassinate Obama so that an 'unprepared' Joe Biden would take over (Sarcastic :eek:)

    Terror group planned to spread propaganda ahead of 10th anniversary of 9/11 and identified best U.S. networks to get their message out (Sarcastic :eek:)

    Described Fox News as falling 'into the abyss,' and ABC News as 'all right'
    (Sarcastic :eek:)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138851/Osama-bin-Laden-files-reveal-plot-bring-Air-Force-One-kill-Barack-Obama.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” Adolf Hitler

    So, why do you believe these are all fabricated?

    I mean, is this a hunch or do you have some kind of verifiable proof?


  • #21
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    hooradiation wrote: »
    So, why do you believe these are all fabricated?

    I mean, is this a hunch or do you have some kind of verifiable proof?

    It would be good if the answer wasn't along the lines of: "It's obvious!"...followed by no evidence, but lots of talk about the Christian Bible (why not the Koran?) and text copied from far-right web sources.


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  • #22
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    hooradiation wrote: »
    So, why do you believe these are all fabricated?

    I mean, is this a hunch or do you have some kind of verifiable proof?
    Because they are all so stupid and a classroom of primary school kids could have done a better job putting something like this together.
    .


    Why would Bin Laden keep so much highly sensitive and confidential documentation in such a dirty rundown squalor like this? Look at the state of the place. One thing I can say the Yanks are good at and that is Hollywood Staging.

    Looking at one thread in AH, Apparently Al-Qaeda had planned to convert the Irish to Islam!
    This is an obvious attempt for the Obama Machine to try and win voting support from Irish Americans living in the states.

    Terror group planned to spread propaganda ahead of 10th anniversary of 9/11 - and identified best U.S. networks to get their message out
    The the above is just another attempt to justify internet censorship, after all Obama still states that Islamic Fundamental terrorism "is still a great threat".


    "The missives also revealed how it was bin Laden's intention to strike the Americans in favour of other Western nations'
    This is an obvious another attempt to give credit to the Obama Machine for taking this man out in order to gain votes.

    I am sure Obama would have absolutely no problems organizing these Authentic looking Islamic memos with his Islamic bed buddies. These look great in press photos to convince his gullible voters.


  • #23
    gibraltar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Because they are all so stupid and a classroom of primary school kids could have done a better job putting something like this together.

    OK the invented documents are rubbish and a child could do a better job, good news the NWO are so stupid they cant even fake documents.
    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Why would Bin Laden keep so much highly sensitive and confidential documentation in such a dirty rundown squalor like this? Look at the state of the place. One thing I can say the Yanks are good at and that is Hollywood Staging.

    Another attempt to fake things goes awry, why cant they learn how to fake things better?
    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    "The missives also revealed how it was bin Laden's intention to strike the Americans in favour of other Western nations'
    This is an obvious another attempt to give credit to the Obama Machine for taking this man out in order to gain votes.

    Obama wants credit for killing himself?
    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I am sure Obama would have absolutely no problems organizing these Authentic looking Islamic memos with his Islamic bed buddies. These look great in press photos to convince his gullible voters.

    At last the stupid idiots who cant fake documents better than a child have suddenly learned how to do good fakes!

    So the "truth" is that is that if you don't like it then its a fake and if you agree with it then its genuine, that must make things so easy for you.


  • #24
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    gibraltar wrote: »
    So the "truth" is that is that if you don't like it then its a fake and if you agree with it then its genuine, that must make things so easy for you.
    Also, did you notice that Obama - who is secretly Bin Laden, and also the anti-christ, and also head of the New World Order - became a Muslim again in that last paragraph?

    He's a busy guy. How he finds time to be with his daughters and wife too is a mystery.


  • #25
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    gibraltar wrote: »
    Obama wants credit for killing himself?
    Precisely. (Killing the very man that he invented Himself)
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Also, did you notice that Obama - who is secretly Bin Laden, and also the anti-christ, and also head of the New World Order - became a Muslim again in that last paragraph?

