Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 ALL READ

Samich · 14-04-2012 05:47PM

Dubit10 wrote: »

Kenny Dalglish has taken us to two cup finals in his first full year in charge. How people want him replaced is utterly baffling. It takes time and money to build a good team and squad capable of making the top four. Let's not be Chelsea and give the man time. He's earned that right.

Cardiff got to the league final too you know?

Birmingham won it last year and got relegated, winning the trophy didn't mean Mcleish was a good manager or shouldn't have went. He's doing crap at villa too.

DB10 · 14-04-2012 05:48PM

Revolution9 wrote: »

Martin Kelly, Jay Spearing, Jonjo Shelvey, Jon Flanagan, Raheem Sterling and Jack Robinson have all featured this season.

That's more than half an XI.

Your talking b*llox.

I've mentioned Sterling and Spearing.

Sterling and Shelvey were stolen from London academies, indeed Sterling wants to leave Liverpool apparently for lack of match time. Down to Liverpools CC first team policy they will lose him.

The rest aren't good enough for a top half side.

Samich · 14-04-2012 05:49PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

If you're happier to finish 4th than win trophies then you're doing it wrong imo.

Also just to add, last year after they went into a downward spiral brum fans said they'd give up the League Cup for PL survival.

And let's not forget, Liverpool haven't won the final yet :pac:

plasmaguy · 14-04-2012 05:49PM

Samich wrote: »

You're wrong.

The league is where it's at.

Anyone would tell you that?

Only someone doing crap in the league and good in the cup would tell you different :rolleyes:

I'd say most pool fans and indeed arsenal, spurs, newcastle, everton fans would beg to differ.

Does anyone remember anything of note from Arsenals 2006/7 season or any season since?

Most league campaigns are boring, playing the likes of stoke, fulham, wolves so on, week in week out, often just going through the motions.

Everyone remembers a day out at wembly or winning a trophey.

What wants to remember a day out playing some bottom of the table club in the middle of january?

I hate when people try to reduce football to stats and league table positions and points and goals for and against and all that, and strip away all the excitment of the sport, and indeed analyse it too much.

Anyone who gets depressed about their sides position in the table needs to take a good long hard look at themselves. Far far more important things in the world to worry about.

El Inho · 14-04-2012 05:50PM

Samich wrote: »

You're wrong.

The league is where it's at.

Anyone would tell you that?

Only someone doing crap in the league and good in the cup would tell you different :rolleyes:

while the league is a clear priority, I think alot of the liverpool hate club tend to undermine the cups importance....

like ive heard a few united supporters go so far as to say 'its only the fa cup'...

now im irish, and so dont have an emotional bond to the english fa...but the fa cup is huge, and should we win it, that commands respect.

also the carling cup, while considered to be a mickey mouse cup, its a cup that i didnt see alot of other clubs winning this year, and beating serious clubs to do that.

while the league is more important, i think it must be considered that all cups take effort and need class on a certain level. just because lfc are doing well in it, doesnt mean it doesnt mean anything.

rossie1977 · 14-04-2012 05:51PM

its tough to win any knockout trophy, just ask man city and man utd fans who thought their clubs would walk this years europa league

Paul Tergat · 14-04-2012 05:51PM

plasmaguy wrote: »

Anyone who gets depressed about their sides position in the table needs to take a good long hard look at themselves. Far far more important things in the world to worry about.

Meh. Not to drag this OT but I think maybe football just means more to others than it does to you?

DB10 · 14-04-2012 05:51PM

Samich wrote: »

Also just to add, last year after they went into a downward spiral brum fans said they'd give up the League Cup for PL survival.

And let's not forget, Liverpool haven't won the final yet :pac:

Agreed fully.

DB10 · 14-04-2012 05:52PM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Meh. Not to drag this OT but I think maybe football just means more to others than it does to you?

Its hard to find Liverpool fans normally talking about football, but when they win a few matches. They're everywhere...:pac:

Cyrus · 14-04-2012 05:53PM

DB10 wrote: »

Revolution9 wrote: »

Martin Kelly, Jay Spearing, Jonjo Shelvey, Jon Flanagan, Raheem Sterling and Jack Robinson have all featured this season.

