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Why is Primark called Penneys only in ireland?

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  • 25-04-2012 9:33pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭


    Why is Penneys called Primark outside Ireland?

    What's the deal with this? It's first store was in Dublin. Its headquaters are in Ireland. Yet outside of ireland it's called Primark. Where the hell did the name Primark come from?

    I've also just noticed that Penneys website is primark.ie

    This is bugging me now as nowhere online does it state the reason for the two different names. On their website they seem very proud of their Irish heritage. But all I can find is online with regards to the name is "Primark, (trades as Penneys in Ireland)".

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Probably because of JC penney in America - which has nothing to do with the penneys/primark brand here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    is it an Irish company?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,915 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Probably because of JC penney in America - which has nothing to do with the penneys/primark brand here.

    I was thinking on similar lines. They don't own the rights to the name outside Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭thenightrider


    Primarkis the brand of clothes and Penneys is the shop name


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 139


    Totally unrelated but a friend of a friend who was learning english (Not sure if this is an urban myth or not) thought the word penneys meant thanks. She heard Irish girls complimenting each other. "I like your top/dress/bag etc" "Aw, thanks, penneys"


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Jen Pigs Fly


    Its cheaper to call it pennies


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Why is Bulmers called Magners outside of Ireland?

    Because it just is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Probably because of JC penney in America - which has nothing to do with the penneys/primark brand here.
    Yup
    Change of name
    This move across the water necessitated a change of name as US retailer JC Penney had already trademarked the Penneys name in the UK. As a result ABF adopted the Primark trading name in the UK while retaining the Penneys brand in the Republic.
    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/fistful-of-penneys-1828737.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Typewriter


    Just looked this up and it would seem you are right!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/11/primark-founder-arthur-ryan-resigns
    In the late 1960s the late Garfield Weston, whose descendants are the controlling shareholders in Primark's parent company Associated British Foods (ABF), hired Ryan to set up a discount clothing chain. Weston gave Ryan a start-up fund of £50,000 and the first store opened in Dublin, where it is called Penneys. The name could not travel to Britain as the American firm JC Penney had the right to use the name, so Primark was born when it crossed the Irish Sea in 1973. It has since marched into Spain, Portugal, the Netherlands and Germany.

    So it's a Bulmers Vs Magners situation then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,294 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Whys Opel called Opel everywhere barr in the UK where its called Vauxhall.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭fuerte1976


    And a TJ V TK MAXX issue :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭fuerte1976


    Or you can ask the yanks why they call their arse their fanny :p:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    it should be called cent(s)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Burgerking and Hungry Jacks


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭milehip1


    leggo wrote: »
    Why is Bulmers called Magners outside of Ireland?

    Because it just is.

    it's cos Bulmers means 'vagina' in French street slang


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Whys Opel called Opel everywhere barr in the UK where its called Vauxhall.

    Aren't they called Starburst now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭demakinz


    That's what they pay the kids who make the clothes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭irish_stevo815




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Cool Mo D


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Whys Opel called Opel everywhere barr in the UK where its called Vauxhall.

    Because Vauxhall and Opel were separate subsidiary companies of GM. Vauxhall was taken over by GM in 1925, but it's only since the 1970's that Vauxhall and Opel lines of cars were merged. Ireland used to have Vauxhall cars, and was changed to Opel in 1982.

    And Bulmers is called Magners outside Ireland because there was already a different cider called Bulmers in the UK.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,379 ✭✭✭cml387


    We have HB here,Wall's in England and Ola in Portugal,but they are all the same.

    http://www.goodlogo.com/images/logos/ola_ice_cream_logo_2522.gif

    I saw Birds Eye in Europe is Kapitan Igloo.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 745 ✭✭✭csi vegas


    Walkers are called Lays on the continent. Two potential innuendos there :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    Why are you made change your name when speaking Irish?

    James != Seamus

    *not my name by the way :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭triple-M


    also why is lynx called axe in most other countries?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,760 ✭✭✭DaveNoCheese


    Also why does the sun shine? The moon glow and the grass grow??...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    139 wrote: »
    Totally unrelated but a friend of a friend who was learning english (Not sure if this is an urban myth or not) thought the word penneys meant thanks. She heard Irish girls complimenting each other. "I like your top/dress/bag etc" "Aw, thanks, penneys"
    ive heard that story a lot from different sources, just a myth


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Bulmers in a process used when making cider and as well as a company in Ireland calling their cider Bulmers, another company in the UK also called theirs by the same name too.

    So when the Irish Bulmers exported their product in the UK there was also another company using the same name so they changed to Magners.

    Now for ya!


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    Bullfrogs and Chazwozza's


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Why does Monday, come before Tuesday?
    Why do summers start in June?
    Why do winters come too soon?
    Why do people fall in love,
    When they're always breaking up?
    Oh why,
    Why do we love if love will die?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Why do birds suddenly appear
    every time you are near


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    F*cking Magnets, how do they work?


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