Lowry A picture says a thousand Words

rodento · 24-04-2012 04:55PM #1

Taken from the Sunday World

http://www.sundayworld.com/columnists/index.php

LOWRY TRIED TO SLAP ME..

Looks like he still has many questions to answer, including trespass:D

Question is why is this still allowed to be a TD and why are FG bending over backwords to support him

This raises the question of just how much is he refusing to reveal and what will the government do about it

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2012/0424/1224315105598.html

A COMPANY owned by the controversial Independent TD Michael Lowry and which does not appear on the register of members’ interests in the Oireachtas owns land in his constituency.
The land, slightly less than 11 acres, has a mortgage registered against it by the Irish Nationwide Building Society, which is now part of the Irish Bank Resolution Corporation.

Sully · 24-04-2012 05:43PM

Bit strong to say FG are bending over backwards to support him tbh.

Wider Road · 24-04-2012 09:12PM

We still don't know how Lowry paid off the FG debt while he was in the FG party. I wonder why? Maybe, just maybe it's one of the reasons why he still has friends in FG.

john reilly · 24-04-2012 09:16PM

iam with lowry on this one. i would love the opourtunity to slap everybody involved with that rag.

Mr.Micro · 24-04-2012 09:29PM

Wider Road wrote: »

We still don't know how Lowry paid off the FG debt while he was in the FG party. I wonder why? Maybe, just maybe it's one of the reasons why he still has friends in FG.

Lowry has no friends.

mikemac1 · 24-04-2012 09:39PM

Can't blame a man for slapping a doorstepper from the Sunday World

Wider Road · 24-04-2012 10:02PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Wider Road wrote: »

We still don't know how Lowry paid off the FG debt while he was in the FG party. I wonder why? Maybe, just maybe it's one of the reasons why he still has friends in FG.

Lowry has no friends.

Ok so.
Oh wait a minute, what did Lowry say about John Bruton being his best friend forever. When did this change, considering you know that Lowry has no friends?
Wasn't it Phil Hogan's birthday party that Lowry was invited to? Can you also explain this one considering you said that Lowry has no friends?

Vizzy · 24-04-2012 10:20PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Lowry has no friends.

Believe me,Mr Lowry has plenty of friends in the FG party in North Tipp.
More shamefully however,I would lay any money with anyone in the country that he would probably top the poll again if an election was called in the morning.!( He probably won't run again though,his son is being groomed in the finer points of "hoodwinkery" even as we speak)

Wider Road · 24-04-2012 10:40PM

Vizzy wrote: »

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Lowry has no friends.

Believe me,Mr Lowry has plenty of friends in the FG party in North Tipp.
More shamefully however,I would lay any money with anyone in the country that he would probably top the poll again if an election was called in the morning.!( He probably won't run again though,his son is being groomed in the finer points of "hoodwinkery" even as we speak)

Don't forget that Lowry also has plenty of FG friends outside of Tipp North also. That's important and it must drive Noel Coonan mad (FG TD North Tipp).
Pity though that in all of the stories about Lowry, none deals with the paying off of the FG debt that launched Lowry's rise in the FG party.

mikemac1 · 24-04-2012 11:00PM

Wider Road wrote: »

Pity though that in all of the stories about Lowry, none deals with the paying off of the FG debt that launched Lowry's rise in the FG party.

Lowry made his name with Semple Stadium and the Trip to Tipp :cool: which cleared the debt

Was some of that money siphoned to Fine Gael?

Sounds like an interesting story

Wider Road · 24-04-2012 11:59PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Wider Road wrote: »

Pity though that in all of the stories about Lowry, none deals with the paying off of the FG debt that launched Lowry's rise in the FG party.

Lowry made his name with Semple Stadium and the Trip to Tipp :cool: which cleared the debt

Was some of that money siphoned to Fine Gael?

Sounds like an interesting story

I don't know how Lowry paid off the FG debt. I believe this was probably the biggest factor in his rise up the ladder within the FG party. Amazingly given the findings of the Moriarty Tribunal during Lowrys awarding of the phone license to Denis O'Brien, we still don't know how the FG debt was paid off by Lowry?
Anyone else got any suggestions on how we find out?

djpbarry · 25-04-2012 09:10AM

rodento wrote: »

Question is why is this still allowed to be a TD...

Because the people of North Tipp keep electing him.

golfball37 · 25-04-2012 10:47AM

Lowry worked for a crowd called Butler Refridgeration [I think]. They had a massive contract with Dunnes which kept a lot of people employed. Lowry then went behind their back and set up his own refridgeration company and took the Dunnes contract having negotiated his own terms with Ben on the QT.

This is how he originally made his money anyway. A charming individual who the people of Tipperary deserve, this latest criminal dealing will only add to his vote sadly.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 25-04-2012 04:24PM

The way I see it from living here and gauging peoples opinions is that the good outweighs the bad with Lowry in North Tipp. The reality is that he's the only man who gets anything done on a consistent basis, Coonan is a total non entity and has been a major disappointment to a lot of people.