That's more than half an XI.

Your talking b*llox.

I've mentioned Sterling and Spearing.

Sterling and Shelvey were stolen from London academies, indeed Sterling wants to leave Liverpool apparently for lack of match time. Down to Liverpools CC first team policy they will lose him.

The rest aren't good enough for a top half side.

Martin Kelly definitely is and I can't see how you can make a judgement on Robinson and Flanagan yet, you are baiting plain and simple,

Look at the teams that have won the league cup over the past 10 years, brum were the exception a top 6 team normally wins it.

Also where I'd the world class talent united, Chelsea and arsenal have brought through from their own academies ?

Will I Amnt · 14-04-2012 05:53PM

plasmaguy wrote: »

I hate when people try to reduce football to stats and league table positions and points and goals for and against and all that, and strip away all the excitment of the sport, and indeed analyse it too much.

Yea,let's get rid of all that crap and just play for the fun of it.We can all be top of the league :rolleyes:
Just when you think you've seen it all in this forum you get a gem like that

Turtyturd · 14-04-2012 05:54PM

Samich wrote: »

Also just to add, last year after they went into a downward spiral brum fans said they'd give up the League Cup for PL survival.

And let's not forget, Liverpool haven't won the final yet :pac:

The final was weeks ago.

LuckyLloyd · 14-04-2012 05:54PM

DB10 wrote: »

This thread is about Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool, there is a separate thread for Wenger and Arsenal.

You seem awfully perturbed that Liverpool prevailed today, mad even. Why are you so mad?

14-04-2012 05:55PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

You seem awfully perturbed that Liverpool prevailed today, mad even. Why are you so mad?

It's funny to watch.

He probably had a load of money on the toffees :pac::pac:

The_Kew_Tour · 14-04-2012 05:58PM

Fair play to Liverpool today.

Love them or hate them the history they have is magnificent and to be in 2 cup finals with some of the shambles they have produced this season is still good going.

Would not back against them no matter who they meet in final.

redzerdrog · 14-04-2012 05:58PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

He probably had a load of money on the toffees :pac::pac:

Highly doubtfull

You have to be 18 to gamble;)

G.K. · 14-04-2012 06:00PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

what young players have come through the ranks at chelsea recently?? or at utd, cleverly and wellbeck are the first players to come through at utd for years and they have barely 20 games played

all top clubs should hang their heads in shame given how poor they ALL have been bringing through talent this past 10 years, gone are the days when man utd rolled the likes of beckham, nevilles, scholes off the line or liverpool had fowler, mcmanaman, redknapp, gerrard, owen

Fabio Borini, Gokhan Tore, Miroslav Stoch, Nemanja Matic have all left Chelsea in the last 2 years after coming through, and all are among the highly rated young players in Europe, and 1st choice for their clubs. There's Jack Cork, Franco Di Santo and Michael Mancienne too.

Glico Man · 14-04-2012 06:03PM

G.K. wrote: »

Fabio Borini, Gokhan Tore, Miroslav Stoch, Nemanja Matic have all left Chelsea in the last 2 years after coming through, and all are among the highly rated young players in Europe, and 1st choice for their clubs. There's Jack Cork, Franco Di Santo and Michael Mancienne too.

They weren't considered good enough for the Chelsea first team though, and left because they couldn't get game time. Stagnation would've set in by now if they stayed at Chelsea unless they were to go on loan.

killwill · 14-04-2012 06:04PM

Cyrus wrote: »

Martin Kelly definitely is and I can't see how you can make a judgement on Robinson and Flanagan yet, you are baiting plain and simple,

Look at the teams that have won the league cup over the past 10 years, brum were the exception a top 6 team normally wins it.

Also where I'd the world class talent united, Chelsea and arsenal have brought through from their own academies ?

Well at Arsenal you just have to look at their first team in fairness and you will see Ramsey, Wilshere, Walcott. I could be wrong but are they not ex-Arsenal youth Academy players?