    He's a busy guy. How he finds time to be with his daughters and wife too is a mystery.
    Yes, he is a mastermind.:p


  • #26
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Precisely. (Killing the very man that he invented Himself)


    Yes, he is a mastermind.:p

    And it never occurs to you that your claims are - to use your own phrase - so ridiculous that classroom of primary school children could see through them?


  • #27
    gibraltar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Precisely. (Killing the very man that he invented Himself)


    Yes, he is a mastermind.:p

    A mastermind who cant fake even simple documents, very stupid mastermind IMO.


  • #28
    gibraltar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Also, did you notice that Obama - who is secretly Bin Laden, and also the anti-christ, and also head of the New World Order - became a Muslim again in that last paragraph?

    He's a busy guy. How he finds time to be with his daughters and wife too is a mystery.

    Don't forget he is also a self created Fascist Marxist oculist.


  • #29
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Because they are all so stupid and a classroom of primary school kids could have done a better job putting something like this together.

    This is not evidence, this is speculation on your part.

    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Why would Bin Laden keep so much highly sensitive and confidential documentation in such a dirty rundown squalor like this?

    What is it about the "squalor" that you imagine prohibits it from being used to store documents?
    Basically, you're asserting that because you don't like the look of the place, therefore nobody could be reasonably be expected to keep documents of worth there.
    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Look at the state of the place. One thing I can say the Yanks are good at and that is Hollywood Staging.

    Just the facts, ma'am.
    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Looking at one thread in AH, Apparently Al-Qaeda had planned to convert the Irish to Islam!
    This is an obvious attempt for the Obama Machine to try and win voting support from Irish Americans living in the states.

    Once again, facts, please.
    Simply because you have invented an reason for this and assigned it to parties you don't like, it does not follow that it is true.
    It is not obvious simply because you say so. Try showing how the document is actually a fabrication instead of presupposing it's truth because it fits in your existing narrative.

    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Terror group planned to spread propaganda ahead of 10th anniversary of 9/11 - and identified best U.S. networks to get their message out[/I]
    The the above is just another attempt to justify internet censorship, after all Obama still states that Islamic Fundamental terrorism "is still a great threat".

    Once again, facts, not speculation. You're creating connections and assuming they are self evident. And to you they may well be. But if you do not demonstrate these connections then all they remain is unsupported connections you've made and refuse to explain.
    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    "The missives also revealed how it was bin Laden's intention to strike the Americans in favour of other Western nations'
    This is an obvious another attempt to give credit to the Obama Machine for taking this man out in order to gain votes.

    There is absolutely nothing obvious about any of this. Your entire diatribe is without any substance whatsoever
    repeating assertions ad infinitum does not make them correct no matter how often you like to pretend they do.
    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I am sure Obama would have absolutely no problems organizing these Authentic looking Islamic memos with his Islamic bed buddies. These look great in press photos to convince his gullible voters.

    "You are sure"
    That is not proof, nor do i care how sure you are. If this is as clear as you believe then you can demonstrate it to us or you can be content to continue shouting against an indifferent audience.

    The absoluteness worst part is, that while I have no cause to believe you right now, if you turn out to be correct you are your own worst enemy. Your continued avoidance of questions, lack of actual evidence and continued assertion that all things are self evident leaves me, and I suspect many others, with little choice but to reject your views.
    If you truly believe in this, then you'd be better off trying harder.

    Something I hope has been made abundantly clear by this exchange.


  • #30
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    gibraltar wrote: »
    Don't forget he is also a self created Fascist Marxist oculist.
    Democratically elected Socialist would probably round him up although he has traits of Marxism in his election manifest slogans as aleady depicted. :)

    2dl946d.jpg


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  • #31
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Democratically elected Socialist would probably round him up although he has traits of Marxism in his election manifest posters as I already demonstrated. :)

    2dl946d.jpg

    Do you think that repeatedly posting far-right propaganda here is going to convince anyone?

    The guys making up those pictures that you like are only a step away from Nazism themselves.
    News that the sign had been replaced came as a relief to the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants.

    The Tea Party chapter "acted properly in removing the grotesquely offensive sign which should never have been put up in the first place," the group said in a statement. "We ask that political groups do not trivialize our suffering in the future by making false analogies with Hitler's horrendous crimes."


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