Royal Legend · 25-04-2012 07:34PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

The way I see it from living here and gauging peoples opinions is that the good outweighs the bad with Lowry in North Tipp. The reality is that he's the only man who gets anything done on a consistent basis, Coonan is a total non entity and has been a major disappointment to a lot of people.

So the people of North Tipp would prefer a man that resembles a criminal, who appears to be backed by the rich and powerful, and no matter however much it is denied, is still revered in FG.

FG speak about openess, truth, transparency... what a joke, its just another of their failed promises, they have people associated with them that are just as corrupt as anyone in Fianna fail, the only difference is that they were not in power for years.

Vizzy · 25-04-2012 07:53PM

Royal Legend wrote: »

So the people of North Tipp would prefer a man that resembles a criminal, who appears to be backed by the rich and powerful, and no matter however much it is denied, is still revered in FG.

FG speak about openess, truth, transparency... what a joke, its just another of their failed promises, they have people associated with them that are just as corrupt as anyone in Fianna fail, the only difference is that they were not in power for years.

I would not be much of a supporter of FG but you can't blame them if the people of North Tipp elect this "non criminal"

RATM · 25-04-2012 10:19PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

The way I see it from living here and gauging peoples opinions is that the good outweighs the bad with Lowry in North Tipp. The reality is that he's the only man who gets anything done on a consistent basis, Coonan is a total non entity and has been a major disappointment to a lot of people.

This kinda sums up Irish politics. Lowry is seen in Tipp as a schiester but one who gets things done "schure he fixched the rhoad". Locally it is easy to see how he is the most electable candidate going.

But then on a national level his corruption & bribe taking affects the nation. Eg when Motorola realised the 2nd mobile license process was corrupt and weighted against them they were furious. As were another 10 or so consortiums. Motorola had wasted £15m bidding on the 2nd phone license and this didn't go down well in their American boardroom. Shortly thereafter they pulled out of Ireland with the loss of over 700 jobs. God knows how many others they would have added if they had of stayed, possibly over 1,000 in 10 years would be a safe bet. Lowrys and Denis O'Briens actions had a direct result of losing Ireland jobs and effecting our international standing as a place to do business.

Lowrys actions (and those of other corrupt politicans) send a message to multinationals that Ireland is corrupt and you might get burnt there. They decide to locate elsewhere as a result.

But schure he fixched the rhoad.

mikemac1 · 25-04-2012 10:56PM

RATM wrote: »

But schure he fixched the rhoad.

Nobody talks like that

You may it seem that Tipperary people are country bumpkins

djpbarry · 25-04-2012 11:29PM

Vizzy wrote: »

...you can't blame them if the people of North Tipp elect this "non criminal"

I can and will. Anyone who turns a blind eye to Lowry's shenanigans for the sake of local gains is pissing on democracy.

starviewadams · 25-04-2012 11:34PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjl8OIZijjY

ResearchWill · 25-04-2012 11:38PM

RATM wrote: »

This kinda sums up Irish politics. Lowry is seen in Tipp as a schiester but one who gets things done "schure he fixched the rhoad". Locally it is easy to see how he is the most electable candidate going.

But then on a national level his corruption & bribe taking affects the nation. Eg when Motorola realised the 2nd mobile license process was corrupt and weighted against them they were furious. As were another 10 or so consortiums. Motorola had wasted £15m bidding on the 2nd phone license and this didn't go down well in their American boardroom. Shortly thereafter they pulled out of Ireland with the loss of over 700 jobs. God knows how many others they would have added if they had of stayed, possibly over 1,000 in 10 years would be a safe bet. Lowrys and Denis O'Briens actions had a direct result of losing Ireland jobs and effecting our international standing as a place to do business.

Lowrys actions (and those of other corrupt politicans) send a message to multinationals that Ireland is corrupt and you might get burnt there. They decide to locate elsewhere as a result.

But schure he fixched the rhoad.

The granting if the 2nd license was 1995, Motorola shut up shop in Ireland in 2007.

john reilly · 26-04-2012 05:46AM

RATM wrote: »

This kinda sums up Irish politics. Lowry is seen in Tipp as a schiester but one who gets things done "schure he fixched the rhoad". Locally it is easy to see how he is the most electable candidate going.

But then on a national level his corruption & bribe taking affects the nation. Eg when Motorola realised the 2nd mobile license process was corrupt and weighted against them they were furious. As were another 10 or so consortiums. Motorola had wasted £15m bidding on the 2nd phone license and this didn't go down well in their American boardroom. Shortly thereafter they pulled out of Ireland with the loss of over 700 jobs. God knows how many others they would have added if they had of stayed, possibly over 1,000 in 10 years would be a safe bet. Lowrys and Denis O'Briens actions had a direct result of losing Ireland jobs and effecting our international standing as a place to do business.

Lowrys actions (and those of other corrupt politicans) send a message to multinationals that Ireland is corrupt and you might get burnt there. They decide to locate elsewhere as a result.

But schure he fixched the rhoad.

do you have some sort of speech impediment aswell as your pyhsic ability. how many jobs did denis o brien created. dont american multinationals pull out of ireland all the time. or does that not happen in the big smoke.

Cavehill Red · 26-04-2012 06:01AM

If it were categorically provable that Lowry had shot Michael Collins in the head then defiled his corpse, there would still be North Tipp people coming on this thread to suggest he's been maligned and throw whatabouteries around the place.
The fact is the man is a disgrace, and should long ago have been dismissed from Leinster House, in fact likely should have faced criminal charges. Instead, those who saw their own parochial purposes fulfilled by re-electing this bad egg did exactly that, again and again, and proudly they did it, just as those who supported the Flynns in Mayo, or the Healy-Raes in Kerry, are proud to do so.
I've often got the sense that these electorates feel that they are somehow expressing their independence of party politics, or showing 'Dublin' that they won't be dictated to, or some equally facile oul ****e peddled to them by the very gombeen seeking election from them.
If I had a TD I was appalled by, as people ought to be appalled by Lowry, I'd be telling everyone I knew until they were sick of hearing it that to re-elect such a cowboy is wrong.

mikemac1 · 26-04-2012 09:49AM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

or showing 'Dublin' that they won't be dictated to, or some equally facile oul ****e peddled to them by the very gombeen seeking election from them.

Or copying Dublin and wanting a Gregory deal of their own

Hold the government to ransom for Dublin Central and want things like five hundred corporation jobs for your constituents and you are a hero
Do it outside Dublin and you are a gombeen

Royal Legend · 26-04-2012 12:22PM

ResearchWill wrote: »

The granting if the 2nd license was 1995, Motorola shut up shop in Ireland in 2007.

The consortium that was involved worked for Motorola directly and I think had connections with Hutchinson telecom. I met some of the people involved and they were beyond angry as to what went on and felt that they were cheated

ResearchWill · 26-04-2012 12:48PM

Royal Legend wrote: »

The consortium that was involved worked for Motorola directly and I think had connections with Hutchinson telecom. I met some of the people involved and they were beyond angry as to what went on and felt that they were cheated

I totally agree, if I remember AT&T was also involved. I do not disagree that these companies got screwed over and I believe are contemplating suing the Irish state. My only point was that Motorola did not pull out of Ireland over this and the Irish job loses happened to be part of a global reduction.

charlie_says · 26-04-2012 03:10PM

I hope Lowry gets a criminal sentence and CAB go to town on his corruption gained assets big time.

Cavehill Red · 26-04-2012 04:30PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Or copying Dublin and wanting a Gregory deal of their own

Hold the government to ransom for Dublin Central and want things like five hundred corporation jobs for your constituents and you are a hero
Do it outside Dublin and you are a gombeen

And this is the happy horsecrap these gombeens peddle to you down the country. Are you really as thick as they think you are to buy it again and again?
As for Tony Gregory - it will suffice to say that Michael Lowry, nor the Flynns nor Healy-Raes neither - will ever add up to one Tony Gregory, and that's not because of the Gregory deal he struck, but because of the calibre and character of the man.

john reilly · 26-04-2012 09:03PM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

If it were categorically provable that Lowry had shot Michael Collins in the head then defiled his corpse, there would still be North Tipp people coming on this thread to suggest he's been maligned and throw whatabouteries around the place.
The fact is the man is a disgrace, and should long ago have been dismissed from Leinster House, in fact likely should have faced criminal charges. Instead, those who saw their own parochial purposes fulfilled by re-electing this bad egg did exactly that, again and again, and proudly they did it, just as those who supported the Flynns in Mayo, or the Healy-Raes in Kerry, are proud to do so.
I've often got the sense that these electorates feel that they are somehow expressing their independence of party politics, or showing 'Dublin' that they won't be dictated to, or some equally facile oul ****e peddled to them by the very gombeen seeking election from them.
If I had a TD I was appalled by, as people ought to be appalled by Lowry, I'd be telling everyone I knew until they were sick of hearing it that to re-elect such a cowboy is wrong.

i would vote for the man that shot micheal collins.

27-04-2012 11:50AM

john reilly wrote: »

i would vote for the man that shot micheal collins.

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danjo · 27-04-2012 04:49PM

You cannot blame the people of North Tipp for voting Lowry in. He has influence in the Dail and can get things done. The real fault lies with the Ministers who give oxygen to Lowry.
If he was ostracised by the Government then he would have no influence and eventually no votes.

Lowry A picture says a thousand Words

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