At United right now in the first team you have Cleverley and Wellbeck as the most obvious with alot more coming through in the next year or two. They may not make it at United but they will make it big.

G.K. · 14-04-2012 06:05PM

aaronh007 wrote: »

They weren't considered good enough for the Chelsea first team though, and left because they couldn't get game time. Stagnation would've set in by now if they stayed at Chelsea unless they were to go on loan.

I must have missed the point of the guy I quoted.

Glico Man · 14-04-2012 06:05PM

killwill wrote: »

Well at Arsenal you just have to look at their first team in fairness and you will see Ramsey, Wilshere, Walcott. I could be wrong but are they not ex-Arsenal youth Academy players?

At United right now in the first team you have Cleverley and Wellbeck as the most obvious with alot more coming through in the next year or two. They may not make it at United but they will make it big.

Wilshere is yes, but Walcott and Ramsey came from Southampton and Cardiff respectively.

killwill · 14-04-2012 06:05PM

aaronh007 wrote: »

They weren't considered good enough for the Chelsea first team though, and left because they couldn't get game time. Stagnation would've set in by now if they stayed at Chelsea unless they were to go on loan.

That was not the question asked though in fairness. It was about world class youth academy players.

killwill · 14-04-2012 06:06PM

aaronh007 wrote: »

Wilshere is yes, but Walcott and Ramsey came from Southampton and Cardiff respectively.

What age did they sign with Arsenal at? I remember United nearly signing Ramsey actually but he snubbed us even though he was a United fan!!!

redzerdrog · 14-04-2012 06:08PM

killwill wrote: »

What age did they sign with Arsenal at? I remember United nearly signing Ramsey actually but he snubbed us even though he was a United fan!!!

Just a guess but I would be suprised if eaither ever played youth team football for Arsenal.

But as i said its just a guess.

Glico Man · 14-04-2012 06:08PM

G.K. wrote: »

I must have missed the point of the guy I quoted.

Or maybe I did

In fairness, he was talking about first team players by mentioning Cleverley and Welbeck currently in Utds first team picture whilst going on to mention the likes of Scholes, Beckam, Fowler etc.

Could also mean that the lack of the likes of home grown first team players from the youth set up.

Glico Man · 14-04-2012 06:11PM

killwill wrote: »

What age did they sign with Arsenal at? I remember United nearly signing Ramsey actually but he snubbed us even though he was a United fan!!!

Both were 16/17 iirc, and had been playing first team football for both of their respective clubs

killwill wrote: »

That was not the question asked though in fairness. It was about world class youth academy players.

I took the point incorrectly, apologies.

Mr Alan · 14-04-2012 06:13PM

killwill wrote: »

What age did they sign with Arsenal at? I remember United nearly signing Ramsey actually but he snubbed us even though he was a United fan!!!

They were both 18 afaik & went straight into the first team squad.

And they signed for a combined £17m or so!

killwill · 14-04-2012 06:15PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

They were both 18 afaik & went straight into the first team squad.

And they signed for a combined £17m or so!

Wow!!! See there is no value in the market after all!!!

Al Capwned · 14-04-2012 06:46PM

monkey9 wrote: »

Yes, the obsessives have made that quite clear!!

monkey9 wrote: »

The Obsessed!! There's a quality horror movie in there somewhere!!!

monkey9 wrote: »

If the Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs want so much to hear what Kenny has to say about the officals, send him a tweet.

monkey9 wrote: »

This is the second thread yet on the same subject!! Following the third thread on the Liverpool season thread in general!! Interesting!!!

You have to almost respect the Obsessives!!!!

I am pie wrote: »

Yawn. Another Liverpool obsessed Manc super fan. Take a number and get in line.

Seriously lads, give it a rest!

DB10 · 14-04-2012 07:02PM

alproctor wrote: »

Seriously lads, give it a rest!

Exactly my point, all victim mentality from certain posters. It comes from the top , the manager who is playing Liverpool fans like chumps.

Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 *ALL READ*

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Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 ALL